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Crowds go cold on climate cost

nero_bolt — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:27:43 GMT

MAURICE NEWMAN
From: The Australian
December 31, 2013 12:00AM

IN his marvellous chronicle of human gullibility, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, Charles Mackay wrote: "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

It's a pity Mackay did not live long enough to include anthropogenic global warming in his list of popular delusions. There has been none bigger.

Since its first report in 1990, the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change progressively has applied mass psychology through a compliant media to spread the delusion that wicked Western industrialists are causing irreparable damage to the climate. It champions compensation for developing countries for unspecified damages. The related UN Framework Convention on Climate Change issued a press statement in Warsaw last month saying that 48 of the poorest countries had finalised plans to deal with the inevitable impacts (what inevitable impacts?) of climate change. Several of the richest countries have pledged $100 million to add to the Adaptation Fund.

The $100m fund is additional to the hundreds of billions of dollars spent annually on reducing greenhouse emissions. Germany has been an exemplar, showing the way through substantial investment in wind turbines, solar panels. hydroelectricity and biomass (wood). Yet it has not reduced CO2 emissions in Europe by a single gram. That's little consolation to the 800,000 Germans who had power cut off last year because they couldn't pay their power bills. Little consolation, too, for German industry, which finds it is paying twice as much for electricity as its American competitors.

German utilities, which are required by law to provide back-up power for the renewable generators, are facing a bleak financial future with falling profits, increasing debt and depressed share prices. This is a serious economic and political challenge for Germany.

In Britain, which is subject to EU emissions directives, there are reports that hundreds of businesses are to be paid to shut down between 4pm and 8pm on winter weekdays to prevent blackouts. Is this the developed economy of the future?

Australia, too, has become hostage to climate change madness. It has been a major factor in the decimation of our manufacturing industry. The Australian dollar and industrial relations policies are blamed. But, for some manufacturers, the strong dollar has been a benefit, while high relative wages have long been a feature of the Australian industrial landscape. It is the unprecedented cost of energy, driven by the Renewable Energy Target and carbon tax, which, at the margin, has destroyed our competitiveness. And for all the propaganda about "green employment", Australia seems to be living the European experience where, for every green job created, two to three jobs are lost in the real economy.

The scientific delusion, the religion behind the climate crusade, is crumbling. Global temperatures have gone nowhere for 17 years. According to climatologist Roy Spencer's research, "Over the period of satellite measurement, 1979-2012, both the surface and satellite observations produce linear temperature trends which are below 87 of the 90 climate models used in the comparison" - that is, 97 per cent were wrong.

If the IPCC were your financial adviser, you would have sacked it long ago. Yet, undaunted, some NSW councils still restrict beachside development based on IPCC predictions, which are 10 times the 80 years observed record. Now, credible German scientists claim that "the global temperature will drop until 2100 to a value corresponding to the 'little ice age' of 1870".

True to Mackay's observation, individuals and scientists are slowly recovering their senses. Global polls confirm that climate change policies are losing public support. The scientific community, including some former IPCC reviewers, is rethinking. .

But the climate change establishment, through the IPCC, remains intent on exploiting the masses and extracting more money. When necessary the IPCC resorts to dishonesty and deceit.

Himalayagate and Amazongate are examples. Passing off NGO activists and single-degree graduates as top scientists, likewise. Its authors have fudged data to ensure conformity with their narrative. IPCC scientists were implicated in Climategate 1 and 2. Its notorious megaphone, the BBC, hosted a conference of Britain's "best scientists" to justify biased reporting. After years of refusing to name attendees, it was finally revealed they were mainly green NGOs and BBC executives.

Australia lends its own subtle helping hand. Tens of millions of dollars are being paid annually to non-compliant wind turbine operators by compliant politicians and bureaucrats. In a speech to the Senate on December 10, senator John Madigan exposed the "cosy relationship" that exists between wind generators and the Victorian government. He said: "Victoria's wind industry is churning out multiple millions of dollars' worth of renewable energy certificates it is not entitled to and being allowed to rort the RET and LRET systems. Is the wind industry telling its financiers that they are funding wind farms that breach their planning permit conditions?" Obviously not. But where is the media scrutiny?

