topic Re: What a shame in Community Spirit

What a shame

crystal**flake — Tue, 14 May 2013 09:26:14 GMT

They're cutting the baby bonus, something that should not have been around in the first place.

Ummmm is this a political thread 😄

Re: What a shame

donnashuggy — Tue, 14 May 2013 09:34:11 GMT

Good move, they had a family on a current affair tonight complaining, they look like they eat enough each day to feed a boat full of refugees.

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j*oono — Tue, 14 May 2013 09:44:12 GMT

I think this will be a popular choice in where to make a cut. I agree with it but I'm glad those that really need some help will still get some.

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buzzlightyearsgirlfriend — Tue, 14 May 2013 09:49:21 GMT

Bugger. I was planning on popping out a couple more. B-)

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catsnknots — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:06:27 GMT

Well the idea of the Baby Bonus was to encourage population growth because of the aging population... so it was not that it was to pay you to have a child but to make it a bit more affordable to buy things that you needed, to encourage you to make a choice that you might have put off for financial reasons...

BUT.. it just made young kids think that having a baby would be cheap and easy on the dole...

Won't be a real problem....

Re: What a shame

buzzlightyearsgirlfriend — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:25:00 GMT

Won't be a real problem....

The sales of big screen TVs and iPhones and acrylic nails and spray tans will most certainly be affected. Oh and piercings. Mustn't forget the piercings 😉 Oh and tattoos. Oops, I almost forgot hair extensions.

Re: What a shame

catsnknots — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:34:53 GMT

oh.. so I hear that Family Tax Benefit A will go up and you will get $1000 via that method when you have a kid...

no real change then is it?

Re: What a shame

just_me_karen — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:35:23 GMT

One of the poor outcomes of the baby bonus was a huge increase in the price of baby essentials like cots and prams. I hope, for struggling families, the prices come back down... they probably will after a while because demand will decrease. More babies will have to sleep in boxes.

Somehow the govt will have to find a way to balance the ageing population and future skills shortage. Migration will have to increase?

Re: What a shame

donnashuggy — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:37:38 GMT

Mums to be can go to gumtree instead Karen. lol

Re: What a shame

catsnknots — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:39:42 GMT

More babies will have to sleep in boxes.

?:|

What babies sleep in boxes?

Re: What a shame

crystal**flake — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:47:13 GMT

I find, when I look at baby furnishings ect, its alot cheaper than when I purchased them.

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buzzlightyearsgirlfriend — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:47:17 GMT

I never understood cots for babies. I thought I did. I bought one. Biggest waste of money ever. It was great for hiding the washing pile. And the cradle, chopped it up eventually and sent it to the tip.

Safe co-sleeping for the WIN and the saving money and angst option. In my opinion and experience.

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i-need-a-martini — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:49:03 GMT

oh.. so I hear that Family Tax Benefit A will go up and you will get $1000 via that method when you have a kid...

no real change then is it?

Except won't that mean it will be means tested?

Re: What a shame

azureline** — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:51:16 GMT

I find, when I look at baby furnishings ect, its alot cheaper than when I purchased them.

yes.... I recall so.

Re: What a shame

cherry*135 — Tue, 14 May 2013 10:59:26 GMT

If you're thinking of having a baby…

… it's time to get busy. If you don't get pregnant in the next two weeks you won't get the Baby Bonus. It's being scrapped from March 1, 2014, or in nine months and two weeks, and will be replaced with an increase to the rate of Family Tax Benefit Part A. For families not claiming Paid Parental Leave, FTB-A will be increased by $2000 following the birth or adoption of a first child and by $1000 following the birth or adoption of a second or subsequent child.

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lynnie3024 — Tue, 14 May 2013 22:12:25 GMT

I would love to see the statistics for elective caesarians in the last two weeks of February next year...lol

There are going to be a lot of people very "busy" the next two weeks.

Re: What a shame

crystal-gems — Wed, 15 May 2013 04:14:36 GMT

oh.. so I hear that Family Tax Benefit A will go up and you will get $1000 via that method when you have a kid... no real change then is it?

Cat..... it is a tax benefit. The claimant is not handed $1000 in cash (without any means test)..

Re: What a shame

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 15 May 2013 05:32:19 GMT

How much is the baby bonus atm?

Is it paid in a lump sum or by installments?

Could prolly google, but meh - someone will know the answer for sure.

Glad it's being abolished, I never agreed with it.

If people think/thought that $5,000 (or whatever the amount was/is) is going to help much in having and raising a child, then their pro/con list needed some serious tweaking.

Although I do see a place for it for the "surprise" baby (if it's the first one - after one, pretty sure peeps have figured out what causes it) also for the teen pregnancy, though i realize that this is open for abuse and misinformed decisions. Maybe some sort of program that keeps the teens and single parents in skill development and education could be funded, or perhaps other support (if none is available atm.

Hope the paid parental leave (especially for both partners) will one day head the same way.

It's my opinion, that the money could have been directed more to helping a single parent rather than forcing them back into the workforce whilst the child is so young.

*puts hard hat on*

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*elizabeths-mum* — Thu, 16 May 2013 00:13:33 GMT

Being a parent of teenagers when it came in, it never made sense that you would get such a big bonus for babies who are cheap to run compared with the amount you get for teenagers who cost a lot more. (and I appreciated every cent anyway you lovely childless taxpayers. :-))

Re: What a shame

daydream**believer — Thu, 16 May 2013 02:48:15 GMT

crikey- the baby bonus was $5000 paid in 13 fortnightly instalments.