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FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

donnashuggy — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:19:16 GMT

Another public service announcement.

Should we call it a lie?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/tony-abbott-wrong-on-vaccination-rates/4899740

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

azureline** — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:21:31 GMT

You could but I don't think it was a lie, more not checking and making sure it was the Gospel Truth.

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

***super_nova*** — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:29:49 GMT

If it was Rudd who made the mistake, it would be called a lie. And they still call the "no CO2 tax" staement by JG a lie, even when given the whole quote, over and over. Sadly it works in convincing the braindead to vote LNP even if it means most will be considerably worse off as a result.

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

**meep** — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:31:56 GMT

A lie? I'm not really sure. Wasn't he referring to this? http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/provider/pubs/forms/acir.jsp

Did he misrepresent those stats?

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

monman12 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:32:31 GMT

DY: "Should we call it a lie?"

Only if you wish to overlook tort law DY, and add yet again to Cassidy's comment on Insiders, "nothing but trivia"

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

donnashuggy — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:41:54 GMT

Thanks for your permission to call it a lie Monman 🙂

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

lakeland27 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:43:17 GMT

its an exaggeration of the facts . which if said to deliberately to deceive is by definition a Lie.

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

donnashuggy — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:44:37 GMT

I don't know, maybe Monman could check, he probably has more time for detail than I do.

There are FactChecks criticizing things that Labor has said, should I start a thread about it just to show my balanced viewpoint?

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

just_me_karen — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:48:09 GMT

Frankly, I'm shocked that tony rabbit and his frenetic followers here even believe in immunology. After all, it's invisible.

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

**meep** — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:59:43 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
I don't know, maybe Monman could check, he probably has more time for detail than I do.

Ha! That's exactly what I was just thinking. I was hoping John would be able to come up with the data analysis because I am not even going to attempt to interpret it.

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

monman12 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:50:24 GMT

I do my own research e.g.

In the last trivia "debate" Rudd accused Abbott of reducing public hospital funding by $1 billion when he served as health minister in the former Howard government.

A check produced:

Abbott was the Health Minister who presided over the implementation of the five-year Health Care Agreements funding deals within the Howard Government which actually increased federal public hospital funding from $7.1 billion in 2002-03 to $9.8 billion in 2007-08.

Whoops, liar liar Rudd's pants on fire.

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

azureline** — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:04:38 GMT

that is off topic Monman, this thread is about Abbott's lies....

Re: FactCheck Tony Abbott is wrong on immunisation rates

***super_nova*** — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:55:39 GMT

It looks TA also lied about not cutting health budget: