topic Re: PERPLEXING POLLING in Community Spirit

PERPLEXING POLLING

nero_bolt — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:59:39 GMT

Consider for a moment if Abbott proved an international embarrassment, had trashed Australia’s sovereignty, allowed tens of thousands of Islamic unknowns into our community and in the process was responsible for more than a thousand drownings.

Imagine also if Abbott had spent all of our savings, indebted us to the tune of $300 billion and raided our future fund with absolutely nothing to show for it.

Consider if a Coroner had held Abbott responsible for young Aussie deaths in a pink batts scandal and then ignored his Minister’s warnings before cowardly sacking him.

Imagine if half of the Coalition had publicly blistered Abbott’s flawed character and more than a dozen of his team had resigned rather than serve under him.

There are many more “imagines” but, under those circumstances would Abbott’s polling have improved ten points?

Can I suggest instead, his political career would be over?

There’s obviously much more to this Rudd anomaly and even his supporters are bewildered at his apparent, inexplicable popularity.

There are a number of factors at play in such an extraordinary event as this:

Gillard was detested by all but the loyal Fairfax and ABC. There were audible sighs of relief across the land when she was deposed.

Let’s face it she was horrible and only the loopy Anne Summers is screaming foul play on behalf of rabid feminists.

Gillard has been deserted by the rest of the Left. Her greatest defenders have already forgotten her in the rush to embrace a possible Labor victory.

Diehard Labor voters who turned Green rather than entertain Gillard are returning home.

But the Abbott factor cannot be dismissed. Voters still don’t relate to him and as noted here before, his recent boost in polling was merely a consequence of Gillard’s polling collapse.

Now that Gillard’s awful gender reign is over, voters have returned in sheer relief to the old 50/50 demographic.

If Rudd wants more than a few short weeks in The Lodge he will need to call an election as soon as possible. These sort of knee-jerk poll results do not last.

The longer Rudd was in Office before, the more his Party turned against him, the more his polls deteriorated and the clearer it became just how incompetent an administrator he was.

But Rudd possesses the vanity and arrogance to believe he can turn all that around... and his magical G20 is calling.

The abstract person polled is basically a Bogan with an IQ his boot size who sees only snapshots of headlines and television clips.

He is shallow and repeats sound bites to appear intelligent to his peers, he will go with the flow, as recent polling shows.

But placing a voting slip in a ballot box is far different to blandly answering a pollster's questions on an unsolicited phone call.

Whenever Rudd calls an election a minimum of 33 days of campaigning is necessary and that’s ample time in politics for a flawed contender like Rudd to reveal old tainted colours even Bogans will remember.

Abbott can still look forward to between a 12 and 16 seat majority but the Rudd factor has likely ensured a Green Senate, and a double dissolution will not be as attractive.

Rudd’s current polling is a temporary aberration but he has certainly saved some seats.

After all, isn’t that solely what he was resurrected to do?

Re: PERPLEXING POLLING

a_dingo_ate_my_chinwagger — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:03:54 GMT

I thought the polls were quite clear. Rudd is the preferred prime minister and Labor looks in with a good chance to win.

What's perplexing about that? You might find it frustrating, but it shouldn't perplex you. Austalians are looking for any excuse not to have to vote for Tony Abbot.

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idlewhile — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:23:20 GMT

It's a very confusing phenomenon & only an election will tell the real story of just what these polls portent is. It's also proof positive of the left wing groupthink of most of the media.

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not_an_eloi — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:27:28 GMT

"the stink of pickerin' remains on the hands of those passin' 'is material on"

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lakeland27 — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:27:42 GMT

confusing or deflating ?

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not_an_eloi — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:27:58 GMT

"the stink of pickerin' remains on the hands of those passin' 'is material on"

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i-need-a-martini — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:29:18 GMT

Yes I can imagine how confusing this must be. When everyone thought Abbott was a shoe-in, there was not confusion. But now that he is way down the list as prefferred Pm, there is confusion.

In fact I can clearly visualise all the Liberal supporters wandering around with bewildered looks on their faces murmuring "it just can't be..."

But how ironinc that when the polls turn, then it can only be because they are in left wing media. But when the polls swung the other way (in the same apparently biased media), there was no confusion or bewilderment was there?

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a_dingo_ate_my_chinwagger — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:32:34 GMT

How much confusion and bewilderment can really manifest its self will be seen after the election.

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i-need-a-martini — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:34:17 GMT

Oh and it's the Neilson poll that has presented the latest poll.

Galaxy seems to have gone very quiet. After issuing polls in favour of the Coalition a few times a week for a couple of years now, they have not polled for nearly 3 weeks. Too scared Murdoch media won't pay for the results if they don't like them?

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not_an_eloi — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:06:54 GMT

abbott; "we're on the brink of a famous election victory" "aaah, no i didn't say that".

wotagoose. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRouoxpF7S0

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a_dingo_ate_my_chinwagger — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:11:37 GMT

There's some consolation. The Libs will be able to claim underdog status.

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lakeland27 — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:23:44 GMT

Not so perplexing when you consider Julie Bishop was trying to claim indonesia endorsed coalition policy..

Indonesia's foreign affairs minister Marty Natelegawa says his government will not accept asylum seeker boats being towed back from Australia.

In comments yesterday, Mr Natelegawa said he would be willing to discuss the Opposition's policy to turn boats around if the Coalition won the election, sentiments which had encouraged the Opposition.

But interviewed on Channel Ten last night, Doctor Natalegawa clearly said he did not support the plan to tow back boats.

"Such a policy would constitute a unilateral type of measure that we do not support, and that's why in my earlier remarks today what I said basically is that let's hear what the policy is all about," he said.

"We are not ecstatic about it for sure, but in terms of in the spirit of wanting to hear the various policy options countries are proposing, parties are proposing, it's good to have this dialogue." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-16/marty-natelegawa-says-indonesia-will-not-accept-boats-which-hav/4822114

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debra9275 — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:26:24 GMT

It's been a pretty amazing turnaround in only a couple of weeks. Makes me think of that old saying,

24 hours is a long time in politics

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lakeland27 — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:31:02 GMT

i must admit to being a bit surprised by it all , i thought the reaction would be savage.. but then i remembered Murdoch approves of Rudd, but not Gillard. which explains a lot

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izabsmiling — Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:04:56 GMT

this from the article in the OP

'allowed tens of thousands of Islamic unknowns into our community'

if they are in our Community are they all unknown and do human rights apply to them as they do to all of us ?