topic Re: GST in Selling

GST

fromauntylynnie — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 21:37:51 GMT

Is eBay legally allowed to charge you GST when you are selling your second hand items?

Why does eBay include the postage cost as part of your selling fee and charge you commission + GST on this.

Why does eBay include the overseas tax as part of your selling fee on an international sale!

Re: GST

repentatleisure1952 — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 22:48:13 GMT

Sigh...

1. GST is charged on the FEES & YES IT'S LEGAL.

2. Fees are charged on the total of the transaction for the last 10 years.

If you want to see more discussions on this then search for them.

3. Go to "Help" on any page & read up on Fees.

As to why it's because they can.

Re: GST

gutterpunkz05 — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 00:04:27 GMT

Simply because ebay fees apply to the total invoice, this has been in place for many many years with the full approval of the ACCC, so yes legal.

GST applys to ebay fees, as it comes under the S.

Re: GST

fromauntylynnie — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 00:22:52 GMT

"3. Go to "Help" on any page & read up on Fees" ...... why this does not explain anything

Re: GST

fromauntylynnie — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 00:24:46 GMT

"GST applys to ebay fees, as it comes under the S." ...... sorry what is "under the S" please

Re: GST

repentatleisure1952 — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 00:35:45 GMT

@fromauntylynnie wrote:
"3. Go to "Help" on any page & read up on Fees" ...... why this does not explain anything

It does if you take the time to read it.

It shows that fees are inclusive of GST, that the fees are charged on the total transaction amount & international sale fees.

Again, as to why these fees are charged... it's eBay's site & is covered in the T & C's.

Re: GST

gutterpunkz05 — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 00:54:51 GMT

GST

Re: GST

countessalmirena — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 00:55:19 GMT

❝Tax on eBay fees

Depending on where you live, Goods and Services Tax (GST), sales tax, Value Added Tax (VAT) or similar consumption tax may apply to your eBay seller fees, regardless of the eBay website you use for listing or selling your items.

If eBay is required to collect such taxes in your jurisdiction, eBay will add the tax as a separate charge on your seller invoice or include the tax in our fees.

Please ensure that your registration address is up to date, so that we know where you are based.

Applying for tax exemption on your eBay fees

If you use your eBay account exclusively for business purposes, you may apply for tax exemption on your eBay fees by providing us with your tax registration number. (In Australia, this will be your ABN; in New Zealand, your GST number.)

Once you've registered for tax exemption, your invoice will show your tax registration number, and be issued net of tax
If, after registering for tax exemption, your circumstances have changed and you no longer qualify as a business, please contact customer service
If you need to make changes to the tax registration number you have added to your eBay account, please contact customer service, who will remove the old number from your account. You can then update it by re-entering your tax registration details

eBay reserves the right to request additional verification regarding your taxable status from you or government authorities as permitted by law. All information related to your taxable status (including personal information and your tax or business registration number) will be processed in accordance with eBay's User Privacy Notice.❞

— https://www.ebay.com.au/help/policies/selling-policies/tax-policy?id=4348

Re: GST

sugar249 — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 07:46:39 GMT

Commission on postage is to combat sellers who sell an item for $10 and whack on a $45.00 postage fee for an item where postage should be $10.00.

Re: GST

davewil1964 — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 09:29:08 GMT

You've been selling for over a year and only just noticed you are being charged what you were told you were going to be charged when you signed up? Good accounting, there.

BTW: the 'S' in GST is services, which is what eBay provide to sellers.

Re: GST

ashi_88 — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:04:59 GMT

What you should be complaining about is;

How the postage amount is applied as a total order amount and then fees' are charged on whole said amount!

Re: GST

fromauntylynnie — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:39:50 GMT

Yes, totally agree - not right - should be illegal!

Re: GST

repentatleisure1952 — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 02:53:11 GMT

@fromauntylynnie wrote:
Yes, totally agree - not right - should be illegal!

Once again... sigh.... there's that word again.

All selling platforms & those who handle payment processing charge fees on the TOTAL amount.

Re: GST

repentatleisure1952 — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 02:56:57 GMT

@ashi_88 wrote:
What you should be complaining about is;

How the postage amount is applied as a total order amount and then fees' are charged on whole said amount!

Mafeking has been relieved.

Re: GST

fromauntylynnie — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 04:17:07 GMT

No, I just got annoyed enough and couldn't find anywhere in ebay to actually complain too! 🐵

Re: GST

sugar249 — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 09:03:08 GMT

LOL, you say it should be totally ilegal, but you think it's fine to sell an item for $10, and charge $45 postage, for something that through Oz post should be less then $10. Me think it's the pot calling the kettle black to suit themselves.

Re: GST

fromauntylynnie — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 09:46:34 GMT

I do not have any items at $45 postage?? The highest is $15 and that is because of weight and size!

Re: GST

domino-710 — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 11:45:06 GMT

Think we are back to Khartoum.

Re: GST

*sons_n_daughters* — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 13:49:22 GMT

No one is suggesting that you are listing with $45 postage, but part of the reason the fees on postage came in was because a lot of sellers were. Sellers who listed with free postage were paying fees on the entire amount. Other sellers would list for 1c with $99.99 postage. They would only be paying fees on the 1c, which is basically impossible. They had to be stopped. And they were, for the most part. Some sellers still try it on, and then get a big surprise when they realise that the fees also extend to the postage cost.

As for GST, you are only paying GST on the FEES for the postage, not the postage amount. So, if you charge $9 for postage and the fees are 90c, you're only paying GST on the 90c (I know fees are a little higher than that, I was just trying to simplify it).

Re: GST

aussie-sams-coins — Sat, 08 Apr 2023 17:14:38 GMT

Lets all please remember Ebay is not there to help individuals to grow and prosper in a so called free market place.

Ebay is just a platform to control and make profit as fast and as much as it/they can.

They as reps for this platform will do what they are paid to do......... Profit, more profit and control the profit of others.

Ebay takes close to $10.000 Australian dollars a year in fees from My little Ebay store. It is a one man show. Now the Australian Tax office want to tax me 33% what I have left, thanks to PayPal contacting the tax office and advising the tax office of my Ebay Store.

I am to soon end my relationship with eBay as I cannot afford to keep working for rule makers and deal breakers. Please take heart in knowing what we already know.... The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.