Fake Ausie Sellers their items are posted from China why bother with EBAY
Summary: djgardner shares their frustration with sellers on eBay who appear to be based in Australia but ship items from China, causing delays. They express a preference for using Aliexpress, which provides better tracking and direct purchases from Chinese sellers. sandypebbles criticizes djgardner’s decision, suggesting they should be more discerning with sellers and open disputes when necessary. countessalmirena warns about the quality and safety risks of items from Chinese sellers not adhering to Australian standards. springyzone advises evaluating the risks associated with buying certain goods directly from China and stresses the importance of supporting local sellers when necessary. They also emphasize understanding seller locations and the potential for receiving mass-produced items from China through eBay.
Hi I live in Australia and have found that some sellers or most of them claim to be in Australia so I choose them, Then find they often take out a delivery through the APO. Then I wait for upto 2 weeks until
the sellers actually gets the item which is coming from China.
So I have started using Aliexpress which shows me the progress of my item through every step wheras with ebay nothing happens for upto a week or more.
SORRY EBAY from now on I will not use EBAY again but instead go direct to China sellers and get my item directly anf cheaper.
sandypebbles
·1 week ago@springyzone It blows my mind how anyone can seriously believe for a second that genuine, reputable brands made in China, who meet Australia safety standards are the same thing as the dodgy brothers in a garage somewhere in China knocking together knock off garbage from scraps and spare parts rejects
It is just common sense the two are nothing alike
I'm sure if someone else's house gets burned down because the person next door thought it was great to buy such items, they might not be so understanding
Just as the person doing the buying will not be covered by any insurance if their buying does result in damage/injury/death
springyzone
·1 week ago · Edited@djgardner
You're falling into the classic buyer trap.
You're assuming that if anything is made in China, then what's it matter who you buy it from. In fact you think if you buy online and get it a lot cheaper you are being smart and just avoiding the middle man. After all, the ones in shops come from China too.
China is notorious for producing cheap knock offs.
Read Countess's post then read it again.
Your stuff might look the same, it may be described as the same. But if it is coming direct from China, it probably is NOT the same. You've been had and there's no comeback.
springyzone
·1 week agoYou have a bigger issue than just dodgy ebay sellers.
You need to decide if some of the items you want to buy are in fact okay to buy from China or if you'd be better off getting one from an Australian based seller.
This is vitally important with, for example, electrical goods, phones, anything like that.
It is important because an item coming direct from china has not had to conform to Australian safety standards. The item in an Australian store may have been made in China but has had to meet our standards, or should have (though don't trust anything in Panda mart).
The other factor is you need to decide if you'd rather support an aussie seller or someone in China.
I have used aliexpress too and it is not unlike ebay in that it is a platform where a lot of different sellers market their products. My experience also was good, but I was only buying wedding favour boxes, nothing potentially dangerous.
If you ever decide to use ebay again, you first need to know that item location does NOT equal seller location. It might show something as being in eg Sydney but don't rely on that. Double check the seller location by clicking on the seller ID and their details in 'About". See where they are registered.
Then check out their recent feedback. If they are dropshippers, you'll often get a mention of it, sometimes even in the positive feedback, but check it all.
Next check out the delivery dates. If it is 2 or 3 weeks off and you're in a metro type of location, suspect drop shipping.
And be aware some types of items are much more likely to be coming from China. Any of the cheap, mass produced stuff.
On the other hand, ebay is great for some of the harder to find or vintage items.
Just make sure you are a more informed buyer before you click to purchase.
countessalmirena
·1 week ago · EditedOne of the problems with buying from Chinese sellers is that - in my opinion - most of the work goes into making the product look as right as possible, and secondarily into ensuring that the product works superficially as required. By "superficially", I mean that the average buyer would not realise that what they've bought is not of the same quality as a genuine branded item made to specific product specifications under contract to a particular company, and by "quality", I mean safety, performance, components used to withstand the product's intended user.
