New Queensland Knife Laws and eBay keywords
Summary: The discussion centers around the new knife laws in Queensland and how they might impact eBay keyword usage related to these changes. Several participants discuss the implications for sellers and buyers in the region, particularly focusing on how these laws might affect online listings and keyword strategies.
I understand the what and the why behind restricting knife sales. But eBay seems to have done an all or nothing approach.
I can not bid on any military items such as bayonets, despite being allowed to buy and over 18 it seems to be a blanket ban - if you live in Qld you can’t buy.
But even keywords are a problem (military medal listed as “with swords” which is a design feature) flagging as not able to be purchased. When seller changed the wording I was able to buy.
Can anyone suggest a workaround?
kh-federico
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sjdebreceny
·6 months agoAs an Aged Pensioner, I am all for restricting the sale of knifes to minors, along with firearms, E-bikes, and most everything else that irresponsible children of today should not have access to. However, my hobby is electronics, and I frequently use an art carving knife. Unfortunately, I can not buy the item, as EBAY has banned the sale of knives to Queensland, as per the recently released QLD legislation on the sale of knives to minors. However, EBAY has never offered an adult a means to prove they are not minors, and the sale of sharps has been applied as a blanket ban in QLD. Surely, common sense (even today) must uphold.
sandypebbles
·6 months agoSurely they must be available places other than eBay
And it is not recent , this thread alone is over a year old
I don't agree that anyone should be given special treatment. How do you intend to prove to eBay you are not buying it for a child for a start?
Your hobby is not more important than people's lives
Being an aged pensioner has nothing to do with anything
etb321
·1 year agoI still think the Qld politicians 'banning the knife' laws for teenagers addresses a symptom, not the cause. Why is life as a teenager in Qld so fearful there is perceived need to have a knife when out and about? Prior to 'banning the knife' the Qld qovernment would have looked at a much wider set of statistices including teenage crime, drug use and suicide rate, in comparison with the other states, and got a real shock.
faek-4
·1 year agoYeah I'm have trouble buying a lanyard bead because the word knife is in title. It's a bead. eBay wanted me to contact seller and get them to remove word knife so I could buy it. How ridiculous. I refused to do this. Their other suggestion was ' do I know someone in nsw' . All this is disconnected. I'm still waiting for a response as promised in transcript, but nothing. As u have to be over 18 to be on eBay anyway, we are being punished for what?. Guess I'll have to drive over the border to buy pointy things lol
k1ooo-slr-sales
·1 year agothere have been a few threads opened by Queenslanders about this.
I think those of us outside of Queensland are reluctant to publicly suggest methods of circumventing Queensland laws, even if we have ideas of workarounds.
I think you need to contact your local member of parliament.
letscleanupmycupboards
OP1 year agoNobody is trying to circumvent laws.
law is that sales of knives to those under 18 is prohibited. I’m well over 18 as should be most eBay buyers. That’s the stupidity of it.
Plus basing it on keywords is silly.
k1ooo-slr-sales
·1 year agothe first 'restricted item' you mentioned was a bayonet, with a question at the end about workarounds.
That sounds a bit like circumventing a law designed to control pointed/sharp implement sales in Queensland.
I, like many here, sympathise with the genuine eBayers who have been affected by eBay's attempt at complying with laws aimed at reducing knife crime.
If I publicly gave a workaround to help an over 18 militaria collector buy a bayonet, that same workaround could be used by a 13 year old who accesses a sibling/parent eBay account to buy a machete.
I think others would think this same way.
sandypebbles
·1 year ago100% without question
One only needs to look at the number of posts from buyers demanding they be able to cancel a purchase because 'their child bought without them knowing'
Now usually these excuses could not be a bigger load of nonsense, but since we are suppose to believe these kids are hoping on mums and dads accounts/not being supervised on the computer/parents simply don't give a rats
Age does not exempt anyone from choosing to carry out knife crime
The harder we make it for such 'people' the better IMHO
letscleanupmycupboards
OP1 year agoThe knife laws however do not prevent me from buying or owning a bayonet knife sword etc. they are intended to restrict sales to younger teens and require sellers to check ID at the time of a sale.
Its not really a question of the law but more about how eBay has dealt in absolutes by saying if you have a Qld address you can’t buy a knife despite the fact that does not reflect the law or its purpose. Yet I can legally walk into any shop and buy a kitchen knife.
How many teen crims are going to use a $300 collectable? They will use a $20 kitchen knife.
twyngwyn
·1 year agoEBay have managed it on the UK site, by requiring proof of age
gutterpunkz05
·1 year agoUK is not relevant to the QLD legislation, even if ebay checked proof of age, as required by the legislation, that does not negate the need for every single seller to also verify age of buyers.
Ebay said they are over 18, does not suffice.
In QLD retail anyone who appears under 25, must provide proof of age. Acceptable proof is limited to specific forms of ID.
Retail staff, must be trained and certified to sell a knife, etc etc etc ..............etc.
The Australian Retailers Association was tasked with educating and advising retailers in relation to the legislation introduction. There first advice, basicly, if you don't have a need to sell knives, don't. And many retailers have taken that advice and removed knives from sale.
Unrelated, Coles has now removed knives from sale, Australia wide. Just wait till all retailers realize that they have a duty of care to there staff and customers.
randall0704
·1 year agoWell, I guess we'll have to withdraw anything with a sharp point from sale in wonderful Qld. Including ball point pen, pencils, and anything else with a point or blade even razors. Lo
k1ooo-slr-sales
·1 year agoI think the Queensland address restriction is just a veiled admission from eBay that they can not guarantee that under-18s will not use this platform.
I agree that teens wouldn't bother with $300 collectables, but can we at least agree that if members publicly provided a Queensland buyer with a workaround to enable them to buy a blocked item that under-18s might use that same workaround to buy a $20 knife?
sandypebbles
·1 year agoAnd they absolutely would
One doesn’t even need to an eBay account to read the forum as we all know
So those that want to buy these items in order to get their jollies would be lapping it up
And telling their mates where to go to get such information
imastawka
·1 year agoOnly do as you have done.
Get the seller to change the wording and explain why.
letscleanupmycupboards
OP1 year agoA pain to find out at the time of bidding though. And like most I like to bid 30 seconds from the end.
domino-710
·1 year agoBegs the question - can Queenslanders still buy cookware. 😂
k1ooo-slr-sales
·1 year agoI have long advised that members bid early, at a low increment, on auction items that they are interested in.
The advantage of bidding early, is that you get reminders from eBay about the end time of the auction. Also, the item is then on your bid/offer list.
By all means, bid in the final seconds but also bid early. It would alert you of problems with bidding on items restricted in Queensland days ahead of the scramble at the end.