https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2446910#M1568 <P>This entire thread is an offering to the god of didnotusebrainatfullcapacity.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I am not saying that people who fall for these scams are stupid. Sometimes it's lack of experience, and sometimes it's naïveté, and sometimes it's (I'm sorry to say) being blinded by greed.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><OL><LI>However it may be, the <STRONG><FONT color="#3366FF">first sign</FONT></STRONG> of these sorts of scam is a deal that is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. (Usual story will have excuses as to why price is so low, such as needing to sell by particular date or having to leave quickly (see "HURRY HURRY HURRY" below) or needing the money urgently.) Amazing condition vehicle - car, boat, caravan, motorbike, jetpack, whatever - lady driver, always garaged, etc., etc. - at a price that is well below what you'd expect to pay. TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.<BR /><BR /></LI><LI>The <STRONG><FONT color="#3366FF">second sign</FONT> </STRONG>of these sorts of scam is HURRY HURRY HURRY, buy quickly before the amazing opportunity is gone. (Usual story will be full of excuses such as about to be deployed, about to be sent o/s for work, etc.)<BR /><BR /></LI><LI>The <STRONG><FONT color="#3366FF">third sign</FONT> </STRONG>of these sorts of scam is INABILITY FOR YOU TO VIEW ITEM IN PERSON before any money leaves your bank account or purse or hands. (See "Giving buyer sense of security" below.) Buying a car online is really incredibly risky; I don't recommend it.<BR /><BR /></LI><LI>The <FONT color="#3366FF"><STRONG>fourth sign</STRONG> </FONT>of these sorts of scam is a story about how THE SELLER IS NOT ABLE TO BE CONTACTED READILY. (Usual excuses - in the military, on an oil rig, working in accessible area, etc.)<BR /><BR /></LI><LI>The <STRONG><FONT color="#3366FF">fifth sign</FONT> </STRONG>of these sorts of scam is a backstory that seems warm and tugs at the heartstrings, such as recent divorce, money needed for mother, kids to be looked after, etc. (When you're buying a car, you don't need a backstory from the seller. Your spidey senses should tingle at any attempt to engage you emotionally by the seller.)<BR /><BR /></LI><LI>The <FONT color="#3366FF"><STRONG>sixth sign</STRONG> </FONT>of these sorts of scam is with the seller attempting to create trust by GIVING BUYER SENSE OF SECURITY with the sale. Any mention of eBay Motor and eBay acting as escrow are dead giveaways, of course. There isn't any eBay Escrow service. eBay doesn't work like that. Getting you to pay by bank transfer is yet another big red flag. (I'll explain below.)<BR /><BR /></LI><LI>The <FONT color="#3366FF"><STRONG>seventh sign</STRONG> </FONT>of these sorts of scam is that the seller says that if you inspect the car upon delivery and don't like it, it will be delivered back to the seller at seller's expense. In what world does that happen???? La La La La Land, that's where.<BR /><BR /></LI><LI>The <STRONG><FONT color="#3366FF">eighth sign</FONT> </STRONG>of these sorts of scam is the additional requirement for you to send a copy of your personal ID to the seller. Your ID documents ought to be kept safe, and not sent off to any Tom, Dick or Harriet. When required to show ID, you should consider the source of that request.</LI></OL><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><H2>Who is perpetrating these scams?</H2><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It's not one person. It's not one woman. It's almost certainly not just one crime syndicate involved, although there was a major crime ring very active in this particular sort of scam between 2013 and 2018. Many of these scams originate from Eastern Europe, and the eBay Motors scam was primarily being run from Romania. There are almost certainly some Australians involved, but it's quite a complicated scam if we look at it in its entirety.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>To start with, <STRONG>scammers want to collect someone's ID</STRONG>, so that they can a) open up Australian bank accounts, and b) convince buyers (or sellers of quite high-value items) that they're dealing with a real person. The scammers use the ID provided by unwitting victims to lure other victims and gain more IDs. Identity theft is one often unconsidered aspect of the eBay Motors scam that could devastate someone's life.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Sometimes a duped "romance scam" victim will be involved in the bank account transfer (transferring received money from their account to an overseas account, for instance).</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>With the aid of those IDs, the scammers will get as much as they can from the buyer/victim. That includes the buyer's ID and the buyer's money.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>7News story of one particular example: <A href="https://7news.com.au/news/vic/aussies-attempt-to-buy-new-car-lands-her-at-centre-of-international-crime-syndicate-c-1065035" target="_blank">https://7news.com.au/news/vic/aussies-attempt-to-buy-new-car-lands-her-at-centre-of-international-crime-syndicate-c-1065035</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><H2>Where does the money end up?</H2><P>&nbsp;</P><P>When you make a payment to the nominated bank account, it will almost immediately be whisked out of that bank account... either being used to buy Bitcoin which can then be transferred over, or to a foreign bank. The point is that the money will be non-recoverable. It is very unlikely that you can stop or reverse the transfer (although I always advise people to call their bank instantly if they realise that they've been scammed, <STRONG>just in case</STRONG> the transfer can be stopped.