It will probably work at first. It won’t work for as long as an item made to spec would work. It can fail without warning - and in an unsafe way. There’s no warranty and the failure can cause untold damage.
There’s a huge difference between:
items manufactured in China under contract to a reputable brand, required to manufacture to the standard set by the brand (including using the specified raw materials for components as specified), undergoing quality control and having gone through the rigorous and very costly process of certification process to meet the Australian standards and (in the case of electrical items) have EESS Conformity Certification (CCS), and
unbranded items put together by Chinese factory of the cheapest materials possible, designed to sell to gullible westerners without regard for standards and safety.
That's because the very same factories in which Chinese will manufacture goods under contract to companies, using the required materials for components, with full quality control, may also be used by the same Chinese to produce knock-offs of the very products they are legitimately producing.
(Of course, it needn't be the same factories; some are dedicated factories that only deal with knock-offs, some will only produce legitimate goods for the specific company/companies, but it is not unusual for a factory to be doing dual duty - fake and legitimate.)
I cannot stress this enough. The knock-offs will use the very cheapest components and raw materials that can be got away with. Bad enough when this is for textiles and makeup and perfumes (think of potentially or known carcinogenic dyes or fixatives in wool or fabric; known irritants and/or toxic substances in makeup and fragrances)... but it's even worse when it comes to electronic/electrical goods. Components that can't tolerate what happens when the item is used, or will only tolerate it for a short time before failing because the raw materials are not used as required by the product specs - that isn't just about failure of the item, but potentially about fire, shock, explosion - and hence to tragic outcomes.
And don’t think for a moment that your insurance will cover you in such an event. Non-compliant electrical goods causing fires are behind many of the tragedies in the news - of houses entirely destroyed, of other expensive goods damaged, of severe injuries to oneself or to family members, or agonising deaths to those unlucky enough to be in proximity of the fire.
Regulatory Compliance
“There are regulations that apply to the supply of electrical equipment and appliances. The requirements set out in the regulations must be followed. A failure to do so is a criminal offence.”
“Regulations and Standards apply to all electrical equipment sold or offered for supply in Australia. Certain types of equipment are classified as prescribed. These pieces of equipment must go through a certification process which ensures the equipment is compliant to the relevant safety standards before being offered for supply in Australia.”
“Regulatory Compliance Mark (RCM)
Prescribed electrical products must have an RCM on the appliance or an Australian approval number to show that the product has been certified.
This mark is currently recognised by all States and Territories of Australia.”
djgardner
OP1 week agoHi sandypebbles.
This is what has happened to me lately.
I want to get an item listed on ebay.
find the item and check to see if the seller is an Australian seller.
If so select the item thinking I should get it quickly,
Then find many get a tracking number from the APO.
Then wait upto two weeks for watching the tracking until the Post office say thay have it cantake upto 2 weeks. Assume then that the item had to come from China nmaybe even Ali express.
So recently bought a Ebike Controller directly from Aliexpress.
Received a notification at every step of the transition until it arrived at my home.
The ebike controller works great so not a SCAM. So you stick with EBAY "scammers" just remember if the item travels from China either through an Ebay seller or Aliexpress then you must believe all Chinese sellers are scammers wether on Ebay or some othe seller in China. I buy alot of electronic parts if you know some othe source of electronics made in other place than China then let me know.
sandypebbles
·1 week agoPosting on the member to member forum is not communicating with eBay
If the estimated delivery date is 2 weeks away, it is pretty obvious the seller is not in Australia, nor posting from Australia
It shows were the seller is registered
Their feedback shows how dodgy they are
Funny you are happy to support Aliexpress scammers instead of eBay scammers
Yes, why bother is
You are happy to buy from just anyone, without caring who it is you are buying from
And choose not to open disputes when needed
And choose not to leave negs where needed
Really no point in telling other members you are not going to use eBay