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juliebennie (256 ) View Listings
juliebennie
(1 of 20)
bidding
Sep 13, 2011 04:45 PM
Hi all people in the know. I bid on 7 items today all of which had high postage costs for what they were. But as I knew I was going to the area where bids are I thought I would just collect while there. I sent the lady a message saying i was comind down and could I collect. I also thought i would offer some frienly advice saying the reason she didnt get many bids was because of high postage costs. There was no mention at all of combined post or pickup in any of the listings. She wrote me back saying the reason she did that was in case she didnt get much on the bids. She told me to retract the bids if i want to but cant as they are finished. I dont want to go ahead with the purchases. I have excellent feedback thus this far and have not had one problem with any of my bids. Am i wrong . How do i get out of these bids. Any advice would be greatly appreciated in advance.
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juliebennie (256 ) View Listings
juliebennie
(1 of 20)
bidding
Sep 13, 2011 04:45 PM
Hi all people in the know. I bid on 7 items today all of which had high postage costs for what they were. But as I knew I was going to the area where bids are I thought I would just collect while there. I sent the lady a message saying i was comind down and could I collect. I also thought i would offer some frienly advice saying the reason she didnt get many bids was because of high postage costs. There was no mention at all of combined post or pickup in any of the listings. She wrote me back saying the reason she did that was in case she didnt get much on the bids. She told me to retract the bids if i want to but cant as they are finished. I dont want to go ahead with the purchases. I have excellent feedback thus this far and have not had one problem with any of my bids. Am i wrong . How do i get out of these bids. Any advice would be greatly appreciated in advance.
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colkym (Private) View Listings
colkym
 
(2 of 20)
bidding
Sep 13, 2011 04:50 PM
SO is this lady not letting you pick up?

If it wasnt offered on the listing you are not entitled to it. You should have asked prior to bidding if pick up was ok. You cannot retract bids now, and personally I think you should just pay and have it sent to you, but the fact remains the seller sounds ameniable to a mutual cancellation. This has to be initiated by the seller.


Some people are like clouds....

When they buzz off its' a beautiful day!

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*bad*angel* (Private) View Listings
*bad*angel*
 
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bidding
Sep 13, 2011 05:03 PM
You are the one in the wrong here. Why would you bid if you were not happy with the postage prices. You NEVER assume pick-up is ok, most sellers wont allow it and certainly do not have to.

The seller has indicated to retract your bids, so do that please so you dont stuff up their listings. You'll have to pick a lie as to why you're retracting, since you dont have a valid reason, but as the seller suggested this I think you can assume they wont report you.

NEVER bid unless you agree fully with all prices shown on a listing.


Integrity is priceless.
“I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating”. Sophocles

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*bad*angel* (Private) View Listings
*bad*angel*
 
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bidding
Sep 13, 2011 05:05 PM
Oops sorry, I read that your post wrongly - the listings are finished so you cant retract.

You will have to request a mutual cancellation which the seller must initiate this at their end. You could also offer to pay their fees.


Integrity is priceless.
“I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating”. Sophocles

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gem*addiction (7723 ) View Listings
gem*addiction
 
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bidding
Sep 13, 2011 06:50 PM
If the seller wont agree to a mutual cancellation you will have to pay for the items AND the postage or risk 7 unpaid item disputes.

You have no right to expect to be able to pick up, even if you were in the same street.

Many sellers do not want strangers coming to their homes, or suddenly find they have new 'friends' that drop in.

Not saying that this is the case with you, but there are many members that are on ebay for the 'social' aspect.

I have been on the receiving end of an unwanted visitor myself when my step son sold a set of wheels and gave the buyer the address without telling me, I found a stranger in my back yard, and looking in our shed!

And sorry to be blunt but I dont understand why you would be offering friendly advice on others listings, when yours were a mess only a few weeks ago.

You need alot of experience on ebay before you qualify to criticise others listings.


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shared5254 (635 ) View Listings
shared5254
 
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bidding
Sep 14, 2011 06:58 AM
" I have excellent feedback

Of course you do, of your 163 , only 6 are for selling so all others are as a buyer, and we all know they can only be positives anyway.

