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The meteoric burn out of Rudd

lightningdance — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 07:10:48 GMT

A very interesting piece that enunciates a lot of what is said about Rudd but never discussed or analyzed. An excellent piece for all who are of the Labor party which may give them some insight as to what has really occured to bring the party to the brink & its final ruin facing it on Sept 7th polling day.

By David Burchell Senior lectureer at University at UWS

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/the-meteoric-rise-and-burnout-of-citizen-kevin/story-fn9qr68y-1226707874138

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

not_an_eloi — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:25:22 GMT

Rudd, Abbott agree election race tight

By Katie Cassidy

Posted 4 hours 4 minutes ago | Updated 1 hour 58 minutes ago

Both Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott believe the election is a tighter race than the latest opinion polls suggest"

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

crystal-gems — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 07:38:52 GMT

I have no idea of who is going to win the election.

Perhaps Tony Abbott as PM. Remember that the USA voted in George W, not once but twice.....go figure.

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

donnashuggy — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 07:51:30 GMT

I think Rudd is giving it his best shot and deserves credit for that, he can't control what the media writes, nor can he control the fact that some people dislike him.

Young people in general often don't give it a lot of thought, my daughter is in Perth and has already voted (she has only one friend voting Labor), my son will not tell us who he intends to vote for and 'tells' us he doesn't care.

Labor probably deserve to lose this election even though I don't want them to.

There are a lot of people out there that probably haven't given a lot of thought about who they are going to vote for.

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

newstart2380 — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 08:34:23 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
There are a lot of people out there that probably haven't given a lot of thought about who they are going to vote for.

And herein lies the problem, if the "common" folk took a little time to look at the policies and decide what they feel is the best for OUR country before their own hip pocket we may have a reasonable government however the polititians know they are dealing with a whole lot of "nignogs" who don't give a royal fig who wins as long as they are alright mate.

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

not_an_eloi — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 08:39:14 GMT

policies, you say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS3dL1L4gTo

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

newstart2380 — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 08:43:30 GMT

@not_an_eloi wrote:

policies, you say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS3dL1L4gTo

Well, one can only hope

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

poddster — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:28:58 GMT

Krudd cant even control what he, himself says 🙂

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

poddster — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:37:45 GMT

The Krudd Campaign secret weapon

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

lakeland27 — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:39:49 GMT

i think the secret weapon is a little closer to home poddster

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

poddster — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:55:45 GMT

Do you mean his personal weapon LL??

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

not_an_eloi — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:02:41 GMT

abbott's new boat stoppin' propsal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzpbFyiAEig

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

***super_nova*** — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:24:37 GMT

@poddster wrote:
Krudd cant even control what he, himself says 🙂

LOL

Rudd is a very good speaker, very much in control. But for message to get through it has to be published in media. The Murdoch press gives plenty of space to fabricated stories like the "lily" affair and "hairdryer gate", but do not print anything about Labor policies, unless they are critisisisng them.

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

lightningdance — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:47:38 GMT

I was hoping for some considered comments on the article. The meteoric rise of Rudd & the spectacular fall all due to his own making. The damage done on the way is enormous to the Labor party.

Rudds behaviour & self delusion, Professor Burchett has done a great peice on all of this but I wonder if anybody bothered to read it & if they did what do they think, or don't they care as long as Labor wins or getting in a quick snipe that doesn't address the topic.

I am genunely interested in what the comments would be.

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

lurker17260 — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:00:52 GMT

It's a bit unfair to critisise people for not commenting on an article that you have to have an account to read. All I can see is:

I doubt we have ever seen, or are likely to see again, a meteor shoot across our political firmament with the same extraordinary flaming, dying arc as Kevin Rudd.

For the past seven years of our national life, he has played the role not so much of a political leader as of the central character in a literary tragedy of his own writing, or the lead in a classic Hollywood melodrama of his own direction - a Jay Gatsby, a Charles Foster Kane, a Chauncey Gardiner.

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

meh_too — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:01:31 GMT

@newstart2380 wrote:
@donnashuggy wrote:
There are a lot of people out there that probably haven't given a lot of thought about who they are going to vote for.
And herein lies the problem, if the "common" folk took a little time to look at the policies and decide what they feel is the best for OUR country before their own hip pocket we may have a reasonable government however the polititians know they are dealing with a whole lot of "nignogs" who don't give a royal fig who wins as long as they are alright mate.

I think you mean ningnongs, nignogs has an entirely different meaning

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

lightningdance — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:07:52 GMT

No criticism intended just thought a fair comment would suffice.

I could have copy & pasted the whole article seeing as so many on here read the news corp papers because of all the criticising of it.

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

***super_nova*** — Sun, 01 Sep 2013 00:08:10 GMT

Of-course, Rudd has to run presidential type campaign, he cannot really run on the past 3 years successes because he was a backbencher. So while Australian economy has grown slowly but steadily (while all other economies have plunged), our unemployment is still low, interest rates are historically low, and inflation is low, and we are the envy of the rest of the world, Rudd cannot very well take a credit for it. He needs to run on future plans, but people are just not listening. They are reading the gossip rags. Well, does not matter how badly they think they are off, they will be lot worse off if Tony wins. It will not make much difference to me; I will just sit back and watch the bogans losing their jobs and houses, or if still working losing their entitlements, and getting taxed more, while the rich get their PPL and tax cuts.

Re: The meteoric burn out of Rudd

lurker17260 — Sun, 01 Sep 2013 00:20:45 GMT

I was at a function last night (non-political) where most of the guests, you would have been forgiven for thinking, were traditional, older, more conservative types.

When the conversation got around to who they might vote for next weekend, almost to a person, they all said that while they weren't particularly happy with Labor they certainly didn't want Abbott at the helm!