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A Little Bit Of Megxit Humour.

the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 01:49:59 GMT

I have nothing against Harry and Meghan - in fact I applaud them for wanting to cut their ties with the Royal family and earn their own living - but a letter in today's West Australian suggesting Hary should be made Governor General of Australia reminded me of a poem by Hilaire Belloc.

You can read the whole poem here: https://monologues.co.uk/Childrens_Favourites/Lord_Lundy.htm but the extracts that really tickled my funny bone were the following:

Lord Lundy from his earliest years

Was far too freely moved to Tears.

. . . . . . . . . . .

His Grandmamma, His Mother's (or in Harry's case of course Father's) Mother,

Who had some dignity or other,

The Garter, or no matter what,

I can't remember all the Lot!

Said "Oh! That I were Brisk and Spry

To give him that for which to cry!"

(An empty wish, alas! For she

Was Blind and nearly ninety-three).

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .

The Duke -- his aged grand-sire -- bore

The shame till he could bear no more.

He rallied his declining powers,

Summoned the youth to Brackley Towers,

And bitterly addressed him thus--

"Sir! you have disappointed us!

We had intended you to be

The next Prime Minister but three:

The stocks were sold; the Press was squared:

The Middle Class was quite prepared.

But as it is! . . . My language fails!

Go out and govern New South Wales!"

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lyhargr_0 — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 01:55:02 GMT

Oh I so hope he is made GG or anything else here in OZ

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imastawka — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 02:00:37 GMT

I don't think the $425,000 salary would be enough for this pair of spendthrifts.

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the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 02:12:35 GMT

I don't think Harry would want the job anyway - it would be just more meaningless ceremonial duties.

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imastawka — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 02:15:44 GMT

@lyhargr_0 wrote:
Oh I so hope he is made GG or anything else here in OZ

Is or isn't?

Wouldn't have picked you for a Royalist.

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not_for_sale — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 02:16:10 GMT

Many years ago there was a news video of the Queen returning home to Heathrow. Her young son (Charles I think) ran towards her to give her a hug. She basically ignored him and kept walking because it was "protocol". That video still disturbs me and I wonder how that family could ever have genuine family relationships. I fully understand what Harry and Meghan are doing.

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halfgweilo — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 02:56:01 GMT

There is nothing wrong with opening a sub-branch in Canada. Many big firms has them. In this case, what is there for for Harry & Meghan to do there? Maybe join the Canadian Mounties. It's no wonder that the Canadian Press has already express their disapproval, who is going to pay for their security expenses to the tune of of one million dollars plus per annum?

Poor Great-grandma has to listen very carefully when Archie speaks, with his new adopted somewhat American accent. Domestic problems should be dealt at home, I say.

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domino-710 — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 03:03:48 GMT

Interesting :

News that Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, planned to step back from their royal duties and spend at least part of their time in Canada has prompted a question: How can the pair gain financial independence in a country where it appears neither has the right to live and work?

“In order to become legal permanent residents of Canada, they would need to apply through our normal immigration processes,” said Béatrice Fénelon, a spokeswoman for Canada’s immigration agency. “However, members of the royal family are not required to seek authorization to come and stay in Canada as visitors.”

She did not respond to questions on whether Harry and Meghan could stay indefinitely as “visitors.”

As tourists traveling on British (Harry) or American (Meghan) passports, they could stay in Canada for up to six months, but then they’d be expected to leave. And without work permits — which can be complicated to get without job offers — they would have difficulty earning a living.

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the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 03:35:27 GMT

It is worth remembering that all the 'experts' who are offering their opinions are relying purely on speculation and guessworrk. It is quite conceivable that Harry and Meghan already have detailed plans well in hand and that these plans are already known to those who need to know them

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imastawka — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 03:47:10 GMT

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the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 04:13:00 GMT

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domino-710 — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 04:33:30 GMT

Would you like ~~chips~~ fries with that. ????

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lyndal1838 — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 07:05:14 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
It is worth remembering that all the 'experts' who are offering their opinions are relying purely on speculation and guessworrk. It is quite conceivable that Harry and Meghan already have detailed plans well in hand and that these plans are already known to those who need to know them

Not quite she-ele.

My OHs cousin is a Constitutional Lawyer and according to him the Canadian Constitution as it stands will not allow Harry and Megan to live permanently in Canada.

