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RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

nero_bolt — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 03:15:35 GMT

The man with no policies just sheer desperation Kevin Rudd steals yet another LNP policy and idea and thinks its his

What a FRAUD RUDD is

But is seems that ABBOTTS plan and the LNP white paper was good enough for him to STEAL

Kevin Rudd tries to trump Tony Abbott’s Northern Development plan:

Rudd has announced a plan for the future of northern Australia, including lower company tax for Northern Territory businesses.

Speaking in Darwin, he unveils plans for a special economic zone in the Northern Territory.

Businesses in the Territory would pay one-third of the corporate tax rate of the rest of Australia and investment rules would be relaxed to encourage new developments.

[Actually, Rudd clarifies: the tax cut is one third off - not one third of.]

Rudd says the enormous agricultural capacity of northern Australia needs to be harnessed to create jobs and export food to the rest of the world.

In North Queensland, re-elected Labor would develop strategic growth plans for attracting Chinese visitors to Cairns and enhancing ports and transport in Townsville.

Rudd offers a much more specific and bigger tax cut, but only for the Northern Territory (to avoid falling foul of the Constitution). I doubt Western Australia will feel good about this advantage given to the NT for the development dollar. This seems half-baked.

I think this shows how worried Labor is about losing Lingiari, held by Warren Snowdon on a 3.7 per cent margin.

UPDATE

The plan would also expand the Ord River Irrigation Scheme to open up 14,000 hectares of land in the Northern Territory for agriculture.

The major project would drive $150 million worth of agricultural production in the region.

“This would unleash an enormous amount of agricultural land for the future and, economists tell us, $150 million worth of agricultural production,” Rudd says.

UPDATE

At least Labor has changed its tune from three years ago, when it stacked a committee looking into northern development so it would recommend against the irrigation and agricultural development now being touted by Rudd:

Taskforce member Stuart Blanch explained: “Northern Australia can never be a food bowl for South-East Asia or anywhere else because we just don’t have enough water.”

UPDATE

You’d have to vote for Rudd twice to get the tax cut:

The lower company tax rate he’s announced would not take hold in NT until 2018, which puts it beyond the forward estimates and therefore has no immediate drain on the federal budget.

The company tax rate is 30 per cent at present, so Rudd’s cut would bring it down to 20 per cent for NT-based businesses.

UPDATE

Making it up as they go along:

Mr Rudd said that the company tax cut had not yet been costed. The Prime Minister told reporters that his preference was to see a tax rate in the NT of about a third off the current rate of 30 per cent, but he said that this would be discussed with the NT government after the election.

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

nero_bolt — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 04:20:32 GMT

Let’s have fun watching David Bradbury do the reverse ferret. Here was his reaction last February when the Coalition first proposed northern development:

Assistant Treasurer David Bradbury told Sky News the Coalition’s northern plan would be ‘’hundreds of billions of dollars of white elephant infrastructure‘’.

Mr Bradbury, who represents Lindsay, a western Sydney seat Labor holds by only 1.1 per cent, said Mr Abbott’s idea would result in ‘’gold plated footpaths in Karratha while people are stuck in traffic gridlock in Sydney’’.

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Yes it must be a bad idea if its proposed by the LNP but when RUDD the fraud steals the idea its all OK... Say anything desperation from RUDD and the labor party

Rudd says the tax cut is to apply to “new businesses” in the NT. That suggests new businesses getting a huge tax cut will have a massive advantage over existing businesses in the NT, and could drive some broke.

Rudd admits he’s still working out the costs.

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

lakeland27 — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 04:29:50 GMT

there is one major element of the coalitions 'plan' i was wanting to ask them about. the part regarding towing icebergs up the eastern seaboard to irrigate the dry areas..

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

donnashuggy — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 05:06:21 GMT

Is this an admission that you are going to vote Labor now?

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

the_great_she_elephant — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 05:11:10 GMT

Oh, Nero, dear Nero, you're certainly keen,
Your copy-and-pastes are a sight to be seen.
But alas when we read them we feel like stunned mullets
With rusty old fishing hooks rammed down our gullets.

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

newstart2380 — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 05:43:26 GMT

@lakeland27 wrote:
there is one major element of the coalitions 'plan' i was wanting to ask them about. the part regarding towing icebergs up the eastern seaboard to irrigate the dry areas..

I must have missed that announcement so please send a link or info if of course you do have it, me thinks probobly another LL firfy.

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

lakeland27 — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 05:47:47 GMT

no , you look and i'll stand by the statement unless you disprove it.

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

newstart2380 — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 05:55:30 GMT

@lakeland27 wrote:
no , you look and i'll stand by the statement unless you disprove it.

Just tell me where to look if there is such an article and I will read it and give my opinion.

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

newstart2380 — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 06:02:05 GMT

@lakeland27 wrote:
no , you look and i'll stand by the statement unless you disprove it.

Well curiosity got the better of me so I just googled and the only thing I could find in relation to your comment was an article written in June 2005, LL it's 2013 so where have you been for the past 8 years, digging up old stuff again tut tut.

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

not_an_eloi — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 06:16:01 GMT

establishment of an economic zone is a diffo. thing, to the other thing wot dem national/liberals wanted

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

lakeland27 — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 06:28:20 GMT

@not_an_eloi wrote:

establishment of an economic zone is a diffo. thing, to the other thing wot dem national/liberals wanted

no IPA gina rinehart $2 a day workers from o'seas for starters.

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

lakeland27 — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 06:35:38 GMT

@newstart2380 wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:
no , you look and i'll stand by the statement unless you disprove it.
Well curiosity got the better of me so I just googled and the only thing I could find in relation to your comment was an article written in June 2005, LL it's 2013 so where have you been for the past 8 years, digging up old stuff again tut tut.

i think you'll find the idea is closer to 90 years old. if i remember correctly it was andrew robb who refloated the idea briefly in 2012 or 13. clive palmer was talking giant plastic bags. or vice versa , it matters little because both statements were odd.

Re: RUDD STEALS another ABBOTT LNP plan

newstart2380 — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 06:56:51 GMT

@lakeland27 wrote:
@newstart2380 wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:
no , you look and i'll stand by the statement unless you disprove it.
Well curiosity got the better of me so I just googled and the only thing I could find in relation to your comment was an article written in June 2005, LL it's 2013 so where have you been for the past 8 years, digging up old stuff again tut tut.
i think you'll find the idea is closer to 90 years old. if i remember correctly it was andrew robb who refloated the idea briefly in 2012 or 13. clive palmer was talking giant plastic bags. or vice versa , it matters little because both statements were odd.

So why bring it up now, it has little relevance to what's happening during this elecion.