Drop ship sellers are misleading buyers...
Summary: classeekmoto raises concerns about items advertised as being sold from Australia but shipped from overseas, leading to delays and allegedly misleading advertising. sandypebbles argues that buyers have the responsibility to verify seller details and warns against supporting deceptive sellers. The discussion includes points on eBay’s policies and the role of buyers in verifying seller locations. Another participant explains how to check seller registration information to avoid confusion. classeekmoto insists that misleading advertising violates Australian law, while sandypebbles emphasizes personal responsibility in purchasing decisions.
Items are being sold as being in Australia at point of sale, items are then advised as sent when the tracking shows no movement past 10 business days.
I've had one late deliver (10 days+) from Amazon USA whilst being told that it was sent through Australia Post by a seller who stated the item was already sent in Australia when sent.
Two other have come late from Dock A3, 11 lord St Street Botany NSW 2019. Both were from different sellers.
False and Misleading advertising and selling is a violation in Australia so it might be time for eBay to look into and correct this before the ACCC and/or Dept of fair trading get's involved.
sandypebbles
·2 weeks agoLike this one you mean?
payments on hold payment release after delivery 5 months old account | Ask a member | eBay Australia
Dodgy drop shipper who has the hide to ask other members how they can keep doing what they are doing and get their funds 'right away'?
Funny how I get accused of being one of them (all because I know, as the majority of people know that feedback is public and because I did not use my selling ID to post here), yet when someone who really is one (and asks for help to keep being one) someone who says they are so concerned about buyers being mislead has nothing to say?
Further proof eBay knows about these 'sellers' and they fully support them whilst honest, decent sellers get the blame for it
twyngwyn
·3 weeks agoIf you sort by ‘distance’ it won’t eliminate drop shippers, but it SHOULD give you items that are actually in Australia
countessalmirena
·3 weeks agoOP, when you look at a listing, it seems that you are conflating the “item location” with “seller location” (aka seller’s country of registration).
To see seller’s country of registration, click onto their feedback score or seller name link. From there, click onto either “See all feedback” at the bottom, or onto seller name at the top. From here you’ll find yourself on the seller’s page that had the following tabs: Shop | Sale | About | Feedback. Click onto “About”. The seller’s country of registration is shown.
Seller country of registration is not editable. (Item location is, however, an editable field, so it can be misleading and a buyer should not rely on that as indicating where the seller is.)
eBay are of course aware of the potential for a seller’s listing being misleading. They cover themselves by having a policy stating that falsifying item location is not permitted. If eBay were serious about this policy, they’d be policing this and acting in a timely manner when a false item location is reported. They don’t. The conclusion is obvious: it’s financially and strategically benefiting eBay.
In other words, to protect yourself, if you want to know where a seller is located*, do a quick three clicks to check country of registration.
*Quite a few Chinese seller use logistics companies with access to large warehouses in Australia to keep stock of (often) unbranded cheaply-churned-out stuff in Australia. Theoretically speaking, then, the use of “Australia” as item location may be true. It may equally be out of stock in the warehouse, on its way on a pallet, bundled up on a wharf at a Chinese port, still in the Chinese factory, etc., as per “Just in Time” supply chain management, whereby if it could be in Australia, has previously been in Australia, is in its way to Australia, it is planned to be in Australia, then it’s classed as in Australia. Bacon-brained supply management terminology …
As to seeing feedback left, it’s a simple matter of clicking into a username.
sandypebbles
·3 weeks agoeBay are well aware of it and they allow it
Just because eBay refuse to do anything does not make it ok for buyers to choose to support such sellers
All the information is there to avoid these 'sellers'
The most recent seller you left the neg for - garbage feedback, shows registered in China, you bought from them anyway
The other seller, garbage feedback, including over 500 eBay automated feedback with no buyer input, you bought from them anyway
It might be time for buyers to care about who they buy from, rather than choose to support these dodgy sellers and then complain about their poor buying choices to other members
classeekmoto
OP3 weeks ago(1) eBay's own seller recommendation is not always accurate
(2) As for "It might be time for buyers to care about who they buy from"
Maybe it might be time for eBay drop shipping sellers to be made to tell the truth in their listings...
(3) False and Misleading is still False and Misleading and passing the buck to the buyer does little for confidence in legit eBay sellers...
