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    <title>topic Re: Photo challenge rules in Community Spirit</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894613#M249191</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I found this .It might be helpful ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Why Photographers Behave Badly Online (And How To Make Sure You Don’t)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class="article-meta article-meta-top"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;June 12, 2012&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;shelved in:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A target="_blank" href="http://psychologyforphotographers.com/category/business-life" rel="category tag" title="View all posts in Business Life"&gt;Business Life&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="article-meta article-meta-top"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="article-meta article-meta-top"&gt;I’m still debating whether I want to bring this up.&amp;nbsp; But it’s time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="article-meta article-meta-top"&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have you ever hesitated to share an image on a forum because you were afraid someone would turn on the nasty hose and drench you with negativity?&amp;nbsp; Have you ever obsessively written and re-written a forum or blog post because of what people might say if you misspoke?&amp;nbsp; Have you ever had a lump of fear rise in your throat when you introduced your work to a wider audience or otherwise exposed yourself to anonymous attacks?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You’re not alone.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jodi over at MCP Actions recently posted&amp;nbsp;&lt;A target="_blank" href="http://www.mcpactions.com/blog/2012/04/19/new-rules-for-mcp-blog-facebook/"&gt;new rules of conduct&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;for her facebook and blog comments.&amp;nbsp; This was triggered by waves of negativity, arrogance, and destructive criticism that made new photographers in her community feel “hurt, frustrated, and scared.”&amp;nbsp; (Good move, Jodi!)&amp;nbsp; Her new rules emphasize respect, empathy, and awareness of others’ views.&amp;nbsp; I’m a fan.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Her brave stance also nudged me to ask:&amp;nbsp; Why were the new rules necessary in the first place?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;Why do we, as an industry, “eat our young”? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;P&gt;Why do people instinctively look at others a few rungs below them on the ladder and want to knock them down further?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What’s with the nastiness that scums up what could have been a useful and constructive critique of someone’s work?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I see at least five basic reasons for the rising tide of ‘mean.’&amp;nbsp; And I believe the&lt;EM&gt;potential&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;for it hides inside all of us.&amp;nbsp; Perhaps it’s time we parade a few things into the light so we can find better ways to respond.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;read more:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A target="_blank" href="http://psychologyforphotographers.com/why-photographers-behave-badly-online"&gt;http://psychologyforphotographers.com/why-photographers-behave-badly-online&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm glad that I'm simply a poster on a general discussion board.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:49:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>izabsmiling</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-12-17T11:49:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894415#M249119</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know a few of of us have pics on our computers they were taken by spouses or offspring.&amp;nbsp; Someone else mentioned having siblings photos as well. Then there are professional pics that still belong to us e.g. school photos of our kids etc..&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's hard to know where to draw the line. I have pics taken with my camera by my my hubby and I have to stop and think which one of us took it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think if we have a direct link to the the pic it should be allowed to be posted, but I'm not sure about voting on it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm going to offer a few options in the next few posts. Give kudos to the one you agree with the most.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:40:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894415#M249119</guid>
      <dc:creator>the*scarlet*pimpernel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:40:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894421#M249121</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Only photos taken by the poster are elligible for a Winning Placement&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:41:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894421#M249121</guid>
      <dc:creator>the*scarlet*pimpernel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:41:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894427#M249123</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Photos that the poster features in are elligible for Winning placement&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:42:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894427#M249123</guid>
      <dc:creator>the*scarlet*pimpernel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:42:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894435#M249125</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Photos taken by the posters spouse (but they are too slack to post them themselves) are elligible for Winning placement&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:43:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894435#M249125</guid>
      <dc:creator>the*scarlet*pimpernel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:43:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894441#M249127</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Photos taken on posters family members are elligible for Winning status.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:44:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894441#M249127</guid>
      <dc:creator>the*scarlet*pimpernel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:44:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894443#M249128</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Um, thats the end of the options.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All pics that you, or someone in your family who has given you permission to use, are welcome to be posted so we have something to look at.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;It's nice to get kudos for a photo you have posted even if it isn't elligible for a Winning position and some of the pics are so lovely and 'shareworthy'.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:49:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894443#M249128</guid>
      <dc:creator>the*scarlet*pimpernel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:49:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894453#M249132</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;If a poster uses a tripod for their camera or uses their phone for a selfie shot, then that should be permitted, but it must be stated how the picture was taken.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;We use the tripod a lot for videos or photos to send pictures of both of us to family and close friends.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Erica&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:49:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894453#M249132</guid>