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>This is criminally obtained money, being money-laundered, and subsequently being used to fund more crime and the lifestyles of the criminals involved.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><H2>So there's&nbsp; no "Debra" or "Samantha" [or equivalent]?</H2><P>&nbsp;</P><P>No. There is not. This isn't a single-person scam. The scammers involved are part of a criminal syndicate, either as members or as employees. They work from a script, which is why you'll see the same modus operandi and the same sorts of replies.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><H2>But what about the car/caravan/boat/vehicle?</H2><P>&nbsp;</P><P>There is no car (or other vehicle). The listing or details for it would have been stolen at least in part from some other genuine listing or post, and then edited to make it the most attractive lure possible. (Single old lady driver, low kilometres, unrealistically low price, etc.) The photos will have been taken from some genuine listing or post. The listing that caught your eye is something like a Frankenstein Monster listing - photos from here, details from there, attractive terms from the scammers' script...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>There's really no car. Nothing will be delivered. It's a scam.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><H2>eBay escrow???</H2><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The buyer is assured that eBay will hold the money in escrow, and that the buyer has only to inform eBay of a problem and the money will be released back to them. <STRONG>THAT IS FALSE. eBay does not offer an escrow service.</STRONG> eBay Motors AU is quite different to the US eBay Motors, so be careful to look at the Australian eBay Motors T&amp;Cs.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>On eBay Motors AU, listings clearly state "(Not eligible for eBay purchase protection programs)". That's a warning to the buyer not to rely on eBay protection for the payment made to the seller.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>You'll also see that almost invariably the eBay listing will say Cash on Pickup. It is explicitly stated on <A title="Buying vehicles, parts and accessories (eBay Help Page)" href="https://www.ebay.com.au/help/buying/getting-started-ebay/buying-vehicles-parts-accessories?id=4639" target="_blank" rel="noopener">eBay's Buying vehicles, parts and accessories Help Page</A> that ❝It's OK for the seller to ask you to pay for a vehicle in person, but we recommend using a safe, traceable payment method. Avoid using instant cash transfer services (such as Western Union) or transferring money to an overseas account.❞ Of course cash isn't a "safe, traceable payment method", but it's fine to pay by cash on pickup as long as you've done your due diligence... had the vehicle inspected (do NOT skimp on this!), checked that there's a clear title, checked the vehicle's history, checked that it's not stolen, test-driven it... You know the sort of thing.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If you're buying from a dealer rather than a private seller, you can pay by card. If you're buying from a private seller, make triply sure you've done your due diligence and also be certain to get a receipt. Have a third party (such as your mechanic) with you, perhaps.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><H2>But won't eBay protect me?</H2><P>&nbsp;</P><P>No. eBay is not involved in the scam in any way. Its name is used to create a false sense of security. It's the same as if a scammer reached out to you on Facebook and pretended to be your mother,&nbsp; and gave you a cockamammy story about being abducted and mugged in Somalia and needing an immediate urgent transfer of money. If you are fooled into transferring that money, and then find out that your mother is safely at her home and hasn't been off to Somalia and has certainly never received those thousands of dollars, you're not going to expect your mother to reimburse you... are you? Her name was taken in vain... and in the eBay Motors scam, eBay's name is taken in vain.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>So... no. eBay cannot possibly protect you from a scammer who is misrepresenting themselves (in part of the scam) as being this fictitious eBay Escrow.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><H2>But don't eBay have a responsibility to me with these scams?</H2><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The listing might be on Facebook Marketplace (very popular place for this type of scam). It might be on Gumtree. It might be on various other online car buying sites. eBay is invoked in the listing or post in order to soothe the buyer's qualms... but eBay is not involved and bears neither explicit nor implicit responsibility for any losses you may incur as a result of the scam. Check the T&amp;Cs by going directly to eBay.com.au in a new browser, then going to Help to search.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><H2>e-Sense for vehicle-purchasing</H2><P>&nbsp;</P><P>This is all information that the would-be buyer should already know, but I acknowledge that people can make bad decisions under pressure. Please keep in mind these simple steps before you buy a vehicle online:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><UL><LI>Do not expect an unrealistic bargain. Look at the market value, look at the price set by other sellers for similar vehicles in similar condition, and be wary if the offered price is considerably cheaper than that.<BR /><BR /><EM>eBay's Help Page says ❝Use extra caution if an item is listed significantly below the suggested retail price.