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    HH $2 dollar Australian coins 1988 and 1989

    Summary: The discussion revolves around the interest in $2 Australian coins from 1988 and 1989 marked 'HH.' Participants appear to share information and possibly their experience or queries regarding these coins, but specific content cannot be distilled from the given posts as they contain no detailed discussions.

    To all you scammers trying to sell these rubbish coins. Do your homework before you go ripping people off.  A worthless coin. So many scam eBay ads and you're all stupid. Truly dumb picking this obviously worthless coin to rip people off with. Luckily Ebay are well aware and will take them down if we report them.

     

    DO NOT BUY THESE COINS. THEY ARE WORTHLESS. 

    peacefulsoul72
    peacefulsoul72
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    kh-federico

    kh-federico

    ·7 months ago
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    Hi bestbits2,

    Please note that this is an old post; feel free to start a new thread, as this one will be locked.

    Thanks,

    eBay moderation

                                           
    bestbits2

    bestbits2

    ·7 months ago
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    Just picked up on this thread, been away for years.

    Anyway, have a look at the seelers advertising these $2 coins, mostly F/B in the single digits, they know nothing, they copy other people who know nothing, and they are all "experts" who were born yesterday.

    Have a look at their other listings, many coins on sale for ridiculous prices, and the reason why is because they know nothing.

    When I see listings with "make an offer" with free postage I make an offer for face value.

                                           
    shawil2166

    shawil2166

    ·1 year ago
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    HH $2 coins for $800 

                                           
    springyzone

    springyzone

    ·1 year ago
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    @shawil2166 wrote:

    HH $2 coins for $800 

    Not sure what your question is. From what I have read here, all the $2 coins had the HH till a certain date so they aren't rare.

    Basically, before anyone shells out $800 for any  coin, I'd hope they did their homework, or at least a google search. Or already have some knowledge beccause it was a hobby of theirs.

    It doesn't strike me as the sort of item that would normally be an impulse buy for most people.

     

                                           
    sandypebbles

    sandypebbles

    ·1 year ago
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    Don't buy them

     

    very very simple

     

    And kindly stop spamming the forum with the same comment over and over, it is pointless

                                           
    shawil2166

    shawil2166

    ·1 year ago
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    Do you know how much the HH $2 coin 

                                           
    sandypebbles

    sandypebbles

    ·1 year ago
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    Do you mean how much it is worth?

     

    It is worth $2

     

    Unless of course you want to convert it to another currency, then it would be less

     

    You can Google it

     

    Not rare, not unique

     

    A common a dish water $2 coin worth two bucks 

                                           
    countessalmirena

    countessalmirena

    ·2 years ago
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    Yes, they definitely should! I can’t imagine forking out a lot of money for a coin without having expert knowledge - or having done the research and getting some expert advice from a disinterested source.

                                           
    countessalmirena

    countessalmirena

    ·2 years ago
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    It is an interesting bit of Australian history, though…

     

    I am happy for anything to divert my mind at the moment.

     

     

     

     

    I agree that people without expertise and experience can really increase a problem with coins that are not collectors’ items.

                                           
    domino-710

    domino-710

    ·2 years ago
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    The thing is - Countess - collectors will do their homework.

     

    Especially with coins.

                                           
    numismatichemist

    numismatichemist

    ·2 years ago
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    In case any non-coin-collector reading this is wondering what all the fuss is about: when the $2 coin was first launched in 1988, they carried the initials of designer Horst Hahne. Unfortunately, the location chosen to place these initials was underneath the Aboriginal elder's armpit - making it look like "the black fella had been branded". For coins from 1990, the HH initials were removed.

     

    The scammers are marketing the "1988 HH" coins as some kind of rare error that escaped being withdrawn and destroyed. But in truth, every single 1988-dated $2 coin has the HH initials. These coins were not destroyed, melted down, or otherwise officially withdrawn. 160 million of them were made in 1988, and 31 million in 1989, and probably at least half of these coins still exist - so they are not by any logical definition rare.

     

    Of course, with enough scammers pushing the myth, there are plenty of secondary hype-train riders, who see other people selling 1988 HH coins for big money, find one of their own in change, honestly believe they've found a valuable coin and decide to join the fray. Those people are acting out of ignorance, but are nevertheless helping to perpetuate the myth. It is those "innocent bystanders" who we hope might read this thread and be dissuaded from joining in.

     

    Unfortunately, asking ludicrous prices for common worth-only-face-value coins is neither illegal, nor against eBay policy. As Dilbert's Boss said, there's no law against optimism. EBay could put a stop to it by re-imposing high fees for listing high-list-price items whether such items sell or not, but they choose not to do so. Of course, if there's an outright lie int he listing, eBay could probably remove it.

                                           
    sugar249

    sugar249

    ·2 years ago
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    Exactly there is no law against optimistic sales prices.

     

    And in reality they are not scammers, just optimists.

     

    ''innocent bystanders'' as you put it, should be doing their research and they would find that the same coins are available for a handful of dollars and wonder why.   Sometimes ''innocent bystanders'' are the ones who actually create the issue by failing to do due diligence.

                                           
    peacefulsoul72

    peacefulsoul72

    OP2 years ago
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    Fishing for a newbie and you blame the newbie. If you sell it at this price then you have successfully scammed someone. Along with the fraudulent wording RARE. You mean the least rarest coin australia has. You're finding reasons why it's OK to scam. Everyone I find gets a police report. Explain it to them

                                           
    sandypebbles

    sandypebbles

    ·2 years ago
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    Explain why you are abusing and accusing other members?

