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Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

kopenhagen5 — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:58:05 GMT

Recently made a purchase of multiple cd's.

Paid, marked as sent, all good. Item 360861732783 (signed and 2 cracks at the bottom of case)

A week later receive a message from seller -

Australia Post returned your item to me today and one of the items 'tempe di semente' was damaged. I have no idea why as nothing was said on the package.
I will resend today express and give you a refund for the damaged disc. I will also give you a freebie of your choice.

I reply with - That's fine, no need for freebie, accidents happen. Check the address and if the case is damaged , send the disc anyway even with damage.

Seller comes back with -

I wish it was just the case. I copy and paste the address to avoid these kind of issues but in this case it didn't work
Lucky they came back actually (well two at least)
Same here really, I have sent thousands and it is rare they do not get to the destination unless the person has moved
Thanks for the understanding

So now I'm on the hunt for another one as I specifically wanted this music recently featured on PBS FM.

Great, found another from a different eBay seller. Purchased it, a little dearer but that's ok. Item 261616474313

This all happened today when I looked at the pic of the second one I purchased, gee, same signature on the front and same 2 cracks on the back.

Fantastic, I should message the first seller and tell them I found their cd. Wait a minute, something's not right..................

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

digital*ghost — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:15:48 GMT

My first thought was the first seller used the second seller's photos just to sell their item, but it's obvious they aren't the same photos at all. Seller B's listing (the second one you bought) is older, as well (they listed theirs back in October, while the first seller listed theirs in February).

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

countessalmirena — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:17:04 GMT

You are absolutely right in spotting that the photographs are of the same CD case.

My best guess is that seller1 has a retail shop or was selling this through another site, and seller2 bought the disc, then listed it on eBay for a higher price.

The story about the parcel being returned to seller1 and one of the discs being damaged does not make logical sense to me. In conjunction with the apparently damaged disc being listed for sale by another seller, with no mention of disc damage, inclines me to deduce (I'm using Sherlock-specific terminology here!) that seller1's story is not true. He sold the disc to seller2 way back when (October?), subsequently realising (when you purchased) that the CD was not there after frenzied searching for a week, told you a story as he was reluctant to simply say, "The CD isn't here, I may have sold it to someone else" (and I can understand that; "out of stock" chastisement by eBay is not something any seller want to incur), and refunded you for the amount of the CD. He was even happy to throw in any other disc (an offer you did not take up) to avoid letting you down (and to avoid an Item Not Received complaint).

If no red-headed men turn up to confuse the issue, I think it's solved.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

kopenhagen5 — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:22:11 GMT

Yes, and I thought perhaps the same seller with different accounts but they are different locations.

I may have a little fun with this one getting the first seller to be honest.

Still haven't received the refund from the first.

I concur Countess. T'is the likely scenario without needing to consult Dr Watson.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

countessalmirena — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:20:48 GMT

Oh, no refund? That's a red-headed man (metaphorically speaking).

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

kopenhagen5 — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:25:58 GMT

T'was only today, so a refund may still be forthcoming.

I shall runneth off and check the PP emails swiftly DG. (A good deduction)

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

digital*ghost — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:23:43 GMT

Did the PayPal payment go to the same name, or email address, by any chance? (I have different locations set between my two main stores - eBay lists my return address as the item location, which is in a neighbouring suburb, while I have it set to just Adelaide in my non-ebay store. But the same PP account and email address is used to receive payments from both).

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

countessalmirena — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:37:12 GMT

The Mystery of the Corsican Disc

'Twas a dingy occluded day on the 23rd of May, with the sun peeping out in occasional festive moments. The Dane looked through the catalogue lying on the dusty counter in the Musick Shoppe, pursing his lips as he leafed passed many pages whose items held no interest for him.

Finally he sighed, and spoke. "Have you nothing from the wild region of Corsica?" he asked quietly.

"Corsica!" The man behind the counter seemed to jump slightly. "Why do you ask?" His eyes, slightly widened, darted to the closed music cabinet to one side, and then returned to the cool blue eyes of his Danish visitor.

"I have an interest in music from that area," replied the Dane calmly. He smiled slightly. "Come, man, surely as a purveyor of music from all over the world, you will have something along those lines."

"Something along those lines..." muttered the man. His large hands jerked involuntarily. He looked up abruptly. "You do not come from Corsica...?"

"I hardly think so," said the Dane, amused. "Perhaps my colouring may give a hint that I do not hale from those parts. No, it is merely ... an interest."

The man behind the counter did not allow his eyes to waver. "An interest."