❞ - But - and here's the catch - that "caution" doesn't mean allowing the seller to control the caution narrative. "Caution" means that you follow THESE POINTS. Remember that scammers can and do provide convincing-looking fake receipts, documents, ID, websites, phone calls, chat facilities... the lot. Post on these boards and ask for advice if there's even a faintly pink flag in your mind. It doesn't matter if you post here and get brusque replies and feel as though some posters are not giving you sympathetic help. It DOES matter if you allow yourself to be pushed and rushed by the seller into being scammed out of your hard-earned money and putting your identity at risk.</EM></LI><LI>Do your due diligence.</LI><LI>Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever EVER ever EVER EVER provide a photo or scan or screenshot or videochat closeup of your driver licence or passport or other ID to a seller. You may have to provide such documentation to financial institutions or government bodies or representatives - but if you provide them to an online "seller", you&nbsp; compromise your identity. If a seller provides YOU with a copy of THEIR ID documents, be suspicious rather than relieved.</LI><LI>Be suspicious of offers of free delivery and free return shipping if not satisfied. Vehicle delivery is not going to be provided free by the seller. The Australian defence force doesn't offer free delivery of vehicles for serving members.</LI><LI>Insist on viewing the vehicle in person before even contemplating a purchase (and that includes the whole "escrow" nonsense).</LI><LI>Speak personally to the owner, by phone and in person.</LI><LI>Don't be rushed. There's no urgency. It's just a vehicle, not a life-saving liver transplant. Do not fall victim to FOMO.</LI><LI>Don't enter into lots of email or SMS chit-chat. The more you say, the more you give away without realising it. The more you allow the scammer to communicate, the more chance you give the scammer to lower your guard. If there are red flags, PAUSE... and... just... let yourself think... before you do anything else. Cut off all communication immediately if you suspect a scam.</LI></UL><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>There are many other threads about these types of scams. I'm just throwing as much information into this response as I can, in support of every other post in this thread which says exactly what I am saying.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Mon, 20 Dec 2021 07:04:25 GMT countessalmirena 2021-12-20T07:04:25Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269951#M1317 <P>I found a listing for a Maxda CX-5 at the following address: REMOVED</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>It is listed at $5000 and only travelled around 78000kms.&nbsp; I sent a message to email REMOVED and got a response from a Samantha Kelly claiming to be in the Australian Air Force selling the car she was awarded in a divorce settlement.&nbsp; She said she is being deployed and selling car to give money to her mother who is going to be looking after her kids.</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>She says she has a deal with ebay where they'll ship the car to me for 5 day trial and she won't get the money until I'm satisfied with the car at the end of the 5 days at which point ebay will release to her the money I have paid.</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>Is this a scam?&nbsp; Any help would be greatly appreciated.</P> Sat, 26 Oct 2019 07:33:16 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269951#M1317 betsylips 2019-10-26T07:33:16Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269953#M1318 <P>What do you think ?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>SCAM............SCAM.............SCAM</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>You will just need to send a couple of hundred for shipping to try the car out.</P><P>Of course there is no car. The photo's are usually taken from another listing in the past.</P> Sat, 26 Oct 2019 04:41:25 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269953#M1318 kopenhagen5 2019-10-26T04:41:25Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269955#M1319 <P>To add, if it seems too good to be true......................then it is.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The only way to buy a vehicle online is to have it checked first then hand over cash upon pick up.</P><P>Even then, one needs to be very careful that everything is genuine.</P> Sat, 26 Oct 2019 04:49:38 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269955#M1319 kopenhagen5 2019-10-26T04:49:38Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269957#M1320 <P>As kopes said - scam.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>eBay/Paypal do not use escrow services in Australia. If you pay the money the scammer will get it. It might be put on hold, but that is not where they make the money. It's the shipping that they will require you to pay directly.</P> Sat, 26 Oct 2019 04:55:12 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269957#M1320 davewil1964 2019-10-26T04:55:12Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269981#M1321 <P>The first time I heard of the "selling the car cheap after a marital break-up" scam was when my old man told me and mum in c.1960; he heard it from a bloke down the pub.</P><P>I suspect it was old even then.</P> Sat, 26 Oct 2019 08:04:00 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2269981#M1321 joztamps 2019-10-26T08:04:00Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2271877#M1322 <P>I've had exactly the same story from a Gyna Thomson regarding a Mazda 3. She says she's in the Australian Air Force, divorce settlement, mother looking after her kids, eBay and 5 day trial etc... so I think it's fair to say it's a scam and stay away.