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Who do they think they are..

tommy.irene — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 09:56:02 GMT

This from men who didnt have sex yet..

Catholics can now remarry after they are divorced, senior cardinals say... but only if they abstain from sex Proposal was put forward by a group of 11 senior Catholic leaders Made it as backlash against Pope Francis’ attempt to give divorcees a fast-track route to forgiveness Likely to add to the confusion and pain felt by many divorced Catholic Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3230133/Catholics-remarry-divorced-senior-cardinals-say-abstain-sex.html#ixzz3lQDMxH2I

Re: Who do they think they are..

azureline** — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:12:46 GMT

Catholics have always been allowed to remarry after divorcing.......there are and always have been, ways of doing so.

Re: Who do they think they are..

cmcoins2000 — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:20:26 GMT

@azureline** wrote:
Catholics have always been allowed to remarry after divorcing.......there are and always have been, ways of doing so.

That - perhaps - is only since the Catholic Church granted anyone a divorce.

Re: Who do they think they are..

bushies.girl — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:28:39 GMT

My late mother was RC and divorced, she was refused permission to re marry in an RC church, I am also RC and wanted to re marry in the local RC church, permission was refused .... so they have NOT always been allowed

Re: Who do they think they are..

cmcoins2000 — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:36:13 GMT

bushies.girl wrote:

Begs the question then Bushie - what was the point of granting a so called ' divorce '

Only to be forsaken by the religion - you were brought up in - the religion of your parents - parents who were also denied.

Harsh to say the least.

Re: Who do they think they are..

azureline** — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:51:57 GMT

@bushies.girl wrote:
My late mother was RC and divorced, she was refused permission to re marry in an RC church, I am also RC and wanted to re marry in the local RC church, permission was refused .... so they have NOT always been allowed

Yes, they have........ there are dispensations........ you can also apply to the Vatican for permission to annul the first marriage.

Re: Who do they think they are..

janeababe — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:54:46 GMT

@bushies.girl wrote:
My late mother was RC and divorced, she was refused permission to re marry in an RC church, I am also RC and wanted to re marry in the local RC church, permission was refused .... so they have NOT always been allowed

One way to be allowed to re-marry in the Catholic church, you had to apply to the church to have your previous RC marriage anulled....

well, thats what my cousins' husband had to do, so that they could get married in the RC church.
His previous marriage was for 13yrs and produced 3 kids. I dont think its right. (JMO)

Re: Who do they think they are..

bushies.girl — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:00:00 GMT

NO they haven't, each case is different and permission is not always granted or are you an "expert" on every case?

Re: Who do they think they are..

bushies.girl — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:01:29 GMT

My late mother was NOT allowed to re marry in the RC church

Re: Who do they think they are..

azureline** — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:01:53 GMT

You must have misread my post..........

I don't need to be an expert at anything......

I have family members who have done this.......... I have been a witness twice for annulments...... once for a friend, once for a family member.

Just because your experience is different does not mean there are not ways of remarrying.

Re: Who do they think they are..

bushies.girl — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:03:32 GMT

I didnt misread anything lol

Re: Who do they think they are..

azureline** — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:03:52 GMT

@cmcoins2000 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
Catholics have always been allowed to remarry after divorcing.......there are and always have been, ways of doing so.
That - perhaps - is only since the Catholic Church granted anyone a divorce.

The Catholic Church does not grant divorces. That's a civil matter.

Re: Who do they think they are..

nevynreally — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:04:04 GMT

If it wasn't on Facebook, didn't happen.

Re: Who do they think they are..

azureline** — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:08:32 GMT

@janeababe wrote:
@bushies.girl wrote:
My late mother was RC and divorced, she was refused permission to re marry in an RC church, I am also RC and wanted to re marry in the local RC church, permission was refused .... so they have NOT always been allowed
One way to be allowed to re-marry in the Catholic church, you had to apply to the church to have your previous RC marriage anulled....

well, thats what my cousins' husband had to do, so that they could get married in the RC church.
His previous marriage was for 13yrs and produced 3 kids. I dont think its right. (JMO)

You could also do it if you did not marry in the RC Church the first time.

Annulments declare that a marriage was never a valid sacrament in the first place even if both parties entered into it with good faith and intentions.

Re: Who do they think they are..

bushies.girl — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:08:51 GMT

The RC seems to make up the rules to suit itself .... one of the most corrupt denominations around

Re: Who do they think they are..

cmcoins2000 — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:08:56 GMT

@azureline** wrote:
@cmcoins2000 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
Catholics have always been allowed to remarry after divorcing.......there are and always have been, ways of doing so.
That - perhaps - is only since the Catholic Church granted anyone a divorce.

The Catholic Church does not grant divorces. That's a civil matter.

If I may be so bold.

What is an ANNULLMENT - if not a divorce.

A rose by any other name.

Etc, ect,

Re: Who do they think they are..

azureline** — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:09:36 GMT

@bushies.girl wrote:
The RC seems to make up the rules to suit itself .... one of the most corrupt denominations around

Generally, all Churches do that......... just like groups, clubs etc.

Re: Who do they think they are..

nevynreally — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:10:43 GMT

@janeababe wrote:
@bushies.girl wrote:
My late mother was RC and divorced, she was refused permission to re marry in an RC church, I am also RC and wanted to re marry in the local RC church, permission was refused .... so they have NOT always been allowed
One way to be allowed to re-marry in the Catholic church, you had to apply to the church to have your previous RC marriage anulled....

well, thats what my cousins' husband had to do, so that they could get married in the RC church.
His previous marriage was for 13yrs and produced 3 kids. I dont think its right. (JMO)

I have never understood that about the Catholic Church, if you basically deny the existance of your previous family, you can marry again and have our blessing.

Re: Who do they think they are..

azureline** — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:10:44 GMT

@cmcoins2000 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
@cmcoins2000 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
Catholics have always been allowed to remarry after divorcing.......there are and always have been, ways of doing so.
That - perhaps - is only since the Catholic Church granted anyone a divorce.

The Catholic Church does not grant divorces. That's a civil matter.
If I may be so bold.

What is an ANNULLMENT - if not a divorce.

A rose by any other name.

Etc, ect,

Civil divorce ends a civil marriage; a Church annulment declares that the Sacrament of Matrimony didn’t occur

Re: Who do they think they are..

bushies.girl — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:12:21 GMT

One is approved by the church, the other by the state .... the RC church "bends" the rules to suit itself lol