Feedback scores (as a buyer) are basically pointless and irrelevant, and even more so in this case where they have nothing to do with pick up being permitted or not.

What you should do now is simply pay the amounts you owe to the seller. (including postage)

Although it has been suggested you request a mutual cancellation from the seller, I find that would be extremely unfair on the seller.

After all no one forced you to bid, and no one would have ever told you that you could simply expect to pick up because you were "going to the area where bids are"

All errors are yours and as such the seller should not now be out of pocket.

If the seller was kind enough to send you a mutual cancellation, you should at the very least offer to pay the sellers fees for each of the transactions involved, and if you paid them via Paypal, add a couple of extra dollars to cover Paypal fees as well.
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*bad*angel* (Private) View Listings
*bad*angel*
 
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bidding
Sep 14, 2011 12:43 PM
Ok here are my two responses on this thread:

You are the one in the wrong here. Why would you bid if you were not happy with the postage prices. You NEVER assume pick-up is ok, most sellers wont allow it and certainly do not have to.

The seller has indicated to retract your bids, so do that please so you dont stuff up their listings. You'll have to pick a lie as to why you're retracting, since you dont have a valid reason, but as the seller suggested this I think you can assume they wont report you.

NEVER bid unless you agree fully with all prices shown on a listing.

and

Oops sorry, I read that your post wrongly - the listings are finished so you cant retract.

You will have to request a mutual cancellation which the seller must initiate this at their end. You could also offer to pay their fees

Not one "mean" word. Just facts. Without frills and flowers.

Karen you really do need to get over this vendetta you have. If you need assistance finding personal help I can get you some that will assist with your issues. Please contact me off the boards.


Integrity is priceless.
“I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating”. Sophocles

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gem*addiction (7723 ) View Listings
gem*addiction
 
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bidding
Sep 14, 2011 12:55 PM
Waves to Karen :)

Bored today Hun?


Today might be the day that I get mistaken for some-one important - Hyacinth Bucket

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kazzoo17 (144 ) View Listings
kazzoo17
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bidding
Sep 14, 2011 01:18 PM
but, as you see, at this point 6 people agree with me.

and i think we can all guess who the 6 are who voted 'unhelpful'...funny that, huh?
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queenfish43 (325 ) View Listings
queenfish43
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Re: bidding
Dec 18, 2011 11:21 AM

Hi there,


 


As a seller on eBay I just wanted to point out that 'postage' costs sometimes include not only the stamp but the wrapping, box, driving to the post office, time spent wrapping and posting, etc etc. Living in a regional area my post office is quite a trip so I charge for it (why not I'm not selling for love only I've gotta eat!). So please consider this and don't complain about the cost after bidding please.


 


On the other hand I can say that even after bidding you may be able to opt out of completing the purchase by asking the seller to mutually withraw from the sale. If they agree they still have to set up a dispute to which you can both reply that you have mutually agreed not to go ahead with the purchase (then the seller can get the fees back that they paid for to advertise the goods, plus the final valuation fee they must pay on every good sold) These are other costs that the seller must pay also!


 


Good luck


 

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silversterio2 (Private) View Listings
silversterio2
 
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Re: bidding
Dec 18, 2011 05:55 PM

"If they agree they still have to set up a dispute to which you can both reply that you have mutually agreed not to go ahead with the purchase (then the seller can get the fees back that they paid for to advertise the goods, plus the final valuation fee they must pay on every good sold)"


 


Sorry queenfish43 but that information is not correct.


 


A listing may have been free to list or it may be eligible for an insertion fee credit ( just the insertion fee, no upgrades ) when relisted and if it sells  on a first relist,  but when a Seller opens a Cancel a Transaction Case / Mutual Cancellation and the buyer agrees to it, only the final value fee is refunded to the Seller, NOT the listing fees.


