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This is misogyny.

catsnknots — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 23:58:31 GMT

Pakistani sisters shot dead after being filmed dancing outside their home

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/pakistani-sisters-shot-dead-after-being-filmed-dancing-outside-their-home/story-fni0xs63-1226672330529

I find it embarrassing that we accuse our mp's of being a misogynist when this is what is happening to women in other countries.

Re: This is misogyny.

azureline** — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:01:43 GMT

The 2 cannot be compared.

That is barbaric and murder..... 😞

Re: This is misogyny.

cherry*135 — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:06:18 GMT

Agree with az. Insulting to the women who died to compare their fate with that of an Australian MP who is a misogynist.

Re: This is misogyny.

12elliemellie — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:09:08 GMT

I find it embarrassing that we accuse our mp's of being a misogynist when this is what is happening to women in other countries.

and that is cheap political point scoring at it's very worst. Vile and sickening.

Re: This is misogyny.

catsnknots — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:13:58 GMT

no.. it is not political point scoring..

when you keep saying that people on here are misogynists that makes me angry..

Cheapening the word...

This is not just murder.. it is a culture of hating and undervaluing women. Of seeing them as possessions that you have control over and feel you have the right control.

Re: This is misogyny.

izabsmiling — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:14:34 GMT

agree Az.

Is it only a problem ,in your eyes,when the attitude goes that far Cats Back ?

Re: This is misogyny.

izabsmiling — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:15:21 GMT

workplace bullying ...define that ?

only if death results ?

Re: This is misogyny.

catsnknots — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:16:55 GMT

omg Iza.. ?:|

really???

this is not workplace bullying... how in the world do you even relate that in your head?

Re: This is misogyny.

cherry*135 — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:18:30 GMT

It is an attempt at political point scoring.

Tony Abbott is a misogynist. Whether anyone agrees with that or not, how is that going to address these issues in Pakistan?

Re: This is misogyny.

izabsmiling — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:19:01 GMT

you think all else bar that example acceptable ?

Re: This is misogyny.

cherry*135 — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:19:39 GMT

Shakes head at comments made in posts 5&6.

Re: This is misogyny.

izabsmiling — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:20:17 GMT

of course you would

Re: This is misogyny.

izabsmiling — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:21:17 GMT

I agree with #8 Am3 🙂

Re: This is misogyny.

cherry*135 — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:21:50 GMT

Answer this then: this is not workplace bullying... how in the world do you even relate that in your head?

Re: This is misogyny.

kengillard — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:22:51 GMT

disgracefulX-(

Re: This is misogyny.

izabsmiling — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:24:00 GMT

Answer this then: this is not workplace bullying... how in the world do you even relate that in your head?

same deal.It suggests something isn't a problem/doesn't happen til the extreme happens

Re: This is misogyny.

12elliemellie — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:24:37 GMT

no.. it is not political point scoring..

Then why link the two? Just as in all forms of abuse there are variations of severity. That doesn't mean one is misogyny and another isn't. You weaken your argument against this atrocity by bring into it the local political situation.

Re: This is misogyny.

12elliemellie — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:29:17 GMT

And while she may have worded it in a fashion some didn't quite get, I agree with iza when she says It suggests something isn't a problem/doesn't happen til the extreme happens

Re: This is misogyny.

izabsmiling — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:36:49 GMT

anyone overseas including those of other cultures could do a basic search and form an opinion on how much Australian's value the lives of our women

http://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/topics/law-crime-and-justice/crime/murder-and-manslaughter/?page=1

Re: This is misogyny.

catsnknots — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:54:31 GMT

Then why link the two? Just as in all forms of abuse there are variations of severity. That doesn't mean one is misogyny and another isn't. You weaken your argument against this atrocity by bring into it the local political situation.

Because posters on here have been calling others on here misogynists... they call mp's misogynists.

Women in this country have it pretty good... I believe from the bottom of my heart that we are incredibly lucky and I feel sick everytime I hear stories like I posted a link to.

I feel that we can grow as a nation and allow women to climb the ladder with much more ease.. change does need to happen in many places.

But I deeply feel that it is not misogyny. The same day Gillard made her speech about Tony Abbott being a woman hater a young girl in Pakistan was shot in the head by the Taliban because she thought that girls should be educated...

Gillard's speech made headline around the world and that little girl was an afterthought.

If you think I am wrong for my very deep feelings on this then so be it... but I have done a lot of reading... I have had some very meaningful conversations with women in countries where to be a female politician means you need police protection 24 hr a day.

maybe I am wrong.. maybe this is a political thing... but in my mind it is a reality thing.. that we should all consider how lucky we are that our girls won't be shot for dancing in the street.