&nbsp;</P><P>I will be reporting this to Scamwatch.</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Wed, 06 Nov 2019 02:52:31 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2271877#M1322 sawo_8742 2019-11-06T02:52:31Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2272064#M1323 <P>just been offered the same car, if it's to good to be tryue 99% of the time it is a scam!</P> Thu, 07 Nov 2019 02:59:35 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2272064#M1323 hollywood7video 2019-11-07T02:59:35Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2342309#M1362 Been offered the same scam from Angela Mary Quig for Toyota RAV4 80,000 km<BR />Said exact same spiel, awarded car from recent divorce. in defence force about to be deployed. Needs the $ for her mum to look after kids. <span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":pouting_face:">😡</span> Tue, 04 Aug 2020 08:52:08 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2342309#M1362 m4d-26 2020-08-04T08:52:08Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2346512#M1363 <P>I have had 2 of these this week. There must be a lot of divorced RAAF staff being deployed this week that have been awarded custody of their kids that will be staying with the sellers mother lol...... These were both listed in FB Marketplace.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>1st one:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Hello,sorry about the late reply busy with work!</P><DIV><DIV class="gmail_quote"><DIV><DIV><DIV class="gmail_quote"><DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Well let me just jump right into it. I just got divorced and the Hyundai was awarded to me in our divorce. I have a low price ($5,000) because I want to sell it before August 20th ideally.</DIV>I have a deployment coming up and would prefer to have my mother who is taking care of my children, have the cash instead.&nbsp;<DIV><BR />Now, a few words about this 2014 Hyundai i30 active. It will come with Roadworthy Certificate and Rego so you don't have to do the running around Registration in NSW, paid until 15/4/21.Â&nbsp; In perfect working condition, with nothing mechanically wrong - like new! This Hyundai has 58, 320 kilometers on the clock.</DIV><DIV>Never involved in any accident. No scratch to the paint, no sign of rust. Transmission type: Automatic.Â&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><DIV>Owned by non-smoking family with no pets in vehicle, interior always clean and tidy.Â&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If you decide to buy it, you'll receive all the papers, owner manual, keys, a buy-sell contract already signed by me and the clear title.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Let me know if you have any questions.</DIV><DIV><BR />Royal Australian Air Force Dan Mitchell</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>2nd one:</DIV><DIV><SPAN>Hello,</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>Well let me just jump right into it. I just got divorced and the Toyota was awarded to me in our divorce. I have a low price ($4,920) because I want to sell it before August 23th ideally.</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>I have a deployment coming up and would prefer to have my mother who is taking care of my children, have the cash instead.</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>Now, a few words about this 2015 Toyota Corolla Levin Sx Cvt, comes with registration and a full RWC in perfect working condition, with nothing mechanically wrong - like new! This Toyota has 80,000 kilometers on the clock.&nbsp;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>Never involved in any accident. No scratch to the paint, no sign of rust. Transmission type: Automatic.</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>Owned by a non-smoking family with no pets, has just been fully detailed interior and exterior including steam clean.</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>If you decide to buy it, you'll receive all the papers, owner manual, keys, a buy-sell contract already signed by me and the clear title. Rego till 22 November 2020</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>Let me know if you have any questions.</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>Royal Australian Air Force Hanna Brook</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>always serviced , log books,tinted windows, leather seats,full power option, alloy wheels, navigation , reverse camera, condition as new</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> Wed, 19 Aug 2020 01:48:14 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2346512#M1363 ashleygreg 2020-08-19T01:48:14Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2347549#M1364 <P>hey i got literally the same email. so is this a scam? damn i nearly bought into the bull**bleep**.</P> Sun, 23 Aug 2020 01:00:55 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2347549#M1364 ni-220049 2020-08-23T01:00:55Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2347596#M1365 <P>Yes, it is a scam.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>And always will be.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If you want a car, inspect it before purchase, get a roadworthy, make sure it's unencumbered.</P> Sun, 23 Aug 2020 03:38:29 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2347596#M1365 davewil1964 2020-08-23T03:38:29Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2347627#M1366 <P>Yes, definitely a scam.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1768473">@ni-220049</a>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>hey i got literally the same email. so is this a scam? damn i nearly bought into the bull**bleep**.