"Yes, an interest." It was none of this man's business, thought the Dane, becoming slightly impatient, that he had heard the music of Corsica played in a recent concert, and become sufficiently impressed to seek out recordings for his highly select personal collection. For that matter, this little man with the large hands and protuberant dark eyes seemed strangely ill at ease...

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

kopenhagen5 — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:45:18 GMT

Different names, stores and locations.

I forgot, can't see seller's PP email addy's in PP anymore or email notifications.

Countess, I bow to thee fellow muse. Brilliant and beyond appreciation.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

tazzieterror — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 01:00:20 GMT

Busted! Please do have some fun with this, kopenhagen, and report back with the results!

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

go-tazz — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 01:35:09 GMT

My guess is same seller with two different account that lives in Logan,(which is a suburb of the second location

Brisbane) or the first seller deals with the second seller.

First one sold to Kopes on the 23rd of May and may have taken it to the second users store and sold it to

them at a higher price

So second sold to Kopes at a higher BIN price.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

davidc4430 — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 04:15:50 GMT

i wonder what he'd have done had you asked for a photo of the damage in order to decide what to do?

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

Anonymous — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 05:38:30 GMT

Wasn't there mention recently of a few people's sold items being relisted without their knowledge? Perhaps the seller did indeed sell it to the other person who's now got it listed, but they don't realise what's happened and rather than admit that they didn't actually send it they made up a story. I've been told some really stupid lies by buyers/sellers on ebay (and elsewhere) - ones that were weren't even necessary.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

davidc4430 — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 06:10:57 GMT

as CDs are so easy to copy i'm surprised there isnt a thriving business of buying, copying then selling the original.

i often wonder why i have a box full of cd's i most likely will never play again (100's of them)

i really ought to put em up for sale.

i have copies everywhere, on the PC, on the laptop, on the portable hard drive.

if dvds were easy to copy the same would apply.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

brerrabbit585 — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 07:16:25 GMT

I was going to say you can find their email by pretending to do a refund, but then I realised you're the buyer so you can't pretend to refund anything!

If you paid with the funds coming from a credit card you could check the reference that's showing and see if it's the same for both sellers.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

kopenhagen5 — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 09:36:07 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Wasn't there mention recently of a few people's sold items being relisted without their knowledge? Perhaps the seller did indeed sell it to the other person who's now got it listed, but they don't realise what's happened and rather than admit that they didn't actually send it they made up a story. I've been told some really stupid lies by buyers/sellers on ebay (and elsewhere) - ones that were weren't even necessary.

I think that's what has happened tangles.

First seller sold it perhaps as a later addition to an order or freebie without going through eBay then accidentally relisted.

Now embarrassed and couldn't find it for a week even though marked posted has come up with a story to fit.

But..................busted........nicked..........sprung..................hand in the cookie jar.

I might wait until I receive the cd then send a pic just saying I have the disc..............see what the response is.

Or is that too cruel ?

Which reference brer ?

The countess, am still impressed with your narrative, brilliant and very quickly written.

If you don't already I think you should be writing books.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

countessalmirena — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 09:46:24 GMT

Thank you, Kopenhagen.

You'll need a cookie jar as evidence: here it is!

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

brerrabbit585 — Sun, 10 Jun 2018 04:10:33 GMT

@kopenhagen5

Which reference brer ?

______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Maybe things have changed now but when you used to buy something, either on ebay or another site, and you paid with paypal but used funds from your credit card it used to say in the email you got, "This transaction will appear on your statement as "PAYPAL *XXXXXXXXX"."

I haven't bought anything using my credit card for the funds for a while but I just checked an email from October 2016 and it had that blurb on it. I tried looking for my own reference/code that appears on other people's statements when they fund a payment with their credit card rather than with paypal funds but I couldn't find it. I know what it is and I remember it was hard to find before, but maybe it no longer applies and so it's not there.

It doesn't show when you use paypal funds because in paypal you get to see all the seller details anyway. The reference or code (just letters or whatever the seller chose to put in) used to always appears on credit card statements but perhaps they've change it now so that the seller's name appears instead.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

kopenhagen5 — Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:43:09 GMT

Thanks, constant changes makes it difficult to keep up.

Re: Budding Sherlocks, any clues ?

digital*ghost — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 01:54:08 GMT

You don't need to check CC statements etc, you will be able to tell at a glance from the two PayPal receipts, because the name of the account holder is always in the subject line of the receipt (the seller's name will also be recorded in the transaction history in your account, in case you no longer have the emails).

"Receipt for your payment to XXXXX"

If they are the same, the funds went to the same account.