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Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship

nero_bolt — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 00:12:56 GMT

Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship before the royal commission into union corruption.... Little Billy wants to keep his head down as he has his dirty finger prints over many things that will be investigated.

LABOR leader Bill Shorten is believed to be preparing to further cut Labor ties to the union movement by scrapping rules that restrict ALP membership to those who belong to a union.

The move, according to senior ALP sources, would be the most significant symbolic reform to the ALP in decades and send a message to the community that Labor was no longer run by unions. (Trying to pull the wool over the peoples eyes this move thats all it is)

The Labor leader is expected to make an announcement on further reforms to ALP structures within weeks in an attempt to limit damage to Labor ahead of the government’s royal commission into the union movement. (Rats deserting a sinking ship)

Sources close to Mr Shorten, a union leader before he entered parliament, revealed he had privately decided to make the symbolic break with the industrial base for the good of the party. He would have to take the reforms to the party’s next national conference, which is not until 2015.

During a Press Club speech yesterday, Mr Shorten hinted at the reforms, claiming the ALP needed to broaden its appeal. He wants to more than double the ALP’s membership from 45,000 to 100,000.

“When it comes to modernising our relationship with the unions, we have to. Let there be no one under any doubt. I think we have to,” Mr Shorten said yesterday.

“We have to appeal to people who might think they don’t want to be in a union but they’d like to be involved with the Labor Party.”

While many ALP branches do not strictly enforce the rule that requires members to be in a union, the fact it remains is regarded as a powerful symbol of Labor’s union ties.

Senior Labor sources agreed that removing the rule would be a “powerful symbolic gesture that Labor is interested in its future”. (Yes a con and pulling the wool over peoples eyes)

“It’s a starting point,” a senior federal Labor source said.

“It would send an appropriate message to the community that the Labor Party is not run by the trade union movement.” (is is and always will be)

Senior Labor sources confirmed Mr Shorten had told them he was committed to the reform, despite the likelihood of a dangerous backlash from unions and left wing elements of the ALP.

It is expected he would get the backing of the powerful NSW right faction of the party, which has led the way in reforming and democratising the party since the corruption scandals that have rocked the NSW branch.

NSW Labor will be the first to have direct-elected delegates to the party’s national conference and has always maintained 100 per cent rank and file preselections.

But the move to broaden the membership of the branches is regarded as vital to being more representative of the community and bringing Labor back to the middle political ground

Re: Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship

lakeland27 — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 00:16:20 GMT

i actually find the inserted graphic funny too . despite the story .

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boris1gary — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 00:18:10 GMT

where is the "article" from?

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spotweldersfriend — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 00:26:06 GMT

Labor looks forward.Libs look back.Arise, Sir John of Bennelong.

Re: Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship

freakiness — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 01:55:45 GMT

@boris1gary wrote:
where is the "article" from?

Plagiarised from somewhere.

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*mrgrizz* — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:08:53 GMT

LABOR leader Bill Shorten is believed to be preparing to further cut Labor ties to the union movement by scrapping rules that restrict ALP membership to those who belong to a union.

is the above true?

you need to be a union member to join the ALP?

Re: Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship

freakiness — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:20:27 GMT

It must be an out of date rule that is no longer adhered to and would be best removed.

There have been a few discussions and articles about the rule and the fact that it is out dated and largely ignored these days.

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*mrgrizz* — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:30:40 GMT

@freakiness wrote:
It must be an out of date rule that is no longer adhered to and would be best removed.
There have been a few discussions and articles about the rule and the fact that it is out dated and largely ignored these days.

i was going to say

wouldn't that be discrimination.

Re: Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship

boris1gary — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:39:37 GMT

@freakiness wrote:
It must be an out of date rule that is no longer adhered to and would be best removed.
There have been a few discussions and articles about the rule and the fact that it is out dated and largely ignored these days.

The whole thing is funny because the Trade Union movement would benefit from cutting ties with the ALP, the ALP on the other hand would not. Communists all around the world have been arguing for some time that trade unions in capitalist countries should be independent from political parties - it's so good to see some conservatives agreeing with us comms.

WFTU - World Federation of Trade Unions

WFTU believes in the Independence of Trade Union organisations from monopolies and transnational corporations. We live in a society divided into classes, therefore trade unions represent Working Class with its contemporary characteristics, aiming at a wide coalition with broad popular strata. Trade Union movement must be organisationally independent from political parties. To fight back against the policies of governments that are harmful to popular strata. To be financially independent so as not to depend on secret sources.

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spotweldersfriend — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:40:15 GMT

I had friends who were members of the ALP in the 70's.They were high school students.

Re: Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship

silverfaun — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:41:30 GMT

Too late Bill, no credibility is your middle name.

Hot air and rhetoric, scare campaigns and what if's is all he's good for. Guillotining the rivers of money from the unions garnisheeing workers wages? We'll see.

Re: Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship

boris1gary — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:56:36 GMT

@silverfaun wrote:
Too late Bill, no credibility is your middle name.

Hot air and rhetoric, scare campaigns and what if's is all he's good for. Guillotining the rivers of money from the unions garnisheeing workers wages? We'll see.

"garnisheeing workers wages?" - what do you mean by this please?

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silverfaun — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:00:01 GMT

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freddie*rooster — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:02:07 GMT

@boris1gary wrote:
where is the "article" from?

Hard to say, isn't that Arthur Sin and Ashby drinking champane down in the honeymoon suite?

Re: Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship

boris1gary — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:20:08 GMT

silverfaun, excellent post, blank is great.

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lakeland27 — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:24:40 GMT

@freddie*rooster wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:
where is the "article" from?
Hard to say, isn't that Arthur Sin and Ashby drinking champane down in the honeymoon suite?

thats the poop deck i think.

Re: Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship

pixie-six — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:39:55 GMT

“Hello, everyone. This thread is getting a little off-topic. Could we please bring the discussion back to "Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship". Thanks!”

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pct001wine — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:45:50 GMT

Point of Order your Honour (aka Mod) - is a blank post deemed to be "off topic" ? It is I suppose neither "off topic" nor "on topic".

It exists in some nether-world of topicality. Mmmmm quite a dilemma.

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monman12 — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:57:48 GMT

"Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship"

I read it differently, especially as the ALP are finally considering allowing non union members joining, more a case of diluting the ship's stagnant bilge contents with an infusion of fresh membership.

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lakeland27 — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 04:06:16 GMT

odd. as a member of no union and the ALP simultaneously i find the article inaccurate.