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Posting ID's
Dec 31, 2011 11:14 AM

Can we have a locked post or a note in the usage policy made  to explain/suggest  posting ID's please.

 

Can't find anything in relation to it,(it was a locked post on one of the old boards).

 

There is some angst on some of the boards in regards to them not believing that a  posting ID's is to protect the main selling ID's.

 

A number are perceiving that the posting ID's are there to disrupt the boards,(which is not the case).

 

It would then be easy to show members the  locked post or a note of it in the usage policy explaining posting ID's.

 

 


Hope you have a happy,healthy and prosperous life and may all your dreams come true, Corny..

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Re: Posting ID's
Dec 31, 2011 12:12 PM

Yes, can we please.

 

It gets so boring having to explain over and over again that having a posting ID, or one that feedback is private, is not to deceive.

 

Though we know that some people start new ID's just to cause trouble but it's not the norm.

(2 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 4, 2012 10:33 PM

Yes please, I agree with this request.

 

No matter how many of us try and explain that Privae feedback and posting IDs are all above board we still get abused and accused of being ebay "plants" and trouble makers.

(3 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 4, 2012 10:45 PM

I'll 2nd,3rd & 4th that-DEFINITELY needs to be a pinned post by Ebay re posting ids on ALL boards.


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(4 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 01:13 AM

I'd like to hear the "policy" straight from an eBay pink.

 

The explanations by the very few regular posters who use private posting IDs compared to the most who don't, unfortunately just don't stand up to the same scrunity that the exact same private ID posters expect and challenge other posters on - & some posters keep changing their reasons why they post with private ID, not all, just a couple.

 

I think it would be good for the many to put it to rest.;\

 

 

 

 

 

(5 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 03:45 AM

I'd like to hear the "policy" straight from an eBay pink.

 

The explanations by the very few regular posters who use private posting IDs compared to the most who don't, unfortunately just don't stand up to the same scrunity that the exact same private ID posters expect and challenge other posters on - & some posters keep changing their reasons why they post with private ID, not all, just a couple.

 

I think it would be good for the many to put it to rest.;\

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think I might agree with you however I am not quite sure what you are saying.

 

I keep my spendng history private because I don't like that the amount of money spent on an item is there for all to see but I do make it public if I sell something on this ID but as soon as the auction finishes I make if private again.

 

Therefore I don't open myself up to the same scrutiny that I expect others to when they come here asking for help BUT I am not seeking help with a problem so there is a big difference.

 

Making ones feedback private after some posters comment on the way a person deals with feedback is a lot different to me wanting financial privacy.

(6 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 06:59 AM

is it just me or does it appear that ......

 

some posters would prefer ebay institute a NEW policy to suit their old board posting habits rather than those same posters changing their habits to conform to the board policies already in place and trusting ebays buyer vetting systems?

 

Can anybody find any information regarding posting IDs other than the fact that it is against policy to use multiple posting IDs to create unrest on the discussion boards????

 

(I should add that I have learned from ebays actions regarding listing policies that whether the interference is deliberate or unsolicited is inconsequential)

 

 

I wondered how any "Anon" with a posting ID could think that others would give consideration to their comments or advice on a site that uses a disjointed feedback system (READ site credibility) to instil trust between strangers with the "helper" (stranger) hiding their own feedback (site credibility) ????????.

 

 

To top it off surly "Anon" is then backed up by a troupe of surlier"Anons"...... and a cupla REAL ids....which leaves the new poster.........CONFUSED.

 

.... a little searching shows the same circus perrformance occuring time and time again generally to the OPs detriment.


TELL ME AND I WILL FORGET, SHOW ME AND I MAY REMEMBER,, INVOLVE ME AND I WILL UNDERSTAND Confucius 450bc

(7 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 07:56 AM

some posters would prefer ebay institute a NEW policy to suit their old board posting habits rather than those same posters changing their habits to conform to the board policies already in place and trusting ebays buyer vetting systems?

 

As explained,the use of a posting ID is not a NEW policy,it was a pinned thread on the discussion boards.

 

On the early boards a member would get atacked verbally and often at times their ID  was also attacked,(members would buy and neg the account).

 

It was eBays suggestion that members create a posting ID to protect their main ID.

 

Can anybody find any information regarding posting IDs other than the fact that it is against policy to use multiple posting IDs to create unrest on the discussion boards????

 

That policy was brought into place to try and stop the harrasement of members by a number of posters who where very disruptive.

 

They would create numerous ID's just to harrass and bait members.


Hope you have a happy,healthy and prosperous life and may all your dreams come true, Corny..

(8 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 09:13 AM

 

Why not have a go at a posting ID guide and give ebay some ideas?

