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Using MyPost parcel label v eBay's print a label system

whoisbiggles — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 04:01:14 GMT

Fear I have been a bit slow to realise that:

If I send more than 5 parcels a week over an 8 week, and purchase labels via the MyPost site, I can for example send a parcel between capital cities for $7.30.

The volume qualification bar is probably to high for me, as I only send 10 parcels in a good month, to continue using eBay labels with no possibility of a discount and which I can't use for non-eBay sales seems a bit silly.

Am I missing something?

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curraone — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 04:14:15 GMT

I don't understand your question

If you don't send 5 parcels a week you don't qualify for Aust Post discounted parcels so the question is moot.

If you only send 10 parcels a month - the ebay labels are only $7.55 for 500g and have discounted postage for calculated. So they are the best.

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whoisbiggles — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 04:20:43 GMT

Sir,

What are these $7.55 ebay labels of which you speak?

Could be the "thing" I am missing?

When I use the eBay label system - the cheapest parcel rate is $8.30.

Thank you, I see more investigations are required upon my behalf.

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ilce — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 04:26:42 GMT

You get no discount for 500g parcels normal or express.

Ebay Parcels are best for 1kg parcels standard postage. Discounted rate.

Also using BX4 Auspost boxes with eBay labels is the best value for money for 5K or under.

Beware above 2Kgs thats not BX though as eBay rates are actually more expensive than Auspost once you reach a certain cubic size.

Always compare them and you will be right.

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whoisbiggles — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 04:28:52 GMT

thank you

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eol-products — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 04:30:51 GMT

There is an option to use satchels which will be the $7.55 postage price.

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whoisbiggles — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 05:40:11 GMT

aaahhhh thank you that makes sense

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davewil1964 — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 06:15:47 GMT

But you have to buy the satchels from Australia Post. They are 15c each in lots of 20 or more.

The postage option you then select (once you have some satchels) is 'eBay 500g satchel'. Which you will be charged $7.55 for at the end of each billing month. So you don't even have to stump the money up up front.

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whoisbiggles — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 22:14:21 GMT

thank you

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readysetgo2u2015 — Thu, 04 Jul 2019 20:52:08 GMT

set up a aus post account its free then connect it to ebay it has instructions then import from ebay to aus post and print from there because you get the ebay discount and then aus post give you volume discount and 500grms is $6.70 and so on also ebay cant add thier % on to the postage

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davewil1964 — Thu, 04 Jul 2019 23:15:10 GMT

@readysetgo2u2015 wrote:
set up a aus post account its free then connect it to ebay it has instructions then import from ebay to aus post and print from there because you get the ebay discount and then aus post give you volume discount and 500grms is $6.70 and so on also ebay cant add thier % on to the postage

You only get the AP volume discount if you have the volume. eBay take their % on the total value of the order, so they get their cut regardless.

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jane-de-cluttering — Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:43:31 GMT

I have also stumbled across something in Aus Post called ‘Domestic Letter with Tracking’.

It is a cardboard envelope A4 size – max weigh 500gr – max thickness 20mm. Cost = $5.20.

And it’s tracked with their own sticky label tracking number. Insurance and signature are options too.

Even cheaper is the DL-sized envelope which is for max weight 125 gr and 5mm thickness. Cost = $2.10.

Both say they are not suitable for sending small rigid items such as jewellery, keys, coins. But I have, via careful packing so as the whole parcel is the same dimensions as the envelope without any lumpiness.

It was being trialled in a few POs, but even so you could purchase on-line and use anywhere. The trial was a success and it was being extended nation-wide – I think I last heard.

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dazzledayz — Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:47:16 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
@readysetgo2u2015 wrote:
set up a aus post account its free then connect it to ebay it has instructions then import from ebay to aus post and print from there because you get the ebay discount and then aus post give you volume discount and 500grms is $6.70 and so on also ebay cant add thier % on to the postage

You only get the AP volume discount if you have the volume. eBay take their % on the total value of the order, so they get their cut regardless.

eBay not only get their FVF on the total price, they also get a second cut of proceedings via the prices paid per postage label.

eBay give us a discount of 10% on the undiscounted MyPost Rate but eBay are qualified, due to their volume, to a minimum 19%.

They pocket 9% of the price of every regular label we buy.

If they have a deal with AP to price by postcode they could be getting a 35% discount for same city parcels so pocketing a whopper 26%.

It gets much worse if you use the ebay labels for express as AP offer a flat rate discount based on whether or not the destination is either rural, intercity or local.

The actual price eBay charge for express labels though is calculated at Parcel Post rates which are flat rate + kilometers travelled.

eg 3kg Satchel to Perth Flat @ 19% disc = $13.73 according to AP's MyPost rates yet ebay's only express option is $38.80.

The same express satchel sent express to Biloela (I'm in Bris) would cost $25.70

If I go onto the MyPost site then without any duiscount I can get a Flat rate Express 3kg label for $16.95

Post in Australia is a nightmare and if you want to maximise your benefit you need to be looking at the MyPost busines site even if you don't qualaify for a discount as they are still frequently cheaper than ebay, particularly where express postage is concerned.

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dazzledayz — Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:52:17 GMT

@jane-de-cluttering wrote:
I have also stumbled across something in Aus Post called ‘Domestic Letter with Tracking’.