The health departments in NSW and Victoria also have fallen for the delusion. They, together with the departments of Planning and Noise Pollution Regulation, have abrogated their responsibility to protect the health of the people. They are guilty of numerous examples of false and misleading statements and hiding what is occurring to rural communities in their states. Where is the outrage? The NSW Office of Environment and Heritage even gave a $60,000 grant for "Overcoming Barriers and Generating Opportunities for Community Wind Power in Central Western NSW".

Why are taxpayers promoting for-profit enterprises?

From the UN down, the climate change delusion is a gigantic money tree. It is a tyranny that, despite its pretensions, favours the rich and politically powerful at the expense of the poor and powerless. But the madness of the crowds is waning and, as Mackay writes of the perpetrators: "Punishment is sure to overtake them sooner or later." We can only hope it comes before most of us descend into serfdom

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

lakeland27 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:35:02 GMT

more tripe from the tripe factory. i feel pity for the readers who swallow this garbage on a regular basis. maybe a cure is just around the corner .

where is the article about the high court tossing out Oh! farrell's attempts to stifle his political opponents by denying them the right to fund political campaigns ?

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

ashjoma — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:51:57 GMT

Hopefully people are waking up to the AGW / climate change scam. (Excepting lakeland27)

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:54:35 GMT

@ashjoma wrote:
Hopefully people are waking up to the AGW / climate change scam. (Excepting lakeland27)

They are.......others are a bit slow to catch on.,.......

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

polocross58 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:54:45 GMT

Quote:

That's little consolation to the 800,000 Germans who had power cut off last year because they couldn't pay their power bills. Little consolation, too, for German industry, which finds it is paying twice as much for electricity as its American competitors.

German utilities, which are required by law to provide back-up power for the renewable generators, are facing a bleak financial future with falling profits, increasing debt and depressed share prices. This is a serious economic and political challenge for Germany. '

Says it all right there

The hoax of 'climate change' as invented by the Club of Rome

benefits only the very few

most of whom --- like Al Gore ---- are members of the Club of Rome who INVENTED the hoax of 'climate change'

and profit from the scam

at the sheeps' expense

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

polocross58 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:58:09 GMT

Gillard is not afraid of 'climate change' is she

LOL

Bought herself a luxury property

right there in the path of the supposed 'rising seas attributable to the hoax that is climate change'

Gillard was sending all the sheepies a message, it seems

the message being, ' Hey, I was paid to push the climate-change scam when I was posing as Prime Minister, but jeepers folks, you didn't really take me seriously did you. See ya at the beach, suckers '

LOL

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

ashjoma — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 03:02:52 GMT

Quote by Club of Rome: "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention....and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose."

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

ashjoma — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 03:06:16 GMT

Wake up people , you are being scammed with a very evil, hidden agenda behind the scam.

It is a very clever scam and in the way it is presented to you, under the guise of sustainability.

After all, no one wants to be 'unsustainable' do they.

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Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

ashjoma — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 03:14:29 GMT

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

lakeland27 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 03:25:58 GMT

psuedo science devotees. why not get the plumber out to fix the car aye ?

meanwhile , while you were looking at utube

Annual records broken on Sunday

Warwick - 40.4C (previous record 40.2C in 2012)
Toowoomba - 38.3C (previous record 38.2C in 2009)
Miles - 43.8C (previous record 42.6C in 2012)
Roma - 44.7C (previous record 42.4C in 2012)
St George - 45.5C (previous record 43.2C in 2009)

"Given that forecast, the length and strength of this heatwave is significant, with Longreach likely to have maximum temperatures in the mid-40s until the weekend.

"If that happens, it will be the first time temperatures have been so high for so long in 50 years of records."

The southern towns of Miles and Roma both broke annual records on Sunday, sweltering through temperatures of 48.3C and 44.7C respectively.

Warwick also saw a new annual record of 40.4C, as did Toowoomba Airport (38.3C) and St George Airport (45.5C).

Towns like Windorah (47.3C), Oakey (40.3C), Injune (43.2C), Charleville (46.0C) and Quilpie (46.2C) had their hottest December days on record, while Longreach recorded its warmest night at 30.7C, breaking a 45-year record.