 

Personally, I think that any policy that relates to the recommendation of the use of a posting id because of the possiblity of breaches of the user agreement and ebays ability or inability to control it is counterproductive to ebay's integrity in general and then by inference in eliciting trust between members.

 

 

My attempt............... below

 

 

Using posting IDs

Dear ebay community forum user. Ebay has designated that the possibility of member auction/sale interference outweighs the premise of positive user id credibility (and their system's ability to provide and maintain that credibilty) and that it is beyond their control (and yours) to protect legitimate IDs against these actions.

 

 

 Ebay has therefore designated that forum users should consider everybody use a posting ID so that all ebay members do not get the chance to breach their user agreement with ebay by maliciously  buying another ebay user IDs advertised items with the express purpose of denigrating anothers feedback/online reputation.

 

 

The fact that it would be impossible for members to gain real help by allowing other members access or details of their selling or buying accounts and feedback therein is unfortunate.

 

 

Indeed if forum and member id policies were both impeccably monitored and policed then there would be no need for posting IDs but please do not consider this as an admission that ebay cannot supply the aforestated

 

Nup...doesn't read great that one???


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(9 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 09:42 AM

 

I wondered how any "Anon" with a posting ID could think that others would give consideration to their comments or advice on a site that uses a disjointed feedback system (READ site credibility) to instil trust between strangers with the "helper" (stranger) hiding their own feedback (site credibility) ????????.

 

 

To top it off surly "Anon" is then backed up by a troupe of surlier"Anons"...... and a cupla REAL ids....which leaves the new poster.........CONFUSED.

 

.... a little searching shows the same circus perrformance occuring time and time again generally to the OPs detriment.

 

Yup ... have to agree with Viewmont on this one, there seems to be a definite pattern of behaviours that are associated with private posting ID crew members.

 

As to the comment above regarding keeping financial transactions private ?? This could be simply resolved by getting a "buying presents for others" or the like buying ID, instead. ;)

 

 

 

 

(10 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 09:52 AM

As explained,the use of a posting ID is not a NEW policy,it was a pinned thread on the discussion boards.

 

On the early boards a member would get atacked verbally and often at times their ID  was also attacked,(members would buy and neg the account).

 

It was eBays suggestion that members create a posting ID to protect their main ID.

 

How many years ago was this Taz?  and where is the fabled thread now.  I do think it is very unfair to all ebayers that there a few who can be  "in the know" about a policy and others don't. Is a pinned discussion board thread and a suggestion, a policy in any case?

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 05:38 PM

 

I wondered how any "Anon" with a posting ID could think that others would give consideration to their comments or advice on a site that uses a disjointed feedback system (READ site credibility) to instil trust between strangers with the "helper" (stranger) hiding their own feedback (site credibility) ????????.

 

 

To top it off surly "Anon" is then backed up by a troupe of surlier"Anons"...... and a cupla REAL ids....which leaves the new poster.........CONFUSED.

 

.... a little searching shows the same circus perrformance occuring time and time again generally to the OPs detriment.

 

Yup ... have to agree with Viewmont on this one, there seems to be a definite pattern of behaviours that are associated with private posting ID crew members.

 

As to the comment above regarding keeping financial transactions private ?? This could be simply resolved by getting a "buying presents for others" or the like buying ID, instead. ;)

 

 

 

 

It sounds like a good idea in theory but I want less IDs not more. I have closed down a post only ID because I couldn't be bothered buying 10 items for feedback. My selling ID is no longer required so am in the process of getting rid of it, 180 day delay. My buying ID is no longer required because I don't buy anything to use in making items to sell. Hopefully by mid year this will be my only ID and I don't want others to see how much I spend on an item or how many items I have purchased.
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Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 06:02 PM

go-tazz, you wrote, "There is some angst on some of the boards in regards to them not believing that a  posting ID's is to protect the main selling ID's."

 

Well, that would be because there have always been so many regular posters who have little to no feedback pretending to be hugely experienced sellers even when the content of their posts is so erroneous that it proves otherwise.

 

Maybe people here just aren't quite so gullible anymore.

 

 

Posting IDs should be treated as a myth. While they do exist, usually a low-feedback ID merely indicates that the poster is inexperienced. I've always felt a little embarassed for posters with little feedback who indignantly proclaim that they know what they're talking about because they're really a powerseller or something. Poor sods. They are to be pitied, not encouraged.

 

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Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 06:54 PM

As for Private feedback, there are many good reasons to make your feedback private. For example, you may not want your spouse to see that you've bought them a present. When other posters get confused and think there's something sinister going on, just proudly tell them that the only reason people make their feedback private is that they're hiding something.

