https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1747087#M483904 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR />@am*3 wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="3"><STRONG>THE LIFE AND DEATH OF KEVIN CARTER</STRONG> </FONT><STRONG>Visiting Sudan, a little-known photographer took a picture that made the world weep. What happened afterward is a tragedy of another sort.</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>How could a man who had moved so many people with his work end up a suicide so soon after his great triumph? T<STRONG>he brief obituaries</STRONG> that appeared around the world suggested a morality tale about a person undone by the curse of fame. </SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>The details, however, show</STRONG> how fame was only the final, dramatic sting of a death foretold by Carter's personality, the pressure to be first where the action is, the fear that his pictures were never good enough, the existential lucidity that came to him from surviving violence again and again -<STRONG> and the drugs he used to banish that lucidity.</STRONG></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>&nbsp;If there is a paramount lesson to be drawn from Carter's meteoric rise and fall, it is that tragedy does not always have heroic dimensions.<STRONG> "I have always had it all at my feet," read the last words of his suicide note, "but being me just fit up anyway.</STRONG>"</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Though Carter insisted he loved his parents, he told his closest friends his childhood was unhappy.</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>...In 1980 Carter went absent without leave [SADF], rode a motorcycle to Durban and, calling himself David, became a disk jockey. He longed to see his family but felt too ashamed to return.<STRONG> One day after he lost his job, he swallowed scores of sleeping pills, pain-killers and rat poison. He survived.</STRONG> He returned to the S.A.D.F. to finish his service and was injured in 1983 while on guard duty at air force headquarters in Pretoria</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Sometimes it took more than a camera and camaraderie to get through the work. <STRONG>Marijuana, known locally as dagga, is widely available in South Africa. Carter and many other photojournalists smoked it habitually in the townships, partly to relieve tension and partly to bond with gun-toting street warriors. Although he denied it, Carter, like many hard-core dagga users, moved on to something more dangerous: smoking the "white pipe,"</STRONG> ," a mixture of dagga and Mandrax, a banned tranquilizer containing methaqualone. It provides an intense, immediate kick and then allows the user to mellow out for an hour or two.&nbsp;a mixture of dagga and Mandrax, a banned tranquilizer containing methaqualone. It provides an intense, immediate kick and then allows the user to mellow out for an hour or two.</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The troubles started on March 11. Carter was covering the unsuccessful invasion of Bophuthatswana by white right-wing vigilantes intent on propping up a black homeland, a showcase of apartheid. Carter found himself just feet away from the summary execution of right-wingers by a black "Bop" policeman. "Lying in the middle of the gunfight," he said, "I was wondering about which millisecond next I was going to die, about putting something on film they could use as my last picture."</P><P>His pictures would eventually be splashed across front pages around the world, but he came away from the scene in a funk. First, there was the horror of having witnessed murder. Perhaps as importantly, while a few colleagues had framed the scene perfectly, Carter was reloading his camera with film just as the executions took place. "I knew I had missed this f--- shot," he said subsequently. "I drank a bottle of bourbon that night."</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>At the same time, he seemed to be stepping up his drug habit, including smoking the white pipe. A week after the Bop executions, he was seen staggering around while on assignment at a Mandela rally in Johannesburg. Later he crashed his car into a suburban house and was thrown in jail for 10 hours on suspicion of drunken drivin</STRONG>g. His superior at Reuter was furious at having to go to the police station to recover Carter's film of the Mandela event. Carter's girlfriend, Kathy Davidson, a schoolteacher, was even more upset. Drugs had become a growing issue in their one-year relationship. Over Easter, she asked Carter to move out until he cleaned up his life.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>With the Pulitzer, however, he had to deal not only with acclaim but also with the critical focus that comes with fame. <STRONG>Some journalists in South Africa called his prize a "fluke," alleging that he had somehow set up the tableau. Others questioned his ethics.</STRONG> "The man adjusting his lens to take just the right frame of her suffering," said the St. Petersburg (Florida) Times, "might just as well be a predator, another vulture on the scene."<STRONG> Even some of Carter's friends wondered aloud why he had not helped the girl.</STRONG></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>According to friends, Carter began talking openly about suicide. Part of his anxiety was over the Mitterrand assignment. But mostly he seemed worried about money and making ends meet.</STRONG></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The last person to see Carter alive, it seems, was Oosterbroek's widow, Monica. As night fell, Carter turned up unannounced at her home to vent his troubles. Still recovering from her husband's death three months earlier, she was in little condition to offer counsel. They parted at about 5:30 p.m.