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Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

icyfroth — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 06:19:35 GMT

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten's push for reform of the ALP has been thwarted in his home state of Victoria.

Mr Shorten's promise to slash union sway in parliamentary preselections has been declared "dead in the water" by factional chiefs ahead of the state conference this month.

Mr Shorten on Wednesday all but conceded defeat on his push to increase the influence of party members on preselections saying "change takes time". "I believe it is absolutely necessary to rebuild Labor as a party of members; a party where more people are involved, more often," he said.

This week, factional leaders were adamant they would not back Mr Shorten's proposal to give local party members a 70 per cent say in preselections, up from the current 50:50 split between local branches and Labor's central selection panel. "It [the 70 per cent proposal] is dead in the water," one senior right-wing powerbroker said.

One union leader slammed the 70:30 idea, pointing out that it would simply transfer power from the affiliated unions to "branch-stackers".

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Poor Mr Shorten. HIs only idea for the Party of Ideas, and it gets slammed. TskTsk.

Re: Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

cherry*135 — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 06:21:03 GMT

Gosh, I think Pyne et al's failed proposals/backdowns are far more embarrassing the Govt than what the Leader of the Oppostion is up to.

Re: Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

watta*drama*queen — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 06:37:43 GMT

Of course you would !

That is not the topic though

Re: Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

dellynt — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 02:05:38 GMT

Looks like you had lemons for breakfast

Re: Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

cherry*135 — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 02:10:17 GMT

@konadely wrote:
Looks like you had lemons for breakfast

Do you have a looking glass?

Re: Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

cherry*135 — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 02:11:49 GMT

Not much interest here, about Shorten dead reform... I wonder why that is?

Re: Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

gleee58 — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 02:52:33 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:

Poor Mr Shorten. HIs only idea for the Party of Ideas, and it gets slammed. TskTsk.

Just out of curiosity, how does Liberal party and national party preselection work?

Do they review their party's processes from time to time?

What makes you think it's his only idea?

Re: Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

gkam2 — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:30:35 GMT

@gleee58 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:

Poor Mr Shorten. HIs only idea for the Party of Ideas, and it gets slammed. TskTsk.

Just out of curiosity, how does Liberal party and national party preselection work?

Do they review their party's processes from time to time?

What makes you think it's his only idea?

Whoa, you mean he had an idea?

Re: Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

icyfroth — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:52:04 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
@konadely wrote:
Looks like you had lemons for breakfast

Do you have a looking glass?

We call it a mirror in Australia

Re: Shorten's Key ALP Reform 'Dead In The Water'

tezza2844 — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:49:09 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
@konadely wrote:
Looks like you had lemons for breakfast

Do you have a looking glass?

We call it a mirror in Australia

A mirror ?, just like the ones in the amusement arcade at Luna Park