topic Re: Next time you fill a script ... in Community Spirit

Next time you fill a script ...

rogevibe — Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:54:29 GMT

Is a little humbling , after sneaking a price comparison

Chloroquine (Plaguenil)

Australia 100 x 200g tabs

https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/7160/Plaquenil-200mg-Tablets-100

Elsewhere over the pond 100 x 250g tabs

https://www.goodrx.com/chloroquine-phosphate?dosage=250mg&form=tablet&label_override=chloroquine+phosphate&quantity=100

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

davewil1964 — Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:24:38 GMT

I don't have malaria or COVID-19, so I don't have a prescription.

Nor, I imagine, do most Australians.

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

hannahmallory — Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:06:57 GMT

Then you have your eyes closed. People are worried about their prescriptions. Not for malaria or covid-19 but elderly people here are relying on prescription medication and they are a little bit frightened..

I don't like the idea of people buying their medication online. It's safer in your own community.

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

viewmont1071 — Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:19:20 GMT

I have taken plaquenil (and quinate) for chronic recurring Q fever..... the side effects are marginally more tolerable than Q fever's symptoms.

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

viewmont1071 — Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:24:52 GMT

I should add i have to have a full eye examination every 3 months when I take it and also a liver function test once a month. It is certainly not a benign drug.

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

rogevibe — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 05:05:14 GMT

I was just investigating whether Chloroquine is affordable - I have nenewed gratefulness as to the Australian health care system regarding prices for medicine. ( not so overjoyed with the subjective worthiness/quality of care relationship )

Why Chloroquine ?

Seems the Chinese consider it helpful, even as early as February

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

domino-710 — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 05:08:42 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:
I was just investigating whether Chloroquine is affordable - I have nenewed gratefulness as to the Australian health care system regarding prices for medicine. ( not so overjoyed with the subjective worthiness/quality of care relationship )
Why Chloroquine ?
Seems the Chinese consider it helpful, even as early as February

Doing a ' please explain ' here.

Well - if you are able.

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

rogevibe — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 05:36:08 GMT

@domino-710 wrote:
@rogevibe wrote:
I was just investigating whether Chloroquine is affordable - I have nenewed gratefulness as to the Australian health care system regarding prices for medicine. ( not so overjoyed with the subjective worthiness/quality of care relationship )
Why Chloroquine ?
Seems the Chinese consider it helpful, even as early as February

Doing a ' please explain ' here.

Well - if you are able.

nenewed gratefulness means I did not realise script medicine was so relatively low cost comapred with some other medically advanced and health accessable countries , so am impresssed and grateful more so

Noted this here to maybe enlighten others who never get ill and whereby the cost of medical drugs has not been an issue

Subjective worthiness relates to the Australian class system and how public image , personal repute and non-medical influences can deteremine level of care , which maybe different person to person ( although generally much the same )

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

domino-710 — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 06:00:55 GMT

What can I say.

Now I almost understand.

Well - not so much. lol

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

bright.ton42 — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 07:02:52 GMT

@domino-710 wrote:
What can I say.

Now I almost understand.

Well - not so much. lol

Lucky you, I don't even 'almost'.

I suppose there's a remote possibility that English is the OPs second language. Otherwise ...... shakes head lol.

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

rogevibe — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 09:31:27 GMT

@bright.ton42 wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:
What can I say.

Now I almost understand.

Well - not so much. lol
Lucky you, I don't even 'almost'.
I suppose there's a remote possibility that English is the OPs second language. Otherwise ...... shakes head lol.

Not written for knaves

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

davewil1964 — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 12:42:14 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:
@bright.ton42 wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:
What can I say.

Now I almost understand.

Well - not so much. lol
Lucky you, I don't even 'almost'.
I suppose there's a remote possibility that English is the OPs second language. Otherwise ...... shakes head lol.
Not written for knaves

Or those who understand how to structure a sentence in English.

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

tigerwolftaipan — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 18:41:07 GMT

Uses for hydroxychloroquine sulphate

Malaria

Prevention (prophylaxis) of malaria caused by Plasmodium malariae, P. ovale, chloroquine-susceptible P. vivax, and chloroquine-susceptible P. falciparum.109 115 Alternative when chloroquine is unavailable.115 121 134

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Treatment of rheumatoid arthritis.103 104 109

One of several disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs (DMARDs) that can be used when DMARD therapy is appropriate.103 104

Consider risk of severe and sometimes irreversible toxicity if used for prolonged periods in treatment of rheumatoid arthritis.109 (See Cautions.)

Lupus Erythematosus

Treatment of discoid lupus erythematosus and systemic lupus erythematosus.109 Used as an adjunct to corticosteroids and/or other appropriate therapy.a

Consider risk of severe and sometimes irreversible toxicity if used for prolonged periods in treatment of lupus erythematosus.109 (See Cautions.)

Q Fever

Treatment of Q fever endocarditis† caused by Coxiella burnetii; used in conjunction with doxycycline.111 112 113

CDC recommends a 2- to 3-week regimen of doxycycline for treatment of acute Q fever, a 1-year regimen of doxycycline and hydroxychloroquine for treatment of acute Q fever in patients with preexisting valvular heart disease (to prevent progression of acute disease to endocarditis), and a 1.5- to 3-year regimen of doxycycline and hydroxychloroquine for treatment of chronic Q fever.113

Porphyria Cutanea Tarda and Polymorphous Light Eruptions

Has been used in treatment of porphyria cutanea tarda†.114 116 117 (See Patients with Psoriasis or Porphyria under Cautions.)