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

ashjoma — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 03:51:53 GMT

So what, lakeland27

Means nothing, there will always be somewhere, sometime, experiencing some kind of extreme.

How long have records been kept, a tiny tiny fraction of time.

And be careful of what you read, weather stations are often placed in spots which will give erroneous results eg near air conditioning units, airport tarmacs.

Data can be cherry picked.

Go to Mt Selwyn in NSW, It is not signposted and not known, but there are wonderful fossil beds, used to be a warm shallow marine sea. Now a winter ski field.
Trilobite beds near Cooma as well.

As I said before, be worried, very worried about Fukushima. This will impact this planet, our food, our lifestyle and our very survival. And if the cleanup of the rods currently underway goes bad, then we are all in trouble a lot sooner

At least we are somewhat lucky in the Southern Hemisphere, and the radiation will affect us more slowly, but will over the passage of time

Also the gulf oil spill, kept off the media like Fukushima, but affecting the ocean currents, eg loop current, and this will have more affect on earth's climate, than the carbon dioxide scam.

And there are other things as well which need to be change, the amount of rubbish produced, waste of food and resources.

Carbon dioxide is not an issue, just a scam to introduce an agenda to change society.

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Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

lakeland27 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:08:08 GMT

are you saying they collect temperatures in a new way that distort the readings ? you'll need proof to convince me, not the second -hand say so of some clown.

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izabsmiling — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:34:27 GMT

Maurice Newman, Tony Abbott's top business adviser

The Coalition distanced itself from comments he made ..

Back in November the Coalition government distanced itself from controversial comments by Maurice Newman..who said that wages were too high and the government could not afford education and disability funding promises.

I think he may be aware that the Direct Action policy wasn't fully funded and fully costed as per pre election promise

and like many perhaps he knows it's a dud policy

oh yes...not to mention the need to rubbish Global Warming so as to help avoid that early election TA promises he's call if necessary

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

ca04 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 06:46:08 GMT

As one clown to another LL27 they switched from temp recording from post offices to temps at airports which are unversaly

accepted as the hottest spot in town.

By the way I hail from Longreach & I can assure you that it has had hotter nights than low 30s and those when air/con was not found in homes very much.

I find it amusing that I am older than most of the records that are being used here to make one point or another.:-)

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

lakeland27 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 06:50:49 GMT

@ca04 wrote:
As one clown to another LL27 they switched from temp recording from post offices to temps at airports which are unversaly
accepted as the hottest spot in town.
By the way I hail from Longreach & I can assure you that it has had hotter nights than low 30s and those when air/con was not found in homes very much.
I find it amusing that I am older than most of the records that are being used here to make one point or another.:-)

you'll need proof. OK ? too many claims made to accept that on face value. do you keep records ? i'm inclined to go with the professional meteorologists myself .

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

*mrgrizz* — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 06:54:04 GMT

does taxing carbon magically make it disappear?

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

lakeland27 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 06:56:36 GMT

@*mrgrizz* wrote:
does taxing carbon magically make it disappear?

it encourages polluters to make less. it works too.

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 06:59:44 GMT

@ca04 wrote:
As one clown to another LL27 they switched from temp recording from post offices to temps at airports which are unversaly
accepted as the hottest spot in town.
By the way I hail from Longreach & I can assure you that it has had hotter nights than low 30s and those when air/con was not found in homes very much.
I find it amusing that I am older than most of the records that are being used here to make one point or another.:-)

The mistakes made by our BOM are an embarrassment.

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

lakeland27 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 07:02:34 GMT

well show us then siggie reported by realists . you make so many unsubstantiated claims, back it up please

Re: Crowds go cold on climate cost

just_me_karen — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 07:05:09 GMT

It's surprising the number of people who don't understand the basics of carbon pricing. Well ok, not really...but all educated people really should try and learn, if only so they can make informed judgements instead of politically ideological flimflam statements that only show how some didn't listen in junior science or economics class.

Carbon pricing worked in Australia, it reduced greenhouse pollutants, increased renewable energy usage and increased research into clean power sources. Just like fines reduce the number of speeding cars on our road,..money is an excellent motivator in a capitalist society.