      <dc:creator>lind9650</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:49:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894455#M249133</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;who is misty?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:49:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894455#M249133</guid>
      <dc:creator>latina4621</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:49:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894457#M249134</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Doesn't that just get confusing though?.. photos that are eligible to win and photos that aren't all in the same thread. People will still vote for the ones that aren't eligible to win so what is the point in doing that?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is a PHOTO CHALLENGE, which doesn't usually mean using someone elses work.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:50:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894457#M249134</guid>
      <dc:creator>cherry*135</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:50:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894465#M249136</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;the point is we get lots of great pics to look at but I can still pic out the fair winner&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;or try to, I have failed in the past &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.png" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:52:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894465#M249136</guid>
      <dc:creator>the*scarlet*pimpernel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:52:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894467#M249137</link>
      <description>In my opinion, one of the best features of this concept is testing (and I suppose judging) our photography skills. I see those as being composition, technique and content. If we allow photos taken by others I believe we discount two of those three.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:53:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894467#M249137</guid>
      <dc:creator>lurker17260</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:53:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894469#M249138</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Lots of pics.. but where is the challenge, input from the person that posted them?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:54:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894469#M249138</guid>
      <dc:creator>cherry*135</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:54:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894473#M249139</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;what's the prize for winning?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:54:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894473#M249139</guid>
      <dc:creator>the_bob_delusion</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:54:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894475#M249140</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;lind9650 wrote:&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;If a poster uses a tripod for their camera or uses their phone for a selfie shot, then that should be permitted, but it must be stated how the picture was taken.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;We use the tripod a lot for videos or photos to send pictures of both of us to family and close friends.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Erica&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;I think that will be to confusing, the tripod thing, we do not need to know that, we just have to be honest that it is our own picture, we should state where it was taken and I'd say forget about selfies. This is not a criticism just my opinion.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:54:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894475#M249140</guid>
      <dc:creator>green.fields</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:54:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894481#M249142</link>
      <description>It's obvious rule 8 needs removing lol</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:57:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894481#M249142</guid>
      <dc:creator>just_me_karen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T10:57:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894483#M249143</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Since I am the only one here that takes photo's I don't have the problem of knowing who took the photo.&amp;nbsp; I have a brother and son who are right into photography but I wouldn't dream of using any of their photo's ever.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also think if you want to share what others (as in family or friends)&amp;nbsp; take that there should be a separate thread for that because it will become too confusing for some, especially people just wanting to look and vote, they might not know the rules.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm all for the KISS system&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.png" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:00:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894483#M249143</guid>
      <dc:creator>green.fields</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T11:00:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894493#M249146</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think that maybe photos taken by spouse or family member can be included for kudos with a statement that it is by a family member but it can't be in the winners circle.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think I voted wrong. &amp;nbsp;I am happy for them to be included and either included or not included in the comp&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.png" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Either way.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:06:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894493#M249146</guid>
      <dc:creator>j*oono</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T11:06:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894495#M249147</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Until this latest challenge, the rules did state ..photo must be posters own work.. prior to that only 1 or 2 ( personal photos with poster themselves in them) were posted that weren't posters own work, plus a couple of blips early on.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Seriously? Why would you want to post someone else's work (for example, of scenery that you weren't actually there yourself to witness)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This weeks topic is weather, anyone can go outside and take a photo to join in.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:09:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894495#M249147</guid>
      <dc:creator>cherry*135</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T11:09:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894501#M249149</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I also forgot to say that with the photo of me, I have a 10 second timer on my camera. &amp;nbsp;That was not easy to accomplish with a hoop.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894501#M249149</guid>
      <dc:creator>j*oono</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T11:08:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Photo challenge rules</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894513#M249153</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;regardless of who took what, i thought erica's pic was way way way better then she-les, just sayin&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:14:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Photo-challenge-rules/m-p/894513#M249153</guid>
      <dc:creator>joz*garage</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-17T11:14:40Z</dc:date>
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