Apparently members of the Royal Family can visit when invited and have their security expenses covered. They can come for a holiday as M & H have done but their security expenses were covered by the UK..... but they cannot live permanently in Canada under any circumstances.....some quirk of the Canadian Constitution.

If they somehow managed to circumvent that part of the Constitution Harry would not be accepted as a Permanent Resident as he would not have the educational and/or the work history.....he has not had any sort of job training to equip him to work in Canada.

If they wanted to apply for Permanent Residency Megan would have to be the applicant with Harry and Archie listed as dependents.

And on top of all the legal obstacles the Canadian people are not happy that Trudeau has supposedly assured the Queen that Canada will foot the bill for their security.

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joztamps — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 07:22:02 GMT

@lyndal1838 wrote:
If they somehow managed to circumvent that part of the Constitution Harry would not be accepted as a Permanent Resident as he would not have the educational and/or the work history.....he has not had any sort of job training to equip him to work in Canada.
If they wanted to apply for Permanent Residency Megan would have to be the applicant with Harry and Archie listed as dependents.

And on top of all the legal obstacles the Canadian people are not happy that Trudeau has supposedly assured the Queen that Canada will foot the bill for their security.

Funny old world, where her work as a soapie TV actress counts, but his extensive military training and service doesn't.

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the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 07:23:06 GMT

But that still presupposes that those questions have not already been raised and sorted out in private. I imagine if they gave up their royal titles they would have the same right as anyone else to apply for Canadian citzenship or at least permanent residency (which is what I have in Australia. Wouldn't his time in the army count? Also, if they spend part of each year in Britain they wouldn't be permanent residents anyway.

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joztamps — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 07:23:52 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
But that still presupposes that those questions have not already been raised and sorted out in private. I imagine if they gave up their royal titles they would have the same right as anyone else to apply for Canadian citzenship or at least permanent residency (which is what I have in Australia. Also, if they spend part of each year in Britain they wouldn't be permanent residents anyway.

They won't give up their titles, they've applied worldwide to copyright them witrh the aim, presumably, of exploiting them commercially.

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the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 07:30:10 GMT

The brandname thy have copyrighted is "Sussexroyal" or something similar - that is not a title.

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domino-710 — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 07:43:20 GMT

@lyndal1838 wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
It is worth remembering that all the 'experts' who are offering their opinions are relying purely on speculation and guessworrk. It is quite conceivable that Harry and Meghan already have detailed plans well in hand and that these plans are already known to those who need to know them
Not quite she-ele.
My OHs cousin is a Constitutional Lawyer and according to him the Canadian Constitution as it stands will not allow Harry and Megan to live permanently in Canada.

Apparently members of the Royal Family can visit when invited and have their security expenses covered. They can come for a holiday as M & H have done but their security expenses were covered by the UK..... but they cannot live permanently in Canada under any circumstances.....some quirk of the Canadian Constitution.

If they somehow managed to circumvent that part of the Constitution Harry would not be accepted as a Permanent Resident as he would not have the educational and/or the work history.....he has not had any sort of job training to equip him to work in Canada.
If they wanted to apply for Permanent Residency Megan would have to be the applicant with Harry and Archie listed as dependents.

And on top of all the legal obstacles the Canadian people are not happy that Trudeau has supposedly assured the Queen that Canada will foot the bill for their security.

Thanks Lyndal - had read that also - hence my comments.

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lyndal1838 — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 08:06:04 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
But that still presupposes that those questions have not already been raised and sorted out in private. I imagine if they gave up their royal titles they would have the same right as anyone else to apply for Canadian citzenship or at least permanent residency (which is what I have in Australia. Wouldn't his time in the army count? Also, if they spend part of each year in Britain they wouldn't be permanent residents anyway.
They can't "sort" anything without changing the Constitution....and I am pretty sure that cannot be done i private. As it stands now they have no right at all to live in Canada....they cannot apply for residency..

I cannot see them giving up their titles......and Harry cannot give up being a Prince.....he was born a Prince.
Frankly I would like to see the Queen remove the Sussex title.....Princess Harry or Princess Henry is not nearly as classy as Duchess of Sussex.

I wondered about Harry's armey service too but the conversation went onto other family matters and I did not get a chance to ask.

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the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 18 Jan 2020 08:10:32 GMT

Food for thought .Time will tell I guess. It will be interesting to see what eventally happens.

I guess the silver spoon in the mouth can easily turn into a millstone round the neck.