     

    And having a tantrum at factual replies

     

     

     

    Nobody here has listed these coins

     

    Nobody here is responsible for scamming anyone

     

    Nobody is finding reasons why it 'is ok' to list these

     

    Nobody here has supported scammer sellers buy buying said coins

     

     

    Take it up with those people. People who keep scammers in business 

     

    Nobody here has to explain the listings  you have reported to the police, that is for you do

     

     

                                           
    sandypebbles

    sandypebbles

    ·2 years ago
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    The so called innocent bystanders have a dozen other warnings here on the forum alone about the said coin

     

    Must be nice to have THAT amount of money to just drop with zero research and zero care about what it is you are buying 

                                           
    peacefulsoul72

    peacefulsoul72

    OP2 years ago
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    Must be nice knowing you don't give a **bleep** about scamming someone. All these excuses 

                                           
    domino-710

    domino-710

    ·2 years ago
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    Helpful - but why would - ' non collectors ' be even interested.

                                           
    peacefulsoul72

    peacefulsoul72

    OP2 years ago
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    They're fishing for newbies to the coin game. Copying other scammer posts 

                                           
    paper-jack

    paper-jack

    ·2 years ago
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    Would scammers have the time to read these boards? Surely they'd either be working on their next evil deed or counting piles of gold coins.

                                           
    peacefulsoul72

    peacefulsoul72

    OP2 years ago
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    This is for all to read. Figure it out dude

                                           
    sandypebbles

    sandypebbles

    ·2 years ago
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    No need to yell at people here

     

     

     

    Also ,yell at the buyers and call them names, they are the ones who choose to buy garbage and keep dodgy sellers in business by supporting the behaviour 

     

    Or exercise a tiny amount of common sense 

                                           
    sugar249

    sugar249

    ·2 years ago
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    At the end of the day,  a coin or any item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.  So if someone wants to pay $7000 for a $2 item, thats their option.  I wouldn't recommend it,  but surely they should be doing some research before spending big dollars.

     

    Now if they were listing 1991 $2 coins that would be a real scam

                                           
    davewil1964

    davewil1964

    ·2 years ago
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    Surely they are worth $2?

     

    And who do you think you are preaching to?

     

    The frequenters of the boards are up with all the scams, so your 'warning' is fruitless.

                                           
    peacefulsoul72

    peacefulsoul72

    OP2 years ago
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    If it sells then you have successfully scammed someone. Police have already been notified. Everytime I see one. Good luck scamming 

                                           
    padi*0409

    padi*0409

    ·2 years ago
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    @peacefulsoul72 wrote:

    If it sells then you have successfully scammed someone you mor0n. Police have already been notified. Everytime I see one. Good luck scamming 

     

    He said in truth that it was worth $2.00, that's all.....................

     

    No scam there at all.

                                           
    countessalmirena

    countessalmirena

    ·2 years ago
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    @peacefulsoul72 wrote:

    If it sells then you have successfully scammed someone you mor0n. Police have already been notified. Everytime I see one. Good luck scamming 


    First of all, the opprobrium is not permitted on the boards; the moderators give a bit of leeway in the spirit of characterful freedom of expression and Shakespearean liveliness, but you’ve probably crossed the line here.

     

    Secondly, you have used the term without cause, appear to have misunderstood the substance and form of the post to which you’ve replied, and assumed (the Lord only knows why) that davewil is a seller of the coins about which you are so perturbed.

     

    You’ve made similar replies to sugar and sandypebbles, and adjured paperjack to “figure it out”. 

    It’s been pointed out that buyers need to be aware of scams and help themselves by not buying out of ignorance. That does not equal “We approve of scammers” or giving scammers a free pass; it’s merely pointing out the old old adage “Caveat emptor”.

     

    No one who’s posted here is selling these coins or pretending that they are rare.

     

    It has however been pointed out that putting an unrealistic price on an item is not the same thing as scamming someone. A scam would involve misrepresentation as to the item’s authenticity or brand or function etc. I think it’s a bit of a fine line - but saying that an item is rare (when it’s not) is qualitatively different to saying an item is X when it’s actually Y. Let’s say a seller claims that silver sugar tongs are by Hester Bateman when they’re actually by an unknown silversmith, or that they’re solid silver when they’re silver plated (or just a silver coloured cheaper metal) or a modern reproduction not even of the period …

     

    Do you see what I mean? Those examples are different to a seller listing said silver tongs by Hester Bateman and saying their design by Bateman is incredibly rare and that they’re worth thousands of pounds. Even a cursory look will show a new inexperienced collector that the design is not extraordinarily rare and will see the average price. It’s puffery. If done deliberately to fool a potential buyer, it would be foolish and unlikely to get many nibbles; it’s so easily disproved!

     

    I wouldn’t do it myself (if I were a seller) but it wouldn’t get a seller charged with a crime.

     

    Ditto with the coin sellers of the coin you’ve mentioned. 

     

     

     

     

    Clearly this is upsetting you personally… but that is no excuse for making false accusations and name-calling.

     

                                           
    davewil1964

    davewil1964

    ·2 years ago
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    @peaceful,

     

    Did you bother to read what I wrote over TWO months ago?

     

    It would appear not.

                                           
    stekarcollections

    stekarcollections

    ·1 year ago
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    Then why so many coins in the 'sold' at crazy prices? The scam continues and some are being sucked in.

                                           
    padi*0409

    padi*0409

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    @stekarcollections wrote:

    Then why so many coins in the 'sold' at crazy prices? The scam continues and some are being sucked in.

     

    Caveat Emptor comes to mind "A fool and their money".......................

                                           
    domino-710

    domino-710

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    @stekarcollections wrote:

    Then why so many coins in the 'sold' at crazy prices? The scam continues and some are being sucked in.

    Forget the coins - they are obviously a rip off.

     

    I have a Bridge. 

                                           
                                                                                     
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