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Some people should be executed

martinw-48 — Sun, 09 Jun 2019 08:17:17 GMT

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-09/childcare-centre-chickens-stolen-and-set-on-fire/11194508?pfmredir=sm

Re: Some people should be executed

wide-world-of-stamps — Sun, 09 Jun 2019 08:34:16 GMT

The sort of person who does that will probably graduate to attacks on people.

They will never be "cured" through the system.

They should never be released (unfortunately execution isn't an option any more).

Re: Some people should be executed

Anonymous — Sun, 09 Jun 2019 08:39:19 GMT

Since we can no longer 'delete' pieces of tripe like this, use them for experiments and testing usually conducted on animals

Of course that will never be allowed either,no matter how much of an atrocious,low life waste of space scum they might be 'it's not nice' for them to get what they deserve

Re: Some people should be executed

springyzone — Sun, 09 Jun 2019 20:00:18 GMT

People who do this are probably going to end up violent with other humans too.

I used to be against execution & I don't know that I would like to see it used necessarily in a case like this, but I have slowly come around to the idea that perhaps it has a place for the most violent, most malicious or evil of offenders, where it is definitely proven they are the guilty ones.

I know social workers and the lawyers like to argue sad upbringing causes all the problems but I think in a very few people, they are born with a few wrong genes and nothing will change that.

Re: Some people should be executed

davidc4430 — Sun, 09 Jun 2019 20:43:35 GMT

i have allways felt the death penalty should be on the table for the worst of crimes that can be proven without doubt.

of course this person is a dispickable lowlife, but its not a crime requireing death.

however this guy does deserve it

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-10/bourke-street-attack-making-of-killer-james-gargasoulas/11133576

Re: Some people should be executed

martinw-48 — Sun, 09 Jun 2019 21:17:41 GMT

Most murders start out hurting animals.
The chicken burners could be Australia's next most deadly murdering psycho.
That James is a perfect example.
One life ended early would have saved six and stopped all the trauma for a huge amount of people

Re: Some people should be executed

travlyn2012 — Mon, 10 Jun 2019 00:22:08 GMT

I thought it was serial killers/mass murders that usually start with animals.

Re: Some people should be executed

davidc4430 — Mon, 10 Jun 2019 01:06:27 GMT

most murders are unplanned i believe, spur of the moment.

i think anyone on trial for muder should have their 'history' revealed to the court at the begining of a trial, not after the trial but before sentencing. include manslaughter in that too.

in fact in any case for any crime, if ya have a prior conviction(s) or even charge(s) the jury/judges should know right from the get go.

full disclosure

Re: Some people should be executed

icyfroth — Mon, 10 Jun 2019 01:49:31 GMT

I think the death penalty would be a bit harsh.

But a public flogging would be appropriate.

IMO...

Re: Some people should be executed

travlyn2012 — Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:15:54 GMT

David,

Don't agree with that, the jury is meant to impartial and to reach a verdict based on the evidence

of the case for which the defendant is charged.

A system as you suggest would contaminate the jury and would not allow a fair trial.

This could lead to innocent people being convicted because of a past conviction/s.

I don't always agree with the system, but in saying that,

perhaps a system that allows for the jury to hear of past criminal convictions after a guilty

verdict has been reached and to allow them to put to the court a sentence recommendation.

Re: Some people should be executed

springyzone — Mon, 10 Jun 2019 21:16:44 GMT

I've thought about this in the past and I find it extremely difficult to decide if a past criminal history should be disclosed before a trial.

On the one hand, you have human nature, where some people might pre-judge.

But on the other hand, I am not sure it is perfectly fair on the victims, when you get someone who can go around raping or invading homes or bashing, and that past history is never 'put together', as it were. is a jury really seeing an action in context? I don't think so.

I don't have any answers by the way.

I don't know that i am 100% happy with the jury system anyway. And I am definitely not 100% happy with the way some people in the system are sentenced. And I am appalled at what is actually going on in the jail system.