(4) (The most recent seller you left the neg for - garbage feedback, shows registered in China, you bought from them anyway)
That seller clearly stated the location was in Granville Australia...
(5) How the hell do you know about my recent feedback...??
*casey*
·3 weeks ago · Edited@classeekmoto
"eBay's own seller recommendation is not always accurate"
We all hate to see these shonky sellers given the title of:
Top Rated Seller
xxxx is one of eBay's most reputable sellers.
Consistently delivers outstanding customer service
We all hate to see the positive automated feedback given by eBay to these shonky sellers, boosting their feedback score and %
But both of the sellers you last left negative feedback for could apply to have the feedback removed because both items showed a delivery timespan of within 10 business days.
sandypebbles
·3 weeks agoWhat is with the ??
Feedback is on public display, anyone anywhere in the world can see what you or any other person who leaves feedback writes, even those who do not have an eBay account
And every buyer who comes on complaining about these scammer sellers are supporting those sellers, helping them stay in business simply because they do not care one iota who they are buying from
It does not tell you what suburb the seller is in, the item location is not the same as where the seller is registered, given the seller is not selling themselves
Nobody is passing the buck, the buck stops with buyers, buyers choosing who they buy from
Buyers should care who they are buying from, instead of ‘it was listed so I had to buy it’ and refusing to take any responsibility whatsoever for their own free choice
classeekmoto
OP3 weeks agoI guess you have never run a business in Australia.
Under Section 18 of the Australian Consumer Law (ACL), businesses are strictly prohibited from engaging in conduct that misleads, deceives, or is likely to mislead or deceive. Intention to deceive is irrelevant; liability depends on whether the overall impression created for a reasonable audience is false.
sandypebbles
·3 weeks agoIronic statement, and one done to death from buyers supporting scammer sellers
Every listing states sellers are responsible for all listings
ACL does not cover China, where the dodgy seller you supported is registered, and shows that they are registered there
By all means report to anyone you want
The time you spent posting here, telling other members about your buying choices, you could have taken less than one minute if that time and checked the sellers feedback
You would have instantly seen how many red dots/neg feedback/complaints other buyers have left
again, your buying choices, helping dodgy sellers
Argue all you want, you had all the information to avoid them, yet you supported them
And no, I have never run a business
I have also never blamed everyone else for atrocious buying choices
classeekmoto
OP3 weeks ago · Edited"You would have instantly seen how many red dots/neg feedback/complaints other buyers have left"
A lot of feedback is private as to what was bought and volume sellers can have negative feedback removed.
You are putting the onus on buyers, So why don't you explain to me why the drop shippers can't tell buyers that they are drop shipping...??
sandypebbles
·3 weeks agoIt does not matter if the buyer had their purchases as private, the red dot still shows
It still shows how many eBay automated feedback are there
It still shows how many revised feedback is there
Sorry, why shouldn’t the onus be on the buyer to care who they are buying from?
You are supposed to be over 18 to use eBay, a responsible adult
You have still yet to answer what use an announcement from the buyer the drop ship would be
As if a dodgy seller would they themselves announce they a dodgy
The buyer choice to ignore where the seller is registered, their negs, their eBay automated feedback, their photos lifted from other sites, any unusually long postage times for items supposedly in Australia etc etc, that would be ignored too
But you are more interested in questing why my profile is set to private than be pro active and take responsibility for your own buying choices
classeekmoto
OP3 weeks agoHow come you have no profile when searched for...??
0 results for sandypebbles
sandypebbles
·3 weeks ago · EditedI DO have a profile (it shows where this profile is registered, when it was opened etc
I do not sell on this ID hence you not be able to find a selling profile for sandlypebbles
BIG difference so kindly stop making up nonsense
What is your point?
That's right, just another attempt to distract from the fact you are supporting dodgy sellers
And yes, eBay do indeed allow you to have more than 1 ID and if fact they strongly encouraged people to not use their selling ID to post on the forum with
PS
Since you want to make up the little 'no profile' line, here you go, found it for you
sandypebbles on eBay
Or you could have clicked 'view listings'
If you mean my forum profile, is is set to private
Neither of which have anything to do with your buying choices and it shows you would rather spend your time doing anything other than caring about who you are buying from
You have certainly gone out of your way to show you do not have the first clue about one single function eBay
You didn't know the item location is not the same as where seller registered, you did not know feedback is public, you invent I have no profile just to name a few
Stop deflecting