It is a cardboard envelope A4 size – max weigh 500gr – max thickness 20mm. Cost = $5.20.

And it’s tracked with their own sticky label tracking number. Insurance and signature are options too.

Even cheaper is the DL-sized envelope which is for max weight 125 gr and 5mm thickness. Cost = $2.10.

Both say they are not suitable for sending small rigid items such as jewellery, keys, coins. But I have, via careful packing so as the whole parcel is the same dimensions as the envelope without any lumpiness.

It was being trialled in a few POs, but even so you could purchase on-line and use anywhere. The trial was a success and it was being extended nation-wide – I think I last heard.

The price of the C4 tracked letter went up to $5.85 on July 1st.

This rate is based on a pack of 10 @ $58.50 (from memory).

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ilce — Sun, 07 Jul 2019 22:54:26 GMT

I used about 30 tracked small letters since the start of the year.

70% of them had no tracking for delivery. They were only good for proving that you lodge the letter at the post office.

All the letters sent to Victoria (from NSW) had no delivery tracking.

All the letters sent to QLD (from NSW) had delviery tracking.

I spoke to Auspost about it and they said the small letters wont be available anymore as not enough people used them.

Looks like the large letters will be but they arent cost effiective.

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curraone — Sun, 07 Jul 2019 23:33:22 GMT

@ilce wrote:

Looks like the large letters will be but they arent cost effiective.

It all depends on what you sell - for me they are very cost effective - many thin books are between 250g and 500g - so they can be posted as a large letter.

Ordinarily with stamps that would be $5. plus the cost of the envelope.

With the new domestic letter envelopes - I can post them for $4.824 each, get tracking, and get a cardboard envelope. What's not to like?

(Buying 50 at a time at the discounted rae of $241.20)

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ilce — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:01:20 GMT

I can see how you like it but I now have my reasons based off my experiance

In your example $5 tracked letter vs $7 satchel (bulk buy)

Yes its around $2 less but to many negatives

With Satchel you dont have the size constraints and the need for it to be flexible. It wont get stuck in mail sorting conveyor and be lost for a week when it jams somehere. Pacels are nearly always tracked on delviery because a driver is delivering them and not the mail person.

The tracked letters have been a nightmare for tracking and I forgot to mention Auspost lost 3 of them out of the 30 I posted. In 20 years of sending tracked parcels I have never lost one.

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digital*ghost — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:39:29 GMT

On the flip side, I've gone through over 200 of the large tracked letters, and I have only had one issue so far (buyer said it wasn't delivered despite being marked as delivered, it was kind of an iffy case though, TBH). Most of my delivery issues over the years have been with tracked parcels (late express deliveries, delivered to the wrong address, MIA for a couple of weeks, etc).

I think the tracked large letters are excellent value for items that can be sent in them (even with the recent price increase), if only for the fact that by comparison, a 250-500g untracked large letter is $5 with nothing but delivery included. If you then want to add tracking to a large letter of that weight, you have to pay over $4 to get it, and the only thing that extra gets you that the pre-paid tracked envelopes don't, is signature on delivery (which many people find annoying, anyway). So, for roughly the same price, you get tracking and insurance (on that note, compensation may be payable - up to $100 - on any undelivered letters). For smaller weights, I still feel the value is there, because to pay for registered on a <125g letter, the cost would still be over $6. (I actually buy the tracked envelopes on eBay, when a 10% code can be applied).

To get $100 insurance on a parcel, you have to add $1.50, so to compare the costs of the services, you'd need to compare them with $100 insurance included (though, many sellers can get discounts on this through My Post Business, eg a 500g satchel with $100 insurance, to an interstate metro location, would cost me $7.97, and I use priority on every letter I send so the cost for one for me is 50c higher than those who don't use priority - currently, with the last lot of envelopes I bought, one costs me $4.84 to send via priority, so over a $3 difference there, and about a $2.50 saving when I have to pay the new price).

Only small letters are required to be flexible, so this isn't a consideration for the large letters (they are made from rigid card themselves, and should not be going through sorting machines). They aren't suitable for everything, of course, and I still put my items in a bubble mailer before putting the items in the tracked envelope (unsealed, so it can at least be re-used by the buyer 🙂 ), anything I use the flat box mailers to send as a letter, can't go in a tracked letter as that will take them over the 2cm restriction.

The only thing I wish is that they had a C5 large letter option. The large ones are overkill for some items, and don't fit in to a lot of letterboxes.

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dazzledayz — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:48:16 GMT

@curraone wrote:
@ilce wrote:

Looks like the large letters will be but they arent cost effiective.
It all depends on what you sell - for me they are very cost effective - many thin books are between 250g and 500g - so they can be posted as a large letter.

Ordinarily with stamps that would be $5. plus the cost of the envelope.

With the new domestic letter envelopes - I can post them for $4.824 each, get tracking, and get a cardboard envelope. What's not to like?

(Buying 50 at a time at the discounted rae of $241.20)

You'll find the pricing changed on 1 July so they're not quite as affordable any more:

$5.95 pre single

$56.50 per pack (less than 10 packs)

$53.60 per pack (10 packs or more)

(minimum cost $268)

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twyngwyn — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 03:02:58 GMT

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/173552900412

$241.20 (using code)