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Marriage equality.

lakeland27 — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 02:40:34 GMT

In last evenings so-called debate Rudd said he would introduce a gay marriage or 'marriage equality' bill into the house after the election (should he win) in all the bickering over 'winners' this was the only standout promise. will the other bloke promise the same thing ?

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donnashuggy — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 02:45:01 GMT

No, it is against his religion.

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lakeland27 — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 02:53:00 GMT

so is lying, vanity etc. and yet..

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donnashuggy — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 02:57:11 GMT

You have a very good point there, if he were to slip in the polls then maybe.

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newstart2380 — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 03:03:25 GMT

@lakeland27 wrote:
In last evenings so-called debate Rudd said he would introduce a gay marriage or 'marriage equality' bill into the house after the election (should he win) in all the bickering over 'winners' this was the only standout promise. will the other bloke promise the same thing ?

Kevin Rudd was very much against marraige equality but has changed his mind WHY ? because he hopes it will win him votes, no other reason. At least Tony Abbott believes in what he has always stated and must be admired for his unchanging stance on the matter. He did admit that if it was introduced in parliament again as a concience vote he would abide by party decision.

Kevin Rudd has over the past few months completely done a 360 on almost everything he said in the past (Kevin 07 days) and is adopting many of the NLP policies as a desperate attempt to win. He is a total lip smacking joke and I love the reference to Mr Sheen by another poster

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donnashuggy — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 03:07:42 GMT

That's a good thing newstart, to admit mistakes and grow/change with the times. I used to believe lots of things that I no longer believe, believe it or not I wanted to become a nun once upon a time

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the_great_she_elephant — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 03:09:29 GMT

@newstart2380 wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:
In last evenings so-called debate Rudd said he would introduce a gay marriage or 'marriage equality' bill into the house after the election (should he win) in all the bickering over 'winners' this was the only standout promise. will the other bloke promise the same thing ?
Kevin Rudd was very much against marraige equality but has changed his mind WHY ? because he hopes it will win him votes, no other reason. At least Tony Abbott believes in what he has always stated and must be admired for his unchanging stance on the matter. He did admit that if it was introduced in parliament again as a concience vote he would abide by party decision.
Kevin Rudd has over the past few months completely done a 360 on almost everything he said in the past (Kevin 07 days) and is adopting many of the NLP policies as a desperate attempt to win. He is a total lip smacking joke and I love the reference to Mr Sheen by another poster

I doubt very much whether the people most concerned give a flying fig why he has promised it.

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nero_bolt — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 03:13:01 GMT

It seems that Tony who has a gay sister isnt allowed to have his opinion and because the gays of the country and the people on here dont like it he has to change his mind to suit them.

Unlike their hero the CHEATING fraud RUDD Tony sticks to his opinion and beliefs and that shows his character.. STRONG

The gays need to get over themselves and move on and so do all the people carrying on with their over the top support..

MY guess is it if went to a referendum that it would be a resounding NO vote

TONY has an opinion.... HE is allowed his opinion.... now build a bridge

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freakiness — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 03:14:39 GMT

@nero_wulf wrote:
It seems that Tony who has a gay sister isnt allowed to have his opinion and because the gays of the country and the people on here dont like it he has to change his mind to suit them.

Unlike their hero the CHEATING fraud RUDD Tony sticks to his opinion and beliefs and that shows his character.. STRONG

The gays need to get over themselves and move on and so do all the people carrying on with their over the top support..

MY guess is it if went to a referendum that it would be a resounding NO vote

TONY has an opinion.... HE is allowed his opinion.... now build a bridge

He should have answered the question then with a resounding NO! Instead he evaded the question and rambled on about cost of living.