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The Braamfonteinspruit is a small river that cuts southward through Johannesburg's northern suburbs - and through Parkmore, where the Carters once lived. At around 9 p.m., Kevin Carter backed his red Nissan pickup truck against a blue gum tree at the Field and Study Center. He had played there often as a little boy</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A target="_blank" href="http://www.thisisyesterday.com/ints/KCarter.html">http://www.thisisyesterday.com/ints/KCarter.html</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>seriously?? &nbsp;you chose not to highlight the&nbsp;</P><P>important parts??? the underlying&nbsp;cause of&nbsp;</P><P>it all ?? &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<U>how the troubles started ??</U> &nbsp;<img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.png" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="3"><STRONG>THE LIFE AND DEATH OF KEVIN CARTER</STRONG> </FONT><STRONG>Visiting Sudan, a little-known photographer took a picture that made the world weep. What happened afterward is a tragedy of another sort.</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>How could a man who had moved so many people with his work end up a suicide so soon after his great triumph? The brief obituaries</STRONG> <STRONG>that appeared around the world suggested a morality tale about a person undone by the curse of fame.</STRONG></SPAN></P><P><STRONG>&nbsp;</STRONG></P><P><SPAN><STRONG>The details, however, show</STRONG> <STRONG>how fame was only the final, dramatic sting of a death foretold by Carter's personality, the pressure to be first where the action is, the fear that his pictures were never good enough, the existential lucidity that came to him from surviving violence again and again - and the drugs he used to banish that lucidity.</STRONG></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>&nbsp;If there is a paramount lesson to be drawn from Carter's meteoric rise and fall, it is that tragedy does not always have heroic dimensions. "I have always had it all at my feet," read the last words of his suicide note, "but being me just fit up anyway.</STRONG>"</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>Though Carter insisted he loved his parents, he told his closest friends his childhood was unhappy.</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>&nbsp;</STRONG></P><P><SPAN><STRONG>...In 1980 Carter went absent without leave [SADF], rode a motorcycle to Durban and, calling himself David, became a disk jockey. He longed to see his family but felt too ashamed to return. One day after he lost his job, he swallowed scores of sleeping pills, pain-killers and rat poison. He survived.</STRONG> <STRONG>He returned to the S.A.D.F. to finish his service and was injured in 1983 while on guard duty at air force headquarters in Pretoria</STRONG></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>Sometimes it took more than a camera and camaraderie to get through the work. Marijuana, known locally as dagga, is widely available in South Africa. Carter and many other photojournalists smoked it habitually in the townships, partly to relieve tension and partly to bond with gun-toting street warriors. Although he denied it, Carter, like many hard-core dagga users, moved on to something more dangerous: smoking the "white pipe," ," a mixture of dagga and Mandrax, a banned tranquilizer containing methaqualone. It provides an intense, immediate kick and then allows the user to mellow out for an hour or two.&nbsp;a mixture of dagga and Mandrax, a banned tranquilizer containing methaqualone. It provides an intense, immediate kick and then allows the user to mellow out for an hour or two.</STRONG></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>The troubles started on March 11. Carter was covering the unsuccessful invasion of Bophuthatswana by white right-wing vigilantes intent on propping up a black homeland, a showcase of apartheid. Carter found himself just feet away from the summary execution of right-wingers by a black "Bop" policeman. "Lying in the middle of the gunfight," he said, "I was wondering about which millisecond next I was going to die, about putting something on film they could use as my last picture."</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>His pictures would eventually be splashed across front pages around the world, but he came away from the scene in a funk. First, there was the horror of having witnessed murder. Perhaps as importantly, while a few colleagues had framed the scene perfectly, Carter was reloading his camera with film just as the executions took place. "I knew I had missed this f--- shot," he said subsequently. "I drank a bottle of bourbon that night."</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>&nbsp;</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>At the same time, he seemed to be stepping up his drug habit, including smoking the white pipe. A week after the Bop executions, he was seen staggering around while on assignment at a Mandela rally in Johannesburg. Later he crashed his car into a suburban house and was thrown in jail for 10 hours on suspicion of drunken drivin</STRONG>g.<STRONG> His superior at Reuter was furious at having to go to the police station to recover Carter's film of the Mandela event. Carter's girlfriend, Kathy Davidson, a schoolteacher, was even more upset. Drugs had become a growing issue in their one-year relationship. Over Easter, she asked Carter to move out until he cleaned up his life.</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>&nbsp;</STRONG></P><P><SPAN><STRONG>With the Pulitzer, however, he had to deal not only with acclaim but also with the critical focus that comes with fame.</STRONG> <STRONG>Some journalists in South Africa called his prize a "fluke," alleging that he had somehow set up the tableau. Others questioned his ethics.