Has been effective in some cases when used in the treatment of polymorphous light eruptions†.

https://www.drugs.com/monograph/hydroxychloroquine-sulfate.html

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

chameleon54 — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 21:28:43 GMT

@bright.ton42 wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:
What can I say.

Now I almost understand.

Well - not so much. lol
Lucky you, I don't even 'almost'.
I suppose there's a remote possibility that English is the OPs second language. Otherwise ...... shakes head lol.

I had to read it a couple of times to fully " get it " but once understood, seems pretty clear to me and agree with the Roges sentiments.

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

springyzone — Sun, 22 Mar 2020 01:19:50 GMT

I think you're right.

Wow, what a massive price difference.

I had no idea what the drug was when i first read your post, but the price difference was immediately apparent.

We are lucky in this country, although even here prices can vary.

A few years back my brother was on chemotherapy tablets of some kind. I forget names but he was told they were worth $10,000 a month but because he was then on the invalid's pension, he got them cheaply. Again, I can't remember exactly how much, but $6, $10, whatever it cost pensioners. I don't know if that price though would have applied to anyone not on a concession card.

And he had to be on them for about 3 months.

Imagine if you had to pay $30,000. Lots of people could not afford that.

As it was, they unfortunately didn't work, made not the slightest bit of difference and my brother died soon afterwards. It would have been better not to have had them at all and had a happier month or so, but we only knew that in hindsight I guess.

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

icyfroth — Sun, 22 Mar 2020 02:04:23 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
@rogevibe wrote:
@bright.ton42 wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:
What can I say.

Now I almost understand.

Well - not so much. lol
Lucky you, I don't even 'almost'.
I suppose there's a remote possibility that English is the OPs second language. Otherwise ...... shakes head lol.
Not written for knaves
Or those who understand how to structure a sentence in English.

Not all the world speaks english...we're importing lots of ppl who may speak english, but not know our ways...let alone our "sentence structures".

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

rogevibe — Sun, 22 Mar 2020 09:27:49 GMT

@tigerwolftaipan wrote:
Uses for hydroxychloroquine sulphate

Malaria

Prevention (prophylaxis) of malaria caused by Plasmodium malariae, P. ovale, chloroquine-susceptible P. vivax, and chloroquine-susceptible P. falciparum.109 115 Alternative when chloroquine is unavailable.115 121 134

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Treatment of rheumatoid arthritis.103 104 109

One of several disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs (DMARDs) that can be used when DMARD therapy is appropriate.103 104

Consider risk of severe and sometimes irreversible toxicity if used for prolonged periods in treatment of rheumatoid arthritis.109 (See Cautions.)

Lupus Erythematosus

Treatment of discoid lupus erythematosus and systemic lupus erythematosus.109 Used as an adjunct to corticosteroids and/or other appropriate therapy.a

Consider risk of severe and sometimes irreversible toxicity if used for prolonged periods in treatment of lupus erythematosus.109 (See Cautions.)

Q Fever

Treatment of Q fever endocarditis† caused by Coxiella burnetii; used in conjunction with doxycycline.111 112 113

CDC recommends a 2- to 3-week regimen of doxycycline for treatment of acute Q fever, a 1-year regimen of doxycycline and hydroxychloroquine for treatment of acute Q fever in patients with preexisting valvular heart disease (to prevent progression of acute disease to endocarditis), and a 1.5- to 3-year regimen of doxycycline and hydroxychloroquine for treatment of chronic Q fever.113

Porphyria Cutanea Tarda and Polymorphous Light Eruptions

Has been used in treatment of porphyria cutanea tarda†.114 116 117 (See Patients with Psoriasis or Porphyria under Cautions.)

Has been effective in some cases when used in the treatment of polymorphous light eruptions†.

https://www.drugs.com/monograph/hydroxychloroquine-sulfate.html

The data is a little out of date

Re: Next time you fill a script ...

rogevibe — Sun, 22 Mar 2020 09:40:31 GMT

@springyzone wrote:
I think you're right.
Wow, what a massive price difference.
I had no idea what the drug was when i first read your post, but the price difference was immediately apparent.

We are lucky in this country, although even here prices can vary.
A few years back my brother was on chemotherapy tablets of some kind. I forget names but he was told they were worth $10,000 a month but because he was then on the invalid's pension, he got them cheaply. Again, I can't remember exactly how much, but $6, $10, whatever it cost pensioners. I don't know if that price though would have applied to anyone not on a concession card.
And he had to be on them for about 3 months.

Imagine if you had to pay $30,000. Lots of people could not afford that.
As it was, they unfortunately didn't work, made not the slightest bit of difference and my brother died soon afterwards. It would have been better not to have had them at all and had a happier month or so, but we only knew that in hindsight I guess.

Astonishingly and contrary to the image of Bigpharma ( in some circles), two companies , one German and the other Israeli has donated a total of 9 million doses gratis for distribution within America

I hope this corporate goodwill over profits is as infectous as coronavirus