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P> Sun, 23 Aug 2020 04:56:47 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2347627#M1366 ashleygreg 2020-08-23T04:56:47Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2348633#M1368 Hi again as I've told you in my first e-mail, I'm in the Air Force with my medical team and right now I am on a military base. We are training, getting ready for leaving the country.<BR />Before leaving I had prearranged the deal with eBay I chose to hire them to take care of the whole selling process as I cannot leave the military base. The delivery process will be managed by me.<BR />I think I can have it there at your home address within 1-2 working days. You will have 5 days to test and inspect the Hyundai, prior to making any purchase. During that 5 days testing period I will not be getting any money.<BR />Only when you give the confirmation to eBay that you are satisfied by the Hyundai and wanna keep it, they will release the funds to me, otherwise, they will refund you the full amount of money without any question, and you can ship the Hyundai back on my expense.I need to know if you are interested so I can ask eBay to send you the details on this deal. If interested please include in your next email your contact info for eBay (full name, shipping address and phone number), so I can notify eBay that you are selected as my possible buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure.<BR /><BR />Warmest regards,<BR />Hanna Thu, 27 Aug 2020 14:56:25 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2348633#M1368 jbcjjkuz 2020-08-27T14:56:25Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2348843#M1369 Ooop I thought something smelled fishy. Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:49:40 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2348843#M1369 rid7455 2020-08-28T10:49:40Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2349440#M1370 I got the same message from this lady Hanna Brook yesterday about hyundai I30 2016 selling urgently.What should i do report to the police Mon, 31 Aug 2020 19:40:37 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2349440#M1370 louismensa_3 2020-08-31T19:40:37Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2349604#M1372 Scam scam scam Tue, 01 Sep 2020 09:35:09 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2349604#M1372 dragana0608 2020-09-01T09:35:09Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2350837#M1373 just don't fall for low prices. I got done. Sun, 06 Sep 2020 05:36:44 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2350837#M1373 au.lohs 2020-09-06T05:36:44Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2350851#M1374 <P>I received the same story / message Buddy. It's a Scam&nbsp;</P> Sun, 06 Sep 2020 08:03:22 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2350851#M1374 azzi-mich 2020-09-06T08:03:22Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2351715#M1375 SCAM still going how has this emailer not been caught?<BR /><BR />Email 1<BR /><BR />Hello,<BR /><BR />Well let me just jump right into it. I just got divorced and the Prado was awarded to me in our divorce. I have a low price ($6,900) because I want to sell it before August 21st ideally.<BR />I have a deployment coming up and would prefer to have my mother who is taking care of my children, have the cash instead.<BR /><BR />Now, a few words about this 2011 Toyota Prado GX 150series 4WD 3ltr Turbo Diesel. It will come with Roadworthy Certificate and Rego so you don't have to do the running around Registration in Queensland, paid until 09/07/2021. In perfect working condition,with nothing mechanically wrong - like new! This Prado has 86,300 kilometers on the clock.<BR />Never involved in any accident. No scratch to the paint, no sign of rust. Transmission type: Automatic.<BR />Owned by non-smoking family with no pets, interior always clean and tidy.<BR />If you decide to buy it, you'll receive all the papers, owner manual, keys, a buy-sell contract already signed by me and the clear title.<BR /><BR />Let me know if you have any questions.<BR /><BR />Royal Australian Air Force Hanna McFadden<BR /><BR /><BR />Email 2<BR /><BR />Hello again Stuart, as I've told you in my first e-mail, I'm in the Air Force with my medical team and right now I am on a military base. We are training, getting ready for leaving the country.<BR /><BR />Before leaving I had prearranged the deal with eBay I chose to hire them to take care of the whole selling process as I cannot leave the military base. The delivery process will be managed by me.<BR />I think I can have it there at your home address within 1-2 working days.You will have 5 days to test and inspect the Prado, prior to making any purchase. During that 5 days testing period I will not be getting any money.<BR />Only when you give the confirmation to eBay that you are satisfied by the Prado and wanna keep it, they will release the funds to me, otherwise, they will refund you the full amount of money without any question, and you can ship the Prado back on my expense.I need to know if you are interested so I can ask eBay to send you the details on this deal. If interested please include in your next email your contact info for eBay (full name, shipping address and phone number), so I can notify eBay that you are selected as my possible buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure.<BR /><BR />Warmest regards,<BR /><BR />Hanna McFadden<BR /> Wed, 09 Sep 2020 13:24:58 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2351715#M1375 fishstu23 2020-09-09T13:24:58Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2351716#M1376 Wed, 09 Sep 2020 13:25:47 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Motors/Is-this-a-scam/m-p/2351716#M1376 fishstu23 2020-09-09T13:25:47Z