</STRONG> "<STRONG>The man adjusting his lens to take just the right frame of her suffering," said the St. Petersburg (Florida) Times, "might just as well be a predator, another vulture on the scene." Even some of Carter's friends wondered aloud why he had not helped the girl.</STRONG></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>According to friends, Carter began talking openly about suicide. Part of his anxiety was over the Mitterrand assignment. But mostly he seemed worried about money and making ends meet.</STRONG></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>The last person to see Carter alive, it seems, was Oosterbroek's widow, Monica. As night fell, Carter turned up unannounced at her home to vent his troubles. Still recovering from her husband's death three months earlier, she was in little condition to offer counsel. They parted at about 5:30 p.m.</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>&nbsp;</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>The Braamfonteinspruit is a small river that cuts southward through Johannesburg's northern suburbs - and through Parkmore, where the Carters once lived. At around 9 p.m., Kevin Carter backed his red Nissan pickup truck against a blue gum tree at the Field and Study Center. He had played there often as a little boy</STRONG></P> Thu, 12 Mar 2015 01:04:12 GMT Anonymous 2015-03-12T01:04:12Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746225#M483462 <P>My favourite pic today</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Please share&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><IMG title="hunger.jpg" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/71604iBCD025F440179870/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="hunger.jpg" /></P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 02:34:33 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746225#M483462 donnashuggy 2015-03-11T02:34:33Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746230#M483466 <P><IMG width="570" src="http://i2.wp.com/www.glitzyworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Vulture-Stalking-a-Child.jpg?resize=700%2C467" border="0" alt="Vulture Stalking a Starving Child" height="380" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The Pulitzer Prize winning image shows a girl who was exhausted and taking a break while on her way to a feeding center. Kevin Carter took about 20 minutes to get the shot of the vulture and the baby in focus without scaring off the vulture. In that time, Kevin Carter was moved so much at what had transpired that he later took his own life.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The photograph was sold to The New York Times where it appeared for the first time on March 26, 1993 as ‘<FONT size="3"><STRONG>metaphor for Africa’s despair</STRONG>’.</FONT></P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 02:41:39 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746230#M483466 Anonymous 2015-03-11T02:41:39Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746246#M483473 <P>he watched the poor little kid for 20 minutes just to get a photo???????</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 02:55:38 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746246#M483473 the*scarlet*pimpernel 2015-03-11T02:55:38Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746255#M483479 <P>Donna-that first pic on this thread should be shown on the walls -while</P><P>folk are grazing on the $525.00 feed at those ..Fat Duck places...................Richo.</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 03:02:59 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746255#M483479 serendipityricho 2015-03-11T03:02:59Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746257#M483481 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/671113">@serendipityricho</a> wrote:<BR /><P>Donna-that first pic on this thread should be shown on the walls -while</P><P>folk are grazing on the $525.00 feed at those ..Fat Duck places...................Richo.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You wouldn't get a job as a marketing manager richo lol</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 03:05:30 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746257#M483481 donnashuggy 2015-03-11T03:05:30Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746267#M483487 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/415937">@the*scarlet*pimpernel</a> wrote:<BR /><P>he watched the poor little kid for 20 minutes just to get a photo???????</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>i should've posted the whole story:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Carter reported taking the picture, because it was his "job title", and living. He was told not to touch the children for fear of transmitting disease. &nbsp;<A target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter</A></SPAN></P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 03:10:37 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746267#M483487 Anonymous 2015-03-11T03:10:37Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746272#M483489 <BR />And photographers should not insert themselves into the photo or environment. if they do it once, why not every time ?<BR /><BR />Hence photos of disasters when some might say they should help.<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR /> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 03:13:09 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746272#M483489 vicr3000 2015-03-11T03:13:09Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746296#M483502 <P>If he was so affected way did he not help the kid get to the centre instead of waiting for a bloody Vulture !