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Concerned about a purchase

patchoo78 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:07:12 GMT

On the 3rd of June, I bought a Nintendo 3DS. IT was bought at around midnight and not paid for straight away... The next morning around 10am I get a message saying "just waiting for payment then I can send the DS" , I didn't reply immediately. A few hours later I get a message asking me if I still wanted to buy the DS.. I explained that I wouldn't be able to pay until the Friday (last week) and that if he didnt want to go through with the sale then to just send me a mutual cancelation and he can relist; he said he would wait..

I sent through the money via PayPal on Friday morning and sent a message telling him so.. I got a message around 2am Tuesday morning apologising for not sending the DS as he had forgotten it was a public holiday and would send it tomorrow (He might have meant Tuesday)

It hasn't been marked as posted yet so I sent him a message as I know that not all sellers mark items as posted.

So far there has been no reply....

I do know the dangers of buying electronic devices on ebay so I don't need to know about that.

I also noticed that he has "relisted this item or something similar" I know this usually just means that they have twomore than one item the same, but I was wondering what the chances are of him having two 3DSs to sell as he doesn't appear to be a refurbisher..

Is there any reason for concern, or am I just being paranoid? Normally I wouldn't worry but it was just weird that he sent me two messages within 12 hours of me buying the DS and now nothing.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

*crikey*mate* — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:26:21 GMT

If he has 3 kids, he might have 3 DS's etc - we have 4 iPads (one is mine), 3 iPods, 3 phones etc, so yes that is possible.

If we are just talking this week that there are no messages, it could be something as simple as he is having internet issues atm

Maybe he posted Tuesday as he said on the way to gio on holidays for a few days and it hasn't occurred to him that he needs to reassure you that he has done what he said he would.

so whilst I would be a bit worried, I wouldn't be too worried just yet.

Maybe if nothing by early next week, start to worry a bit more.

You could open a dispute in PayPal and see if that raises any contact

then when you want to, raise that to a claim.

alternatively, have you tried pulling his contact details and giving him a ring?

Re: Concerned about a purchase

patchoo78 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 01:02:36 GMT

@*crikey*mate* wrote:
If he has 3 kids, he might have 3 DS's etc - we have 4 iPads (one is mine), 3 iPods, 3 phones etc, so yes that is possible.

If we are just talking this week that there are no messages, it could be something as simple as he is having internet issues atm

Maybe he posted Tuesday as he said on the way to gio on holidays for a few days and it hasn't occurred to him that he needs to reassure you that he has done what he said he would.

so whilst I would be a bit worried, I wouldn't be too worried just yet.

Maybe if nothing by early next week, start to worry a bit more.

You could open a dispute in PayPal and see if that raises any contact

then when you want to, raise that to a claim.

alternatively, have you tried pulling his contact details and giving him a ring?

From his writing (typing?) style he seems quite young to be having 3 kids all with a 3DS, If he did have 3 kids each with a 3DS then why would he be selling them? And why use the same photo for both listings?

Re: Concerned about a purchase

rjm6572 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 01:30:00 GMT

if you havent received the item in 7-10 days just open a dispute with paypal

Re: Concerned about a purchase

*crikey*mate* — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 01:39:41 GMT

dunno patch, one of my kids just upgraded to one with a bigger screen - dont know the name of the newer version?

another one swapped their machine for a colour they liked better, so when i got the colour he wanted next child got the other one - spose iof i didnt have more kids would have sold it?

maybe he isnt legit - maybe he just found a heap at the local cash converters clearance sale and bought them all up

was just some examples of why it may not be a scam - yet

but you paid with paypal, so you have protection and shouldnt end up a victim if this is a scammer.

i hope you're not and that everything woprks out ok

Re: Concerned about a purchase

cq_tech — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 01:40:30 GMT

Under the circumstances Patch, I'd be a little concerned too. He seems to be very inexperienced, has only 15 transactions and has only ever left 1 feedback for others (and that said something like "just waiting for payment before I send the item"). As you paid with Paypal there won't be an issue with getting a refund but I wouldn't be waiting too long before lodging an INR as it does very much appear that he's relisted the same item that you purchased. I hope I'm wrong and your item arrives this week, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it didn't. Good luck regardless.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

michellebartley — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:54:31 GMT

Thats the problem of not being able to pay straight away and I try to a avoid it as much as possible. I also have had quite a lot of sellers of late not marking items as posted and when I contact them about it they always have an excuse. Then not long after whoopee at last (slightly coincidental) they mark item as posted, a bit like giving them a prod with a long sharp stick. Also you should get an email stating item is posted and also on your ebay site with the posted Icon. Fingers crossed item arrives.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

harley_babes_hoard — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:01:15 GMT

sellers don't have to mark parcels posted, they can do as they please.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

michellebartley — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:08:12 GMT

Well tell Ebay about them. They are always up in arms about buyers all the time.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

cherry*135 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:23:18 GMT

The description for the second item, is a bit different to the one you bought. It adds: Also two downloadable games already on it!

