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Racing Enquiry

jean2579 — Mon, 13 May 2013 04:19:08 GMT

Is anyone watching this. It is the best entertainment :^O.

Has the perfect cast, horses, colourful racing identities, the owner of a house of colourful reputation (don't think I am allowed to call it what it is), a jockey with a lot of previous suspensions, a retired footballer having memory troubles. Most of them suffering from selective amnesia. What more could you want. Hollywood could not dream up this lot.:-x

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j*oono — Mon, 13 May 2013 04:28:39 GMT

Yes 😄

What's the latest? Singo should buy Gai a great big bunch of roses.

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jean2579 — Mon, 13 May 2013 04:41:13 GMT

The footballer reckons the owner was drunk, the owner says he is misunderstood, the footballer says that he also had, had too much to drink and that he doesn't understand where the owner heard him say that he embellished the facts.

He doesn't know what the word means.

The jockeys solicitor is put out that he is not allowed to speak as he would like to "sink his fangs in someones throat".

They have just come back from lunch.

Pure Sydney.

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j*oono — Mon, 13 May 2013 04:46:49 GMT

Aussie royalty.

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just_me_karen — Mon, 13 May 2013 05:05:41 GMT

I feel a little disillusioned about all this. I really admire Gai Waterhouse, not because of her horse racing (can't stand animal cruelty in any form), but because she stood up against legal men and had our laws changed so that wives are not held responsible for their husband's crimes. She has also succeeded in a "man's" world, against the odds. Excuse the bad pun.

i was a total fan of Andrew Johns :_|

i don't know the dodgy jockey and I can't stand that sloshed singo,, but the other two I admire a lot and I don't want them to be naughty :^O

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jean2579 — Mon, 13 May 2013 05:20:48 GMT

Totally agree with your thoughts on Gai. She must be wondering what she has done to deserve this. If I were her I would be having strong thoughts on throttling someone.]:)

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viewmont1071 — Mon, 13 May 2013 06:08:55 GMT

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fsport%2Fhorseracing%2Fjohns-hayson-robinson-front-more-joyous-racing-inquiry-20130513-2jgwk.html&ei=HoOQUaPLFrCjiAeBroDYCg&usg=AFQjCNGXAP40jVI6BUAUgKaY8MA1HSQ03Q

Gai Waterhouse has been charged by stewards with failing to report the horse's condition.

Mrs Waterhouse denies the charge.

woops

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viewmont1071 — Mon, 13 May 2013 06:10:34 GMT

John Singleton has been charged with displaying conduct prejudicial to the image or the conduct of racing

- and he has pleaded guilty.

He says his behaviour at the All Aged Stakes was a "combination of factors", culminating in his anger at the rumours his horse was unfit to race and that others had known about it when he didn't.

He said his conduct that day was "inappropriate and regretful".

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just_me_karen — Mon, 13 May 2013 06:11:25 GMT

She also got charged with failing to keep vet notes. She says not guilty.

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jean2579 — Mon, 13 May 2013 06:26:14 GMT

The Son has let Mummy carry the can - classy!

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viewmont1071 — Mon, 13 May 2013 07:10:06 GMT

Singo got fined next week's lunch money 😐

...that's...

$15,000 for us commoners:-(

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lakeland27 — Mon, 13 May 2013 07:59:47 GMT

i dont know if they let mum take the rap so much as realise his licence is worth more than hers.

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the_great_she_elephant — Mon, 13 May 2013 08:19:45 GMT

I am amazed there is anyone out there who seriously believes the racing industry ever was, is or ever will be anything other than shonky.

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freddie*rooster — Mon, 13 May 2013 10:25:59 GMT

I agree she ele, personally I don't believe the truth came out in this enquiry, I can't believe Gai didn't tell Tom more joyous was a non goer. Andrew Johns was in fear of losing his job for channel 9, hence his lack of memory.

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colic2bullsgirlore — Mon, 13 May 2013 19:47:02 GMT

I agree she ele, personally I don't believe the truth came out in this enquiry, I can't believe Gai didn't tell Tom more joyous was a non goer. Andrew Johns was in fear of losing his job for channel 9, hence his lack of memory.