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Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 07:18 PM

Posting IDs should be treated as a myth. While they do exist, usually a low-feedback ID merely indicates that the poster is inexperienced.

 

And that's all anyone will see, low feedback,(so they will come to that conclussion that they are inexperienced).

 

I wouldn't worry,since they put the new boards in place that is what it does look like as there is no number of posts stated anymore,:O

 

 

Which is not the case as there are a number of low feedback members out there do have a lot of experience,(when you know their selling ID),:-D

 

My other ID has low feedback,:-D

 

Unfortunately it will also means a lot of experienced and helpful members will simply not help as their advice could be ignored,X-(


Hope you have a happy,healthy and prosperous life and may all your dreams come true, Corny..

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Re: Posting ID's
Jan 5, 2012 07:37 PM

So how many feedback do you need to be considered as a experienced seller?


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Re: Posting ID's
Jan 6, 2012 06:03 AM

Why cannot the members that use posting IDs explain the reasons they use them, what they are actually afraid of .... why not help Ebay write the "policy" you yearn for so much???

 

 

I had a crack, pleeeease have a go..... there are zillions of postings ids......surely you did not all just

 

FOLLOW THE LEADER

 

There must be some reasons that those ids decided to use a posting ID????

 

 

Please No "the bad old days" stories

 

...... Once many thought the Earth was flat...... only maniacs and the foolhardy sailed out of the sight of land for fear that they would sail off the edge......however now we know different.

 

Show me the plethora of auction bombing, ID interference and general ebay forum thuggery that occurs to the ever burgeoning amount of REAL posting IDs. 

 

Convince me that  a posting ID is really important to selling account security(thats why the posting ids do it ....obviously??? I guess????, then in the same breath cheerfully inform me that if I really want help I will have to disclose my selling id to all and sundry therefore opening that account to the possible account security breaches that your posting ID and policy cocoons you from.......

 

Hellloooooo???????


TELL ME AND I WILL FORGET, SHOW ME AND I MAY REMEMBER,, INVOLVE ME AND I WILL UNDERSTAND Confucius 450bc

(17 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 6, 2012 06:29 AM

Actually viewpoint, we had a member recently but on the old boards who did exactly that. They bought an item from a poster just to leave vicious and damaging feedback.  The seller had come into AAM just to ask for help and he used his normal selling and buying ID.The person who was a regular decided to try and stuff up his auctions because she didn't like the OP and his attitude to the answers.

 

That is one example, so it has nothing to do with the 'old days'

 

I keep my feedback private because it is simply nobody else's business what I buy, what I have bought in the past, and what I plan on buying.

 

Posting ID's: people shouldn't have a problem with those that have them and use them responsibly.

 

 

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Re: Posting ID's
Jan 6, 2012 06:44 AM

Cindy I have been posting with this SELLING ID since the round table days

 

I GENERALLY DO NOT MINCE WORDS.

 

I BUY ON ANOTHER ID AND HAVE OTHER SELLING IDS

 

I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED AUCTION BOMBING

 

YOU WROTE 

 

"The person who was a regular".... are they still a regular??? or have they tasted ebays "big stick"

 

How could the poster who required help on their selling account and came to AAM for the same have gottem the help without revealing their selling ID???

 

How did a posting ID help anybody in the situation you used as an example except the person doing the "auction stuff up nonsense"

 

 

I contend that if there were no posting ids then posters would be a lot more courteous and there would be

 

a lot more brain engaging pre mouth opening rather than foot removal post comment


TELL ME AND I WILL FORGET, SHOW ME AND I MAY REMEMBER,, INVOLVE ME AND I WILL UNDERSTAND Confucius 450bc

(19 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 6, 2012 07:00 AM

 

I keep my feedback private because it is simply nobody else's business what I buy, what I have bought in the past, and what I plan on buying.

 

 

 

if you would like to give people advice on these boards or comment on theor situation and you expect them to heed your advice or at least consider it then you will need to gain their trust. How can you expect to instill trust and experience when you hide the evidence.

 

IMO

You are expecting a little too much, I beleieve if blind faith is your No1 modus operandi in gaining trust or respect from other posters.

 

 

 


TELL ME AND I WILL FORGET, SHOW ME AND I MAY REMEMBER,, INVOLVE ME AND I WILL UNDERSTAND Confucius 450bc

(20 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 6, 2012 07:32 AM

Viewpoint,I don't really give too much advice, certainly not professional, and I only reply as an experienced buyer on what I like or don't like from sellers. Other more professional ebayers deal with selling questions.

 

But I really believe ebay should be employing professionals to answers serious ebay questions. I've seen regulars who have tried to help people end up the brunt of the OP's anger on several occasions.

