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Tourism post Coronavirus

rogevibe — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:04:52 GMT

looks like Australia will stamp out the viral pest and so release everyone to return to their productive live with renewed vigour, innovation and cheery high productivity - within Australia

Not so good for those seeking two way trips overseas or those seeking to viist Australia - both understandably banned as the virus still rampart - and the last thing we want is an Eqador experience

But anyhow not all is lost to the tourist industry as now almost 1 million per month previous short trip overseas people will hopefully now find reason to tour within Australia ( I know there are other reasons for visiting overseas)

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Previousproducts/3401.0Main%20Features4Nov%202019?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=3401.0&issue=Nov%202019&num=&view=

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domino-710 — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:08:08 GMT

Sorry - I read it as Totem post - Coronavirus.

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rogevibe — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:11:51 GMT

@domino-710 wrote:
Sorry - I read it as Totem post - Coronavirus.

"Totem post" ! got a laugh out of me

( disclaimer: the presence of a totem post will not cure coronavirus)

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the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:19:45 GMT

My daughter and I had tickets booked to fly to Sydney (with Qantas fortunately) and return home on the Indian Pacific in July. We should get deferrals on thosose tickets, so as soon as we have the all clear we'll still be going.

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wide-world-of-stamps — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:48:15 GMT

Hopefully more Australians will travel within our country if they can't go overseas.

There are so many beautiful places in our own country, but some people think it's not a holiday if they don't go overseas.

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the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 09:23:20 GMT

One of the planned highlights of our trip was to be a viisit to the pioneer cemetery at St John's church Wilberforce to take photos of the graves of some of my husband's convict ancestors - we even had t shirts made for the occasion with CONVICT DESCENDANT printed on them. Hopefully we'll still be able to do this.

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myoclon1cjerk — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 13:52:09 GMT

Go and see it while you can.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/25/great-barrier-reef-suffers-third-mass-coral-bleaching-event-in-five-years

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eol-products — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 22:12:14 GMT

Thats why we have Tassie.

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springyzone — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 02:15:59 GMT

Just about everyone I know has had overseas holidays or trips cancelled.

If our government has any sense at all, it will keep our borders shut tight for many months to come, we really don't want tourists from outside at this point.

probably travel within a state will become possible first, then later perhaps travel between some states. Plenty to see here in Aust.

I often feel travel within Vic is also very under rated. Soem fantastic regional centres here and lots of history.

She-elephant, awesome stuff about the convict ancestors. I also have a convict ancestor. I knew his daughter, would you believe! Mind you, I was only a young child when she died but I still remember her. She was my great grandmother.

With travel, I am still getting emails from several cruise companies, offering booking options for cruises later this year or next year.

I feel they are dreaming. Who has any confidence that cruises will take place later this year? I don't, unless they had a limited itinerary eg round Australia or Aust/NZ. And even that is only if people were happy to get back on a ship and it will be a while till people get that confidence back that they won't risk being stuck on board. I enjoy cruising but I am not booking anything any time soon.

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imastawka — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 03:08:33 GMT

I think if you do some research, you may find out that all sicknesses aboard cruise ships are with one company alone - Carnival.

I have friends who 'cruise' often and they say the slackness of the cleaning and wait staff is horrendous.

On other cruises, disinfection is ongoing - lift buttons, stair balustrades, table tops etc

Ashtrays are emptied when there's only 2 or 3 butts in them, glasses removed asap

On the Carnival cruise, no cleaning of public areas was seen more than once a day. Ashtrays were overflowing, tabletops full of empty glasses.

They say they will never go on a Carnival cruise again.

e.g. Ruby Princess is a Carnival owned ship.

https://www.google.com.au/search?ei=gvqkXqHNDNGK4-EPs9W_gAM&q=+carnival+cruise+ships+sickness&oq=+carnival+cruise+ships+sickness&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIGCAAQFhAeMggIABAWEAoQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjoECAAQDToICAAQCBANEB46CAgAEAcQChAeOgQIABBDOgYIABAHEB46BQgAEJECOgIIAFCTqgNYtr8EYKvBBGgAcAB4AIABqAKIAZcpkgEHMC4xNi4xMJgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwihltX7jYXpAhVRxTgGHbPqDzAQ4dUDCAs&uact=5

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lyhargr_0 — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 03:35:59 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
I think if you do some research, you may find out that all sicknesses aboard cruise ships are with one company alone - Carnival.

