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    Counterfeit sunglasses

    I recently bought a pair of Maui Jim sunglasses, I wasn't paying attention & unfortunately they came from a dodgy Chinese seller & they are counterfeit. 

    So I put in a return, he supplied what he calls is a return label, all it seems to be is something with an address on it, there is nothing for Australia Post to scan etc... 

    So how would I have proof of postage & it seems you only have so long for it to be returned, going back to China could take ages.... 

    No wonder I don't use Ebay much any more.... 

    So much easier elsewhere. 

    Do I just wait until I can contact ebay ( a real person) & explain the return label is dodgy? 

    Or what? 

    ozzyark
    ozzyark
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    gutterpunkz05

    gutterpunkz05

    ·2 years ago
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    So you get a message from ebay indicating your item has been  posted, so what, as soon as you go to tracking,  it will have shipment notification received, (or words to that effect).

    The next tracking event, IE: 1st Valid shipping event, will state the exact time and date the item was physically shipped, and this must be within the sellers stated handling time, or the seller forfeits ebay protection.

     

     

    So NO!, ebay does not accept the initial shipment notification as proof of postage

                                           
    sandypebbles

    sandypebbles

    ·2 years ago
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    Really, you can use other sites elsewhere and not pay attention/buy from a dodgy seller and not follow that site's policies and get a better result on those sites?

     

     

                                           
    sugar249

    sugar249

    ·2 years ago
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    @sandypebbles wrote:

    Really, you can use other sites elsewhere and not pay attention/buy from a dodgy seller and not follow that site's policies and get a better result on those sites?

     

     

    Exactly,  and it's interesting they say they dont use Ebay anymore,  but they bought a pair of dodgy sunglasses,  plus some boots which gave them a blister,  which I amy add are actually a great brand of boots.

                                           
    sandypebbles

    sandypebbles

    ·2 years ago
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    And the one they gave the neut to for 'uploading tracking but not shipping right away' and eBay should'nt allow this

     

    When it is eBay who does it

                                           
    ozzyark

    ozzyark

    OP2 years ago
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    Guess you don't know how ebay works! 

    They encourage sellers to post things quickly.... 

    So what sellers are doing are supplying a tracking number as if it's been shipped... 

    And EBAY are accepting it as proof of POSTING! 

    When in actual fact the seller doesn't actually ship it until days later! 

     

     

                                           
    domino-710

    domino-710

    ·2 years ago
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    Actually - I think - you are still not paying attention.

     

    Perhaps pay attention to expected delivery dates.

     

    Doesn't arrive by that date - put in a claim - not as described - put in a claim.

     

    The ball is always in the buyers court.

                                           
    twyngwyn

    twyngwyn

    ·2 years ago
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    heads up....I can post tracking number at midnight......eBay then assumes I've posted it....no, I will post in the morning....nothing to do with seller....longstanding flaw in the system

                                           
    cam-2793

    cam-2793

    ·2 years ago
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    The last time I had a return, eBay makes the item as sent as soon as I downloaded the label. I don't have a printer so the next day I went to Officeworks to print it. Then I had to go home and pack it ( because there is a second page that needs to go inside the box, you cannot pack it before you get the label!!!) then I had to take it to the post office ( or newsagent with postal drop-off). It did not get it's first scan until about 9am the next day.

     

    If a seller buys the labels from eBay it will be marked as sent by eBay as soon as they get the label!! Even though they then have to pack it and either drop it with AP/courier or arrange pickup! It is not considered sent until it has received it's first scan.

     

    And please look up the proper definition of the word troll. It is not someone saying something you dislike or disagree with!!!

                                           
    davewil1964

    davewil1964

    ·2 years ago
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    It appears you don't know how eBay works. Sandy has far more experience than you. Maybe take on board the advice you are given rather than attacking members who don't give you the answer you want.

                                           
    countessalmirena

    countessalmirena

    ·2 years ago
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    @ozzyark,

     

    There’s really no need to be combative… The posters here are pointing out ways to avoid bad sellers taking advantage of you.

     

    They’re highly experienced and know how eBay works - by experience and by having g read eBay’s help and policy pages.

     

    As twyngwyn has said, the “your item has been posted” message is a misnaming by eBay when a tracking number has been generated. It’s not the seller telling eBay that they’ve shipped. 

     

     

     

     It is a minor segue though. More importantly, the return postage label. Was it given within the dispute?

                                           
    springyzone

    springyzone

    ·2 years ago
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    @ozzyark wrote:

    Guess you don't know how ebay works! 

    They encourage sellers to post things quickly.... 

    So what sellers are doing are supplying a tracking number as if it's been shipped... 

    And EBAY are accepting it as proof of POSTING! 

    When in actual fact the seller doesn't actually ship it until days later! 

     

    Ebay does want sellers to post within their agreed time range, which you'll see in the ad (eg X business days or whatever) but what you are talking about, the tracking number being supplied before an item has actually been taken to a post office, is standard right across every sales site, not just ebay.

    If you read the wording carefully, you'll see in an email-maybe from Myer, Vistaprint, wherever, that the message will be that a tracking number has been supplied or allocated.

    I bought an absolute heap of stuff online before Xmas and in some emails (not ebay ones) the top of the email would say-Good news! Your item is on its way!

     

    What they really mean is the process has started.

     

    Keep looking at your emails as the next one should follow within a day or two and it will say something such as 'Received at such and such a post office for processing at such and such a time'. That's when you know it is really on its way. If a seller posts in a post box instead of over the counter, you may not even see that or any sign of it in the system for a few more days.

     

    But on ebay, as opposed to other sites, you don't really have to worry too much about the tracking but more about the expected delivery dates. As long as your item arrives within that time, then the seller has fulfilled his obligations to you & it doesn't matter if he posted eg 48 hours after generating a postage label.

    If your item doesn't arrive by the due dates, you are able to open a claim on ebay, so it is in the seller's own interest to arrange things to arrive by then & most do.

                                           
    springyzone

    springyzone

    ·2 years ago
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    If you opened an official ebay claim & a seller from China replied by sending you a dodgy label, then yes, I would get onto chat because as far as I know, overseas sellers cannot issue an Australia Post label, they would need to reimburse you. An ebay rep should know that.

     

    And yes, you are right, a Chinese seller isn't the best bet for authentic brand name sunglasses or authentic anything, on the whole.

                                           
    padi*0409

    padi*0409

    ·2 years ago
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    Did you open an official dispute through eBay or did you organise this through the seller ?

                                           
                                                                                     
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