This second item is sold now.

Perhaps the seller did have 2 of this item?

11 sales since end of May - 3 positive feedback received.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

patchoo78 — Sun, 15 Jun 2014 09:59:58 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
The description for the second item, is a bit different to the one you bought. It adds: Also two downloadable games already on it!
This second item is sold now.

Perhaps the seller did have 2 of this item?

11 sales since end of May - 3 positive feedback received.

He told me in a message that the 3DS had two downloaded games on the console..

I don't care that he didn't mark it as posted. what's annoying me is that he sent me two messages within 12 hours asking for the payment so I explaned what was going on and now all I'm getting is excuses every time I message him. "So sorry I forgot about the public holiday I'll post it tomorrow." next message "Oh sorry, I got busy with work and forgot to post it, I'll post it when I get up in the morning"

If he had posted it when he said he was going to it would have been here by now...

I have sent him another message asking if he had sent it but so far no reply

Re: Concerned about a purchase

rjm6572 — Sun, 15 Jun 2014 10:28:42 GMT

in your OP you bought the item on the 3rd june so thats 12 days ago so i'd give him another couple of days and if you dont receive the item open up an INR dispute and then he might get back to you

Re: Concerned about a purchase

cq_tech — Sun, 15 Jun 2014 14:12:16 GMT

Patch, I wouldn't be waiting a minute longer before lodging an INR dispute. My guess is that he did only have the one 3DS for sale but because he relisted it when you didn't pay immediately, somebody else bought it so he had 2 payments of $117.70 sitting in his Paypal account which he has probably since withdrawn, and currently doesn't have sufficient funds to return your money so he's stringing you along until such time as he does.

I'd also be inclined to pull his contact details in case he has registered with dodgy details and then report him to ebay if he has. Alternatively, if they prove to be correct, I'd give him a ring and put it to him that he has sold the same item to 2 different people then ask him what the hell he intends doing about it. Also, regardless of the ultimate outcome, I think he well and truly earned himself a red dot for his trouble.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

patchoo78 — Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:31:07 GMT

I did give him the option to cancel the purchase and relist it after the two messages I got asking for payment but he said he was fine to wait until Friday... He got the money on Friday then said he would send it after the public holiday which was on the 9th.

If he doesn't have the money to refund me he could just explain that in the first place instead of stringing me along..

I think I will just open an INR dispute now..

Re: Concerned about a purchase

patchoo78 — Wed, 18 Jun 2014 09:05:06 GMT

I still hadn't heard from the seller as of Monday, so I opened a dispute... Still no response from the seller either to the dispute or the messages I sent him

Re: Concerned about a purchase

cherry*135 — Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:07:01 GMT

Sounds very odd.

In one sense, it appears that seller doesn't know how ebay selling works, as someone posted above this is the only feedback the seller has left a buyer: Just waiting for payment then will send asap. Which is not how feedback works, it is left after item is paid for.

The seller has sold and received pos feedback for 4 items in June though. Others sold, but no feedback yet.

The seller requests the money in the first day or 2 after sale, then after they receive the money no contact from them.. no indication if the item is posted etc. That doesn't make sense.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

patchoo78 — Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:16:23 GMT

It is really odd.. He sent me two messages asking for the money so I said I couldn't pay until the Friday and he could cancel the sale if he didn't want to wait.. He said he would wait but then no contact from him after the 2 messages he sent previously...

He hasn't responded to the dispute as yet

Re: Concerned about a purchase

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:03:52 GMT

Is there any evidence that he has been active online?

Maybe he got crook? Might be in hospital, or something.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

cq_tech — Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:50:49 GMT

One can only hope. At least it might keep him off ebay where he clearly doesn't belong.

Re: Concerned about a purchase

patchoo78 — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 03:39:21 GMT

@*crikey*mate* wrote:
Is there any evidence that he has been active online?

Maybe he got crook? Might be in hospital, or something.

I'd believe that if he hadn't "forgotten" to send the package twice after I'd asked if it had been sent.

I sent a message pretty much immediately after he sent me one apologising for not sending it and telling me he would send it express post (Obviously I told him you can't send lithium batteries via air mail) and there was no reply, so I don't think it's likely that he would have done something to land him in hospital in the 2-5 minutes it took me to respond to his last mesage. If he did, he should probably not leave the house again