Was I too harsh?
Summary: A participant started a discussion titled "Was I too harsh?" but provided no content. k1ooo-slr-sales responded multiple times, and sandypebbles, along with others, engaged in further dialogue involving twyngwyn, padi*0409, and other participants such as *casey*. The discussion seems to have multiple layers with various interactions, but without specific content from any of the participants, the nature of being "too harsh" remains unclear. Several other participants like springyzone, countessalmirena, and i-once-was-bump also contributed, yet the absence of discussion details makes it challenging to assess any specific outcome or resolution.
So I won an auction today for a new PC for probably about 60% of RRP (approx $650). I paid, then noticed a message from the seller. They stated they couldn't sell it that cheap but would I pay $1199 instead and they'd give free postage ($45). I said no and they offered 3 years warranty. I said out of my budget so they offered me $1100 instead. I pointed out they were breaching ebay policies and I couldn't pay more. They cancelled the sale. I reported them to ebay and left negative feedback, starting with don't buy from this seller. The thing is, it was their first sold item ever. They questioned why I left them negative feedback (which was kind of obvious). Should I have just explained what they did wrong and how to fix it (I did say in the feedback that they shouldn't start bidding at a price they are unwilling to sell at)? So now I'm second guessing my feedback.
i-once-was-bump
·1 year agoWhen I went to look at the listings I got "No longer a registered user".
sandypebbles
·1 year agoThe scammer who the OP left feedback for is, as has been posted
The same scammer's other ID is still active
*casey*
·1 year agoTwo down - One to go.
Different picture. Item 186762146260
twyngwyn
·1 year agoSomeone is Shepparton has too much time on their hands; probably watching this thread & getting their jollies 😒
sandypebbles
·1 year agoSmall things ..............
countessalmirena
·1 year agoIt’s a case of “cache me if you can”.
*casey*
·1 year agoI wonder if he's accepting lower offers on Marketplace .
His gaming table is listed as used - like new there, although apparently he can build them for an extra $10.
His PC is listed as new there though.
I was hoping to see a picture of the back of a truck, the one it may have fallen off !
k1ooo-slr-sales
·1 year agolistings are back up
*casey*
·1 year agoUnbelievable !!!
The last lot of listings , except for one, have been removed by eBay and now they've allowed another lot to be listed.
padi*0409
·1 year agoI was under the impression that if eBay removed the listings they didn't show up in "completed listings". Although not all of the completed listings for the computers are showing now.
Maybe I'm wrong..............
*casey*
·1 year agoYes, that's right.
I only looked at the seller's completed listings which only showed one, so there may still be a few floating around then.
*casey*
·1 year agoWell done eBay.
Seller is NARU
sandypebbles
·1 year agoNot too harsh at all
I do think you need to report the listing and the seller though
Both scream scammer
noverau
OP1 year agoYep, did that straight away.
sandypebbles
·1 year agoGreat to hear
Hopefully a real person will really look at it and act
I have reported some real doozy sellers/items and almost always get the response the listing was fine (looked at by an agent) one such listing was used undies they were supposedly 'fine'
Mind boggles
domino-710
·1 year agoNo - not too harsh.
Think you dodged a bullet - they sure have a heap of the same computer. 😀
NB - directed at the OP - not you Sandy.
padi*0409
·1 year agoNo current listings now Dom, all ended today..................
sandypebbles
·1 year agoHopefully eBay is in the process of pulling the plug on their asp
There were more computers than under 'completed' and a bunch of other carp when I hit the button this morning
sandypebbles
·1 year agoWishful thinking on my part
They have since listed another computer
springyzone
·1 year agoThe answer from me is a resounding no, you were absolutely NOT too harsh.
From what K1ooo said, it sounds as if you dodged a bullet, but even supposing this was a genuine seller, there is no excuse for this behaviour.
Any seller with any brains would read the selling guidelines and the fee structure before they listed.
Sure, some new sellers get caught out and start auctions too low, but in that case I would expect them to just write and say 'I am so sorry, I made a big mistake listing at that price and have to cancel the auction.'
What I wouldn't expect is a demand for several hundred more dollars, privately, off ebay basically. Seriously, that is against ebay policy and no good for buyer protection either. I wouldn't touch it, even if he had 'lowered' the price even more.
As for the 3 years warranty, where was that supposed to be coming from?
This seller doesn't look to be running a steady business, he doesn't look to be some authorised seller, he can say whatever he wants, but it doesn't mean any warranty exists. If it did, why would it not have been mentioned in the original ad.
The guy is lying to you. He is also blatantly breaking ebay rules, he deserves every bit of your feedback.
If he is a scammer, it is a warning to others.
If he is geunuine, it's a wake up call to tell him to get his act together.
My advice to you though would be to have a look at these PCs in stores, there are Black Friday sales coming up. You may not nab one for $650 but then again, you'd be getting a genuine one with a genuine warranty.
k1ooo-slr-sales
·1 year agoI just looked at that seller's listings.
I really think you did dodge a bullet.
Member since 25th October 2024, 0 sales but 7 listings for the same computer, all with stock pics, has to be a scam.
eBay wouldn't let a new member/seller sell that many high priced items.
At least they now have a -1 feedback score.
Reminds me of 'Ricky', who was selling empty boxes and came here to these boards seeking help to ensure they wouldn't have to refund buyers.
k1ooo-slr-sales
·1 year agofor anybody who was wondering about Ricky, here are links to two threads by him (they are old, do not post on them).
here's Ricky 👇
https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/Selling-500Gb-PS4-Jet-Black-Original-Box-HDMI-Brand-New-Is-this/td-p/2026819
and
https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/PlayStation-VR-500Gb-PS4-Slim-PS4-Camera-Stan-Bundle-Brand-New/td-p/2027518
Cheers
*casey*
·1 year agoThis is the same seller using a different ID
https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?item=405322710890&rt=nc&_ssn=yooitzaryooitzar0&LH_Complete=1
twyngwyn
·1 year agodisappeared again!
Items for sale by yooitzaryooitzar0 | eBay
sandypebbles
·1 year agostill there for me
Just showing 'ended' on them all (although looking at 'current' listings' )
padi*0409
·1 year ago"Ended 3-november-2024"
sandypebbles
·1 year agoYes I know (today some time) but that screenshot is what shows up when clicking on their link, not under 'completed' listings, they are on the current listing page. Just like the one yesterday was before they got canned
They should not be showing on the normal page
(and in this case, not at all)
k1ooo-slr-sales
·1 year agoyou probably did them a favour, to be honest.
First time seller selling a new computer would be a prime target for a scammer who would send a message about eBay Escrow holding funds til item sent and producing a faked payment receipt. They would end up with no computer and no money.
And, sellers giving warranties is just BS, especially a new seller offering 3 year warranty. Its laughable.
I reckon you dodged a bullet on this one.