 

 

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Re: Posting ID's
Jan 6, 2012 10:14 AM

I should qualify my interest in this topic that it is not a vendetta against posting ids and add most of the regular posting id's I and you see on the boards as they have evolved from one form to another have been and continue to be very very helpful and knowledgable posters over many years and I have personally defended and explained their hidden knowledge to new and unknowing posters on more than one occasion.(believe it or not?)

 

 

The pinned posting advice that tazz talked about certainly existed and was pinned to the RT and the AAM boards.

 

If you search ebay au guides you will find some have been written on the topic.

 

The posting id "experience" problems seems to generally occur on the selling board when a seller (as ebay has trained then to do) has a snoop to gauge the veracity of the poster's answer to a query made by checking the respondants selling feedback and then the posting id circus begins.

 

 

Sometimes the poster gets the message... but... sometimes they just get defensive and "close their ears and minds" so therefore the message has much more chance of failing.

 

 

What help is that really regardless of the quality of the advice??? (that's the bit that really frustrates me and is a big stumbling block in regards to adult knowledge sharing in the classroom or on the net).

 

Most adults need to "learn" or discover new things themselves (or at least have the feeling they are) they just cannot be 'told" or taught/treated like children.

 

 

So, if ebay only allowed sellers that had items listed or that had paid listing fees for the month previous to respond to threads on the selling board then any OP could at least get some feeling that the responder had experience selling regardless of the tone of the reply or their like or dislike of the information.

 

The OP would be much more likely to also look at other aspects of how that responder sells and how they deal with other problems....

 

 

Posting IDs and buyer only ids could still start and respond to their own selling board threads if they had questions/ideas and posting id's could still address queries in the answer centre or wherever.

 

 

The answer centre has it's own feedback system (popularity contest?) going and gives postings ids the chance to build "forum respect" without revealing their buying or selling habits/ids

 

it's an out for ebay regarding posting ids and also addresses the problem of new posters with questions( on the selling board anyways) not getting or heeding the advice offered (or at least giving them a greater chance of heeding advice)

 

 

Asking a member to list one item a month and therefore have open feedback is not too much to ask to allow them to respond to questions on a site selling board is it?


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(22 of 64)
Re: Posting ID's
Jan 6, 2012 10:41 AM

Most of top threads in Community Next Generation forum have reply from Pink. But this thread doesn't. Instead they pinned this as a featured thread on top of all forums.

 

I think eBay moderation team can't make up mind about posting IDs. They can't say Yes or No at this point.

 

 

I've been around in forums since 2009. I don't know when posting ID was encouraged. I've seen so many people argue about posting IDs and private IDs. Members with posting IDs and private IDs are quite often attacked as "hide behind the IDs".

 

I started to post in seller forum when my feedback was under 100 as a newbie seller. I read so many posts from both with selling IDs and posting IDs. Both selling IDs and posting IDs members gave me great advice. I had learned from them a lot. I had no reason to doubt about experience of ones with posting IDs. I read the posts not checking posters feedbacks.

 

Ones who asking for advice for selling need to have their selling IDs to post if they need more precise advice because to give them advice I need to know some information about the sellers. But ones who give advice don't really need to show their experience. They just have to give advice.

 

I post with this my main ID because this is the ID I started to post. I have 2 more IDs now. For buying and for auction. But I don't even consider posting with those IDs. Not because I want to hide what I'm buying nor selling in auctions. It's because this is the ID I post. I stick with one posting ID (which is selling ID for my case).

 

I know a regular poster with private ID who I believe she was mainly a buyer before she started to sell a few years ago. She posts with her original ID which is private buying ID because it is her posting ID. It doesn't make her "hiding behind private ID".

 

Some posters posts with posting ID because they had bad experience by posting with their selling IDs. I think it's reasonable.

 

There shouldn't be any problems whether posting ID is a selling ID, a buying ID, a private ID or a posting only ID.

 

Problems will occur when one member uses multiple posting IDs to confuse the matter such as backing up own post by using another ID or intentionally insult other members using another ID.

 

I think posing ID should be allowed for all kinds of IDs and members shouldn't be criticised by using buying and private IDs. However members should stick with one posting ID to avoid confusion.


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Re: Posting ID's
Jan 6, 2012 10:56 AM

I have two IDs; this one and one I use for free listings.

 

Whichever one I post with, it's still me posting, with the same knowledge (or lack thereof), although feedback on the other ID is far lower than this one.

 

And I was told, in the thread that triggered this one, to sell something before I started giving advice. So, yes, it is an issue where the OP looks at the advisor rather than the advice, especially when the advice doesn't accord with their paradigm.

 

 


Pete

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