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    <title>topic The bandwidth effect.The last mile. in Community Spirit</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/641936#M192051</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ6BLIp5_J4" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ6BLIp5_J4&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Malcolm Turbull said Verizon are not rolling out Fibre to the premises any more. It seems he is wrong about that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ignoring the fact that the video is a Verizon ad, it is a good explanation of why FTTP is the way our NBN should continue in its current form.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:51:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-08-27T03:51:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/641936#M192051</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ6BLIp5_J4" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ6BLIp5_J4&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Malcolm Turbull said Verizon are not rolling out Fibre to the premises any more. It seems he is wrong about that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ignoring the fact that the video is a Verizon ad, it is a good explanation of why FTTP is the way our NBN should continue in its current form.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:51:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/641936#M192051</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T03:51:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/641960#M192053</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Everyone I know has gone wifi And yes I am technology challanged&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:02:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/641960#M192053</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T04:02:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642056#M192086</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/295819"&gt;@twinkles**stars&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Everyone I know has gone wifi And yes I am technology challanged&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Same here. Go home, everything connects to home wifi. Go to work, everything connects to work wifi.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My wifi connects to the NBN. Wifi needs a fixed connection to connect to.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlfijY47nE0" target="_blank"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:43:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642056#M192086</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T04:43:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642072#M192092</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Mine doesn't have to be fixed. I have no landline connection at all.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:49:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642072#M192092</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T04:49:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642102#M192105</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/295819"&gt;@twinkles**stars&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mine doesn't have to be fixed. I have no landline connection at all.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Don't you have fixed wireless?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do you plug into your fixed wireless device or does your fixed wireless device have it's own wifi?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:58:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642102#M192105</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T04:58:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642106#M192107</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Don't get to technical on me lol&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's a combined device? Can plug into the computer and it also allows other devices in the house to get wifi. But the computer is not in anyway attached to a landline, be it cable, fibre or otherwise.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 05:02:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642106#M192107</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T05:02:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642108#M192108</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No landline phone either.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 05:02:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642108#M192108</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T05:02:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642128#M192117</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/295819"&gt;@twinkles**stars&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;No landline phone either.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know. I remember when you moved.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have a fixed wireless connection (gateway) with wifi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The fixed wireless connects to the network (probably 3G) and your computers/phones etc connect to the wifi.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 05:11:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642128#M192117</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T05:11:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642154#M192128</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Mobile phone only. So no need for any street connection as the signal is via towers&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 05:26:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642154#M192128</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T05:26:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642172#M192137</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/295819"&gt;@twinkles**stars&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mobile phone only. So no need for any street connection as the signal is via towers&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Didn't you get the wireless gateway you talked about?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After you moved I remember you talking about the cost of getting a phone line and saying you were going to get a wireless gateway.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What sort of data limit/quota do you have?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 05:41:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642172#M192137</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T05:41:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642190#M192145</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The original wireless with optus was all but useless so that went back. Vodafone pre paid is what I have now for my general use. We have a Telstra Elite thingy too for when we want to use the tablets etc. Vodafone is much cheaper.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 05:49:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642190#M192145</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T05:49:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642202#M192148</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;We didn't have any cheap wireless options available.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It used to cost me over $100 for 5GB before I got the NBN.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 05:53:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642202#M192148</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T05:53:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642206#M192150</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have never heard of a gateway. Maybe someone else?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Depends on what I need as to data use. School holidays we use more. Sometimes as little as 500mb is enough per month&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 05:56:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642206#M192150</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T05:56:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642226#M192157</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/668691"&gt;@freakiness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;We didn't have any cheap wireless options available.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It used to cost me over $100 for 5GB before I got the NBN.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's better here now they have put another 2 towers up, glad I'm not close to those! That's another issue lol&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Vodafone is $19 for 500 $29 for 2 and so on. And if I don't use the internet for a month or so I'm not paying a monthy a/c.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm still confused as to the towers and the NBN....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:03:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642226#M192157</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T06:03:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642286#M192172</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/295819"&gt;@twinkles**stars&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have never heard of a gateway. Maybe someone else?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Depends on what I need as to data use. School holidays we use more. Sometimes as little as 500mb is enough per month&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;No, fairly sure it was you. I remember you were going to try the Optus wireless connection for net and phone because Telstra wanted to charge a lot for a connection to your new house.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A gateway is just another name for a modem/device that you can connect your computers, phone etc to to access the network. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I didn't know you sent it back.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Wow, what do you do online? I use more than that in a day &amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😄&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your plan would never suit me &amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😄&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:23:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642286#M192172</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T06:23:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642412#M192201</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Now see I have learnt something.....a gateway lol&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes Telstra wanted $600 to run a cable 3 mts. House is already wired.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:21:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642412#M192201</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T07:21:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642416#M192203</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/295819"&gt;@twinkles**stars&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now see I have learnt something.....a gateway lol&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes Telstra wanted $600 to run a cable 3 mts. House is already wired.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;If NBN is in your area soon the house will get connected at no cost.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There was a story last week where the pit was outside the shop door and they wanted *$7000 to connect it. After some fighting the cost was reduced to *$4000. *approximate&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:26:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642416#M192203</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T07:26:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642440#M192209</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;At no cost? We shall see.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:29:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642440#M192209</guid>
      <dc:creator>twinkles**stars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T07:29:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642444#M192211</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/295819"&gt;@twinkles**stars&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;At no cost? We shall see.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The current NBN conenctions are free to the house.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You obviously pay for a service if you order one, but not the connection.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:33:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642444#M192211</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T07:33:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The bandwidth effect.The last mile.</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642538#M192243</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That was quick.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My answer has gone, vanished.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:52:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/The-bandwidth-effect-The-last-mile/m-p/642538#M192243</guid>
      <dc:creator>freakiness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-08-27T07:52:02Z</dc:date>
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