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What is acid rain?

donnashuggy — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:58:14 GMT

Does it have anything to do with not being able to breathe in Beijing ?

Re: What is acid rain?

margomeoz — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:24:27 GMT

Hi Donna that sounds about right.

Hey it is good that the climate change scientests are not going to abandoned their studies just because abbott sacked them

They are getting heaps of donations.

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siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:28:10 GMT

Wasn't that a song by Prince?

oh hang on.... that was Purple Rain.....woopsie.

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joz*garage — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:49:58 GMT

Whats acid rain?

its man made air polution, mixed in with rain

45 minutes ago

Does it have anything to do with not being able to breathe in Beijing ?

i dunno, but i believe it can cause respiratory problems with humans and any other animal that breathes

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serendipityricho — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:46:50 GMT

Acid rain dosnt happen-but here in the Latrobe Valley its covered over.

The workers who parked in the cark parks at the coal fired power stations,

used to get free car wash vouchers as part of their package...............Richo.

Re: What is acid rain?

cherry*135 — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:25:27 GMT

Scary stuff. I didn't know about the acid fog in London in 1952.

Acid deposition is a general name for a number of phenomena, namely acid rain, acid fog and acid mist. This means it can imply both wet and dry (gaseous) precipitation. Acid deposition is a rather well known environmental problem, for example acid fog killed several thousand people in London in 1952.

December 1952 brought an episode of heavy smog to London, which lasted until March 1953. Light winds and a high moisture content created ideal conditions for smog formation. The unusual cold in London in the winter of 1952-1953 caused additional coal combustion and many people travelled only by car, which caused the occurrence of a combination of black soot, sticky particles of tar and gaseous sulphur dioxide. This resulted in the heaviest winter smog episode known to men.

Measurements suggested that the concentration of particulate matter in the air had reached 56 times its normal level. Sulphur dioxide concentrations increased to seven times its peak level. The smoke particles trapped in the fog gave it a yellow-black colour. Sulphur dioxide reacted with substances in foggy droplets to form sulphuric acid, adding an intense form of acid rain to the process.

By night of December 5 the smog was so dense that visibility dropped to only a few meters. Smog easily entered buildings, causing cinemas, theatres and stores to be closed. Transport became largely impossible. Motor vehicles were abandoned, trains were disrupted and airports were also closed.

The smog episode killed approximately 12.000 people, mainly children, elderly people and people suffering from chronic respiratory or cardiac disease. The number of deaths during the smog disaster was three or four times that on a normal day. They could be attributed to lung disease, tuberculosis and heart failure. Mortality from bronchitis and pneumonia increased more than sevenfold.

Peaks of smoke and sulphur dioxide were in line with peaks in deaths. However, most deaths occurred because of breathing in acid aerosols, which irritates or inflames the bronchial tubes. Acidity was not measured, but estimates show that the pH probably fell to 2 during the peaks in the smog episode.

The highest death rate during the smog episode occurred on December 8 and December 9, at 900 deaths per day. In some parts of the city death rates even increase to nine times the normal number. Until spring the death rate remained high at almost a thousand more deaths per week than expected in a normal winter.

This heavy pollution and its resulting death toll made people aware of the seriousness of air pollution. The London smog disaster resulted in the introduction of the first Clean Air Acts in 1956.

Re: What is acid rain?

buzzlightyearsgirlfriend — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:10:40 GMT

Acid Rain! No such thing.

Mr Abbott has decided there is no need to worry about what people and industry are doing to the world and the environment. We don't need to worry about climate change or any of that horrid "greenie" hippy **bleep**. So just settle. You know how shrill us women sound when we attempt to argue against anything. It's not very ladylike!

The Prime MInister for Woman (sic) will take care of us, well those woman (sic) of calibre amongst us. The rest of us woman (sic) (not of calibre) just need to be good and quiet and let wide Mr Abbott get on with the job. It's just so, .....unbecoming when ladies have an opinion or a very strong point of view.

If we need to dig up the Great Barrier Reef to find oil or gold or whatever it dun' matter! We should just dig up all the things!

Acid rain, what piffle. Make me a sandwich.

Re: What is acid rain?

poddster — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:15:56 GMT

Hate to burst your bubble Margo but Tim and crew don't do any studies they just collate the work of others in a way that suits their agenda.

Don't believe me? Do some research into it before you decide to line Tim and crew's coffers .

🙂

Re: What is acid rain?

***super_nova*** — Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:01:00 GMT

@poddster wrote:
Hate to burst your bubble Margo but Tim and crew don't do any studies they just collate the work of others

They try to make scientific papers on studies accessible to ordinary people as well as the government, who do not have the background in scientific educations to understand the data. Just like the IPCC paper, which was leaked and immediately misrepresented, and when it comes out it will need somebody to go through it carefully, and get the correct facts presented such a way that we understand what the mean. To make sure it is done right we need independent body, panel of number of qualified people, including somebody who is able to communicate with the public.

Re: What is acid rain?

just_me_karen — Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:22:15 GMT

Look, you people.

Can you SEE acid rain? No, I didn't think so. Obviously it doesn't exist and if your kids have hacking coughs it's probably because they've been playing with greenies.

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just_me_karen — Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:23:18 GMT

That's not correct, poddy. I suggest you do a little research.

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*ibis — Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:25:14 GMT

@just_me_karen wrote:
That's not correct, poddy. I suggest you do a little research.

huh?