I have friends who 'cruise' often and they say the slackness of the cleaning and wait staff is horrendous.

On other cruises, disinfection is ongoing - lift buttons, stair balustrades, table tops etc
Ashtrays are emptied when there's only 2 or 3 butts in them, glasses removed asap

On the Carnival cruise, no cleaning of public areas was seen more than once a day. Ashtrays were overflowing, tabletops full of empty glasses.

They say they will never go on a Carnival cruise again.

e.g. Ruby Princess is a Carnival owned ship.

https://www.google.com.au/search?ei=gvqkXqHNDNGK4-EPs9W_gAM&q=+carnival+cruise+ships+sickness&oq=+carnival+cruise+ships+sickness&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIGCAAQFhAeMggIABAWEAoQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjoECAAQDToICAAQCBANEB46CAgAEAcQChAeOgQIABBDOgYIABAHEB46BQgAEJECOgIIAFCTqgNYtr8EYKvBBGgAcAB4AIABqAKIAZcpkgEHMC4xNi4xMJgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwihltX7jYXpAhVRxTgGHbPqDzAQ4dUDCAs&uact=5

Totally untrue Carnival being the only company ...... Carnival haven't owned MV Artinia ship for over 11 yrs .....

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-24/artania-passenger-dies-from-coronavirus-in-perth-hospital/12180868

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imastawka — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 03:54:33 GMT

I wouldn't say totally untrue, if you look at my link.

But I'll give you that one.

Perhaps I should have said -

I think if you do some research, you may find out that most sicknesses aboard cruise ships are with one company alone - Carnival.

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lyhargr_0 — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:00:29 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
I wouldn't say totally untrue, if you look at my link.

But I'll give you that one.

Perhaps I should have said -

I think if you do some research, you may find out that most sicknesses aboard cruise ships are with one company alone - Carnival.

I would ..... most is never all ....... so no need to Google ( research )

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imastawka — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:07:19 GMT

You'd need to do research if you were going on a cruise to decide which one to take.

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lyhargr_0 — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:09:58 GMT

You'd need to do research if you were going on a cruise to decide which one to take.

I wouldn't need to do anything 'cause I wouldn't go on cruise if you gave me the ticket ...... dens of germs at the best of times .....

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springyzone — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:14:52 GMT

I think the problem then is Carnival own many of the other cruise lines or at least those sailing in Australian waters.

We are not big cruisers but what we found after 4 cruises is things can also vary ship to ship and maybe cruise to cruise too, I don't know. Depends on staff a lot. we had a great time on our first cruise but met a woman who was in a different section and different dining room and her experience was the opposite.

Before they get going again, I think all the cruise lines will need to look at overall cleanliness standards and practices because corona isn't even the main virus likely to hit, but for sure, if a ship does go down with very bad cases of eg noro virus, the cruise companies can't really stand too much extra bad publicity.

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myoclon1cjerk — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:18:31 GMT

Cruise ships have been singled out as the greatest spreader of the virus throughout the Caribbean.

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imastawka — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:25:49 GMT

@lyhargr_0 wrote:

You'd need to do research if you were going on a cruise to decide which one to take.
I wouldn't need to do anything 'cause I wouldn't go on cruise if you gave me the ticket ...... dens of germs at the best of times .....

If it doesn't concern you, then why comment?

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lyhargr_0 — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 04:33:07 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
@lyhargr_0 wrote:

You'd need to do research if you were going on a cruise to decide which one to take.
I wouldn't need to do anything 'cause I wouldn't go on cruise if you gave me the ticket ...... dens of germs at the best of times .....

If it doesn't concern you, then why comment?

Why not? last I saw you dont own these forums ( yet ) ... you have this great need ( insecurity ) to always be right

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rogevibe — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 05:00:11 GMT

@wide-world-of-stamps wrote:
Hopefully more Australians will travel within our country if they can't go overseas.

There are so many beautiful places in our own country, but some people think it's not a holiday if they don't go overseas.

Be kind of a new experience knowing that all people around you are Australian resident - in a large city will there be a change in tone ?