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 03:31:53 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746296#M483502 lionrose.7 2015-03-11T03:31:53Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746324#M483520 <P>More like he was scared of contracting a disease.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>Nothing</STRONG> would have stopped me from scooping up that child (BTW it was not a baby) and taking him/her to safety.</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 03:50:36 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746324#M483520 polksaladallie 2015-03-11T03:50:36Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746337#M483528 <P><STRONG><EM>More like he was scared of contracting a disease.</EM></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>i think you misunderstood.</SPAN></P><P><SPAN>it was the child with weak immune system.</SPAN></P><P>he would have been vaccinated.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 03:59:48 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746337#M483528 Anonymous 2015-03-11T03:59:48Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746350#M483534 <P>I do not misunderstand lack of compassion.</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:08:08 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746350#M483534 polksaladallie 2015-03-11T04:08:08Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746352#M483535 <BR />But Polks<BR /><BR />You aren't a professional photographer.<BR /><BR /><BR />And as said above, if you insert yourself by picking up the kid,<BR />bearing in mind the kids parent is nearby, then you might compound<BR />the problem through disease.<BR /><BR /> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:10:34 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746352#M483535 vicr3000 2015-03-11T04:10:34Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746356#M483538 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/610624">@polksaladallie</a> wrote:<BR /><P>More like he was scared of contracting a disease.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>Nothing</STRONG> would have stopped me from scooping up that child (BTW it was not a baby) and taking him/her to safety.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:16:11 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746356#M483538 polksaladallie 2015-03-11T04:16:11Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746357#M483539 <P><STRONG><EM>Nothing would have stopped me from scooping up that child (BTW it was not a baby) and taking him/her to safety.</EM></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>wow...now i regret posting the photo.</SPAN></P><P>seems the powerful message was lost here -</P><P>didnt think it was possible. &nbsp;<img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.png" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>the photographer&nbsp;was there accompanying the UN.</SPAN></P><P>he was not there alone...he was told not to&nbsp;</P><P>touch the children..the vulture did not hurt</P><P>the child. &nbsp;he chased it away. &nbsp;(the child was a girl)</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:16:20 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746357#M483539 Anonymous 2015-03-11T04:16:20Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746360#M483541 <BR />Polks<BR /><BR />You don't get it.<BR /><BR />He was told not to touch the kids for a very valid reason,<BR />the kids health and safety.<BR /><BR />Would you want to be responsible for giving them a disease ?<BR /><BR /> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:20:51 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746360#M483541 vicr3000 2015-03-11T04:20:51Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746364#M483545 <P>that is such an iconic photo.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>i have NEVER read such bizarre&nbsp;reactions to it&nbsp;<img id="womanfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-womanfrustrated" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_woman-frustrated.png" alt="Woman Frustrated" title="Woman Frustrated" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:23:02 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746364#M483545 Anonymous 2015-03-11T04:23:02Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746365#M483546 <P><STRONG><EM>Nothing would have stopped me from scooping up that child (BTW it was not a baby) and taking him/her to safety.</EM></STRONG></P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:23:19 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746365#M483546 polksaladallie 2015-03-11T04:23:19Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746367#M483548 <BR />Nor me.<BR /><BR />That photo would have far more effect world wide than picking up the kid.<BR /><BR />And professional photographers get criticised for getting involved,<BR />inserting themselves into the scene.<BR /><BR /> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:25:23 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746367#M483548 vicr3000 2015-03-11T04:25:23Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746374#M483551 <P>Sorry I agree with Polks, I am a mother and I could not bare this, dont touch the kid then but bring her some food.</P><P>I would perfer to see a photo of some one feeding that child.</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:28:27 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746374#M483551 lionrose.7 2015-03-11T04:28:27Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746375#M483552 <P>Gee, I wonder what would have happened in Rwanda if the Australians, who I know were there, walked past sick and injured children.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I wonder if they stopped and took photos.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:30:54 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Hunger/m-p/1746375#M483552 polksaladallie 2015-03-11T04:30:54Z