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Patel Jury retires.

azureline** — Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:17:09 GMT

THE jury in the manslaughter trial of former Bundaberg surgeon Jayant Patel has retired to consider its verdict.

Earlier, a judge has told the jury in the trial that they are duty-bound to pay attention to the evidence when deciding whether he is guilty or not guilty.

In the Supreme Court in Brisbane, Justice George Fryberg began his closing address just before midday on Monday, using a PowerPoint slide presentation to help the jury of five men and eight women to consider their verdict.

"It is your duty to pay attention to the evidence and to say whether he is guilty or not guilty," Justice Fryberg said.

"You must determine the facts and that includes determining what evidence to accept and what evidence you do not accept."

He stressed the burden of proof lay with the Crown and asked the jury to "ignore" anything heard outside the case and to put aside "any feelings of sympathy or dislike".

"The accused is presumed to be innocent and you can convict him only if the prosecution established he is guilty," Justice Fryberg said.

"The prosecution must prove guilty beyond reasonable doubt."

Re: Patel Jury retires.

azureline** — Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:18:20 GMT

I have a feeling he will be found not guilty.

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twinkles**stars — Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:19:01 GMT

hmmmmm unfortunately so do I azure

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meh_too — Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:24:28 GMT

Yep, I agree.

If I was on the jury, Renton-Powers testimony would have been enough to cast doubt

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azureline** — Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:49:35 GMT

Yep, I agree.

If I was on the jury, Renton-Powers testimony would have been enough to cast doubt

yes.... me too

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catsnknots — Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:17:00 GMT

Well, I know people that were treated by that dirty a man... one that stands out is a bloke that Patel did a hernia op on.... it got a bit infected after so he went back for a check up... Patel put him on the examination table and proceeded to clean him and and re-suture him without any form of anesthetic or gloves...

oh.. and the young boy that had an emergency circumcision. He too got infected and had to go to his own doctor to get fixed up...

Bundaberg is healing well after this mans behaviour... the many families that lost loved ones after Patel treated them will never be fully ok but life has moved on and the town has worked darn hard to get back to a positive feeling for our local hospital...

If he is found not guilty it will be hard but we are on the path of healing already... there is no one holding their breath waiting for a guilty verdict.

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azureline** — Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:51:08 GMT

I think he is not the only doctor to be guilty of causing more health problems and deaths.

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polksaladallie — Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:06:16 GMT

I think he is not the only doctor to be guilty of causing more health problems and deaths.

You are right, Az. They often bury their mistakes, and families are none the wiser.

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happyroo_bunji — Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:39:12 GMT

Look at that doctor that infected at least 50 women with Hep C in Victoria. He'd been abusing drugs for years, and was allowed to practice while a drug addict.

It went on for years before he was caught.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/hep-c-infected-doctor-pleads-guilty-to-55-charges-of-negligently-causing-serious-injury/story-fndo3ewo-1226513603484

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azureline** — Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:19:25 GMT

Yes..... many cases of inappropriate treatment, wrong meds, overdose of meds.... often go unreported.

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catsnknots — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 06:28:03 GMT

well no surprise there... found not guilty...

he got away with it...

now i guess he is free to go dupe another hospital....

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azureline** — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:08:40 GMT

Yes, no surprise but hopefully now something will be done about the way things are done and a blind eye to questionable behaviours will no longer happen.

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azureline** — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:18:42 GMT

A JURY in the Jayant Patel manslaughter trial has asked for the judge's help for an explanation on the test for gross negligence.

In the Supreme Court in Brisbane on Wednesday the jury of five men and seven women asked Justice George Fryberg for a re-direction following two days of deliberation behind closed doors.

Justice Fryberg said the test applied to criminal conduct was objective, and the standard was that of "a reasonably competent surgeon" in all of the circumstances.

"You should assess what a reasonably competent surgeon would have done," he told them.

He said criminal negligence required a standard of conduct that was "so unskilled or careless as to be grossly negligent".

"It’s very much an assessment you have to make based on your commonsense," Justice Fryberg said.

"It’s a question of degree."