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lakeland27 — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 03:15:29 GMT

@newstart2380 wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:
In last evenings so-called debate Rudd said he would introduce a gay marriage or 'marriage equality' bill into the house after the election (should he win) in all the bickering over 'winners' this was the only standout promise. will the other bloke promise the same thing ?
Kevin Rudd was very much against marraige equality but has changed his mind WHY ? because he hopes it will win him votes, no other reason. At least Tony Abbott believes in what he has always stated and must be admired for his unchanging stance on the matter. He did admit that if it was introduced in parliament again as a concience vote he would abide by party decision.
Kevin Rudd has over the past few months completely done a 360 on almost everything he said in the past (Kevin 07 days) and is adopting many of the NLP policies as a desperate attempt to win. He is a total lip smacking joke and I love the reference to Mr Sheen by another poster

if he indeed would vote for it if it were a 'conscience vote' that's great. the thing is as leader.. he has to bring on that vote by allowing his colleagues a conscience vote. he hasn't done that, so it is him standing in the way.. its his decision.

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donnashuggy — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 03:17:26 GMT

He did that quite a lot (go off topic) how many times did David Spears have to re-ask the question? It was at least half a dozen times.

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the_great_she_elephant — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 03:32:43 GMT

It seems that Tony who has a gay sister isnt allowed to have his opinion and because the gays of the country and the people on here dont like it he has to change his mind to suit them.

Far from not allowing him to have his opinion, the audience was waiting with baited breath to hear him actually voice his opinion. Alas we were doomed to disappointment.

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izabsmiling — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:07:09 GMT

@nero_wulf wrote:
It seems that Tony who has a gay sister isnt allowed to have his opinion and because the gays of the country and the people on here dont like it he has to change his mind to suit them.

Unlike their hero the CHEATING fraud RUDD Tony sticks to his opinion and beliefs and that shows his character.. STRONG

The gays need to get over themselves and move on and so do all the people carrying on with their over the top support..

MY guess is it if went to a referendum that it would be a resounding NO vote

TONY has an opinion.... HE is allowed his opinion.... now build a bridge

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as others have said they want to hear from him...his opinion is one we all need to vote for /against.He is in it for US not himself .
You seem to suggest that same sex attracted people should get over it (be quiet) if they wish to voice their opinion and wish to be legally married ...
while suggesting that Tony Abbott has a right to his opinion ?
is everyone else (the Australian public) permitted to do so too ?

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polksaladallie — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:12:52 GMT

@nero_wulf wrote:
It seems that Tony who has a gay sister

And a gay................

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izabsmiling — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:17:21 GMT

I don't think he will match that LL.He didn't answer yes or no but..said that there are other things to deal with first or something like that didn't he ?

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polksaladallie — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:17:59 GMT

@newstart2380 wrote:
Kevin Rudd was very much against marraige equality but has changed his mind WHY ? because he hopes it will win him votes, no other reason. At least Tony Abbott believes in what he has always stated and must be admired for his unchanging stance on the matter. He did admit that if it was introduced in parliament again as a concience vote he would abide by party decision.

It will make no difference to Rudd's chances that he has changed his mind on this issue. In the main the people who want "marriage equality" are not conservative voters anyway.

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just_me_karen — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:22:39 GMT

It appeals to the younger generation and tens of thousands have signed up. 50,000 as of yesterday, but there'll be a rush today. I just checked that my address was correct on the aec website.

Tony abbot has his opinion about it, then forces his puppets to follow that opinion, whether they agree with it or not.

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izabsmiling — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:27:34 GMT

NS, He is listening to the Australian public which is part of his job

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*crikey*mate* — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:35:33 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
He did that quite a lot (go off topic) how many times did David Spears have to re-ask the question? It was at least half a dozen times.

Maybe they should employ the services of the Lithium moderators.....

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polksaladallie — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:38:31 GMT

@just_me_karen wrote:
It appeals to the younger generation and tens of thousands have signed up. 50,000 as of yesterday, but there'll be a rush today. I just checked that my address was correct on the aec website.

Yes, but they are in the main not conservative voters anyway.

I heard this morning that the majority of the one million voters who are not registered are aged between 18 and 25. They can enrol online, but they won't be bothered going out and standing in line with a lot of old f..ts. If we would get off our bottoms and bring in on-line voting, all parties would have the advantage of many more votes cast.