Of course he knew he confessed he laid off 300 grand (in a roundabout way) but would have held 10 times ( or more) that much on a beaten favourite

.... If he thought it had a chance to win he would have laid off much more

He made a big big quid on that non information

When a bookie "lays off" imbalances, what he or she is doing is making a bet with another bookie, usually one who deals with a larger volume of wagers, either by tacit agreement with the bookie in question, or just by having one of their associates set up an anonymous wager.

If they have, say, a $1000 imbalance in favor of horse A, and they want to reduce their risk, they can make a wager for $1000 on Horse A, on the best terms they can get. If horse A wins, their own winnings cover the payout they will give to whomever represents that $1000 imbalance.

If horse A loses, they collect the losers' wagers, plus the vigorish, and (hopefully) pay less vig to the bookie they owe. Usually, they don't want to do this, since chances are that you break even or lose a little bit of money (since the upstream bookie probably sees the same trend in his wagers, he's likely to not give very good terms).

However, in some cases, it's unavoidable.

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colic2bullsgirlore — Mon, 13 May 2013 19:53:45 GMT

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/media_release_archive?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGd3d3LmViaXoucG9saWNlLm5zdy5nb3YuYXUlMkZtZWRpYSUyRjMwMjE1Lmh0bWwmYWxsPTE%3D

This one will end up bigger than the Fine Cotton / Haden Haitana scam

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colic2bullsgirlore — Mon, 13 May 2013 20:32:09 GMT

Back in 1989 a friend of mine's father was owed $5000 and didnt look like getting it .

The guy offered him a half share in this horse Chime Zam so he took up the offer.

We "knew" when to back it.. they were hitting it with what was known back then as "the juice"

....won heaps especially on the 1990 Castlemaine...

Much later in his career we got the call ....it's "on" he was at 14/1 and I had 2000 to 8000. My friend (owners son) had 30k on the nose...we were well known "winners" and the local tab went wild... the line was out the door, across the road almost wending over to the main bar of the pub.

They jumped, giddy up, 1600 metre race...at the 400 metre mark Chime Zam was 12th... at the line, he was 14th... out of 16

...... well.....

you could hear a pin drop in that TAB and the eyes were sharp enough to kill. My mate screwed up his ticket and threw it in the bin with about three fire trucks being uttered and then walked away...

I can remember vividly to this day me still staring at the screen holding the most expensive piece of scrap paper I have ever owned (with the eyes of 60 or so disgruntled punters burning through the back of my head.)

At retirement he’d won 9 of 80, then was flat out throwing a winner to bless himself.

The horse won just over half a million in prizemoney stats below

CHIME ZAM (AUS) br. H, 1987 DP = 4-1-1-0-0 (6) DI = 11.00 CD = 1.50 - 80 Starts, 9 Wins, 10 Places, 10 Shows Career Earnings: A$511,135

Another common "trick" amongst greyhound owners is to shove a matchstick up the greyhounds clanger as they load it into the box... definitley not an enhancing move though...

you try and run with a matchstick stuck up an orifice when it should be "exit only"

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pct001wine — Mon, 13 May 2013 23:10:15 GMT

"I am amazed there is anyone out there who seriously believes the racing industry ever was, is or ever will be anything other than shonky."

Ditto TGSE, it's an industry full of spivs, charlatans, shady characters (sorry, "colourful racing identities") and shonks. How some folk define it as a "sport" is beyond me.

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dateless2010 — Tue, 14 May 2013 02:35:56 GMT

Interesting

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/missing-details-the-sanitisation-of-tom-waterhouses-wikipedia-page-20130514-2jjfh.html

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polksaladallie — Tue, 14 May 2013 06:04:31 GMT

I am amazed there is anyone out there who seriously believes the racing industry ever was, is or ever will be anything other than shonky.

Agree. I babysat for a jockey a long time ago, he could see that I was poor (see poor thread 😞 ), I used to take my children with me to babysitting jobs. He asked me one night did I want to know what horse I wanted to bet on tomorrow. I said no, probably because I had no money and because I didn't quite believe what he was saying.