 
*kazumi* (670 ) View Listings
*kazumi*
 
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Re: bidding
Dec 19, 2011 07:18 PM

:^O   Another ZOMBIE thread   :_|

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levibluey (115 ) View Listings
levibluey
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Re: bidding
Feb 7, 2012 02:16 PM

Hi I am Deaf, that happen I ask someone a question that I want to know how many carat diamond ring and they said Not sure but not know. Well my girlfriend not like this white gold but I just thought so she like yellow gold ring that I was Mistake but I should not click bid anyway! I told them I said I want to cancel please and they have not answer me back this why, Someone send me said unpaid make me must paid and put me record on my account for suspended by on 9 feb so I have not been before charge me on fee but I did not know about it make me worry! Next time I won't bid again make me realise and make me pay for that.
lp3021 (160 ) View Listings
lp3021
(14 of 20)
Re: bidding
Feb 11, 2012 09:06 AM

when you bid on something you have to be sure if you want to question the postage do so prior to your bid otherwise you are wasting yours and the sellers time
fal-com-auto (301 ) View Listings
fal-com-auto
(15 of 20)
Re: bidding
Mar 27, 2012 07:09 PM

i get this all the time bidders are always asking to come and pick up items when i have stated there is no local pickup, and then i get bidders who dont have paypal accounts and as it the only form of payment i accept they start with the just send me your banking details, it is quite simple read the advert and stop complaining about the postage costs and spare a thought for the ever increasing costs of postage, packing materials and petrol to get the item to the post office as i am sure all sellers on ebay do not  live next door to a post office and if you think about it there is a self security issue when you consider who has your private address so think about all these things before you start trying to change the advertisers terms of postage and payment as i am sure you would not like a perfect stranger telling you what to do.
straybooksoz (583 ) View Listings
straybooksoz
 
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Re: bidding
Mar 28, 2012 12:21 AM

Apart from the fact that for a seller Bank Deposit is the way to go, why do you try to alienate potential buyers? Why do you not offer Paypal, given that you MUST offer a safe payment method. The others are Paymate (for mug buyers) or a merchant credit card facility.


Do you want to sell or do you want to annoy potential buyers? And get non-performing seller strikes?


Call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye - Don Henley
nothingbutthebest_200.. (915 ) View Listings
nothingbutthebest_200..
(17 of 20)
Re: bidding
Apr 12, 2012 08:44 AM

You are wrong by not asking questions first, before bidding.  Some people (inc me) do not like strangers coming to their home to pickup goods plus it's an inconvenience, they need to hang around waiting for people who often dont turn up on time or not at all.  You should have asked 'do you combine postage, or allow pickup', no response then no bids from you.  Hope it worked out ok for you.


 


But on the other hand it's wrong for her to increase postage to cover the costs of her goods.


 


 


 
purple1708 (2084 ) View Listings
purple1708
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Re: bidding
May 8, 2012 11:49 PM

Unfortunately you should laways try to sort out the postage caost of you think they are to high before biding, once you bid and win you have agreed to pay the costs listed in the auction (unless you have contacted the buyer and agreed to pick up or a cheaper postage method)

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karlazkewl (65 ) View Listings
karlazkewl
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Re:bidding
Feb 3, 2013 10:52 AM

This in the official Ebay policy:


 


"Sellers must charge only actual postage and actual packaging costs (or less) in order to be in compliance with this policy...


 


• Actual Postage cost: This must be limited to the actual cost (i.e. postage) for posting the item.


• Packaging cost: This must be limited to the actual cost of packaging materials used for the item, such as bubble wrap, tape, box and mailing label and must not be excessive or unnecessary.


• Handling cost: This must be limited to the reasonable costs for selecting and preparing the item for shipping and must not be excessive or unnecessary."


 


Sellers are NOT allowed to tack on extra postage costs just to boost up their sale price... which, by their own admission, is what the seller has done in the O.P's case.


 

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ozshopnsave (92 ) View Listings
ozshopnsave
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Re:bidding
May 6, 2013 04:13 PM

I have been on the receiving end of a buyer who bid then complained about the postage costs, even though I had set up the postage as calculated. I replied they could easily have calculated the postage cost for their address before bidding, but since he was in another country, I offered to agree to mutual cancellation of the transaction. BUT after I explained to him that the postage I charged was exactly as calculated by the post office, he happily agreed to pay it, even though the postage cost him more than the item.


 


Next time, you should always satisfy your curiosity as to the postage or any other costs PRIOR to bidding. It's unfair for sellers to incur listing and other fees as a result of a buyer's negligence. It is also a waste of the seller's and other potential bidders' time to have to see the item(s) re-listed again.


 

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