topic Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS in Community Spirit

OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

lotdealz — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:03:27 GMT

Dear Friends,

The court has found 2 companies guilty of IGNORING an official DO NOT KNOCK sticker and $1,000,000 fines issued.

If YOU are tired of DOOR-TO-DOOR sales people and you want to make them PAY then get a free sticker.

LINK FOR STICKER

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD - FINALLY WE CAN STOP THESE NUISANCES!

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

twinkles**stars — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:14:14 GMT

I have one....seems to be working. Now if it stops the trick or treaters it will be even better lol

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

lurker17260 — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:36:56 GMT

$1mil? Really? When and where?

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

not_an_eloi — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:55:16 GMT

Court imposes $1m penalty for doorknockers who harass householders

Karen Collier

News Limited Network September 28, 2012

" Consumers had complained about doorknockers working across Melbourne and regional Victoria refusing to respect Do Not Knock stickers and refusing to leave homes when asked.

THE nation's consumer watchdog has claimed its first scalp against dodgy doorknockers working for a power company, securing a $1 million penalty.
Serial pests ignoring Do Not Knock signs and harassing householders were found to have breached laws against unsolicited marketing.
The Federal Court has imposed a combined $1 million penalty by consent against energy retailer Neighbourhood Energy and marketing company Australian Green Credits.

the real story is in the last paragraph, though

The court also declared that Neighbourhood Energy and Australian Green Credits engaged in misleading and deceptive conduct.
Salespeople representing Neighbourhood Energy made misleading and deceptive statements to consumers, including that the salesperson was not there to sell anything, and that the consumer had been ‘zoned incorrectly’ and was being wrongly billed by their supplier.

http://www.news.com.au/national/courth-imposes-1m-penalty-for-doorkonckers-who-harass-householders/story-fncynjr2-1226483254646

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

lurker17260 — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:23:09 GMT

Thanks eloi

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

bunny0410 — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:53:13 GMT

Shame it doesn't extend to Religious callers.

I really dont want to be rude, but they are a constant Saturday headache.

I feel so bad, they bring their kiddies, all dressed in shabby church clothes.

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

monman12 — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:58:28 GMT

A quick spot of research indicates that this 4 month old story might just be exaggerating, perhaps for a receptive audience, in that from what I have found, the penalty imposed was mainly because (as NAE has indicated above) :-

"The court found the companies had engaged in multiple breaches of the Australian Consumer Law while touting for business in Cranbourne, Geelong and Wangaratta, and that "Salespeople representing Neighbourhood Energy made misleading and deceptive statements to consumers, including that the salesperson was not there to sell anything, and that the consumer had been ‘zoned incorrectly’ and was being wrongly billed by their supplier."

Listed here, are the official ACCC rules for door-knocking salespeople
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/doortodoor/

If one goes to the ACCC site you will find that their official door sticker download reads: " "DO NOT KNOCK Unsolicited door to door selling is not welcome here"

Which raises an interesting point, because part of the reported findings, included "...... that the Neighbourhood Energy salesperson was not there to sell anything......". So it thus follows that any DO NOT KNOCK sign would be irrelevant where no direct sale is intended.

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

patchoo78 — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:41:07 GMT

I saw one on my friends door, and thought it was just because her dog barks when people knock haha.. I thought she was asking everyone not to knock

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

mum*of*goldens — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:43:15 GMT

I have one too, but it doesn't stop the religious nuts or charity callers.

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

patchoo78 — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:44:38 GMT

That the Neighbourhood Energy salesperson was not there to sell anything......". So it thus follows that any DO NOT KNOCK sign would be irrelevant where no direct sale is intended.

It should count for energy sales people.. While they're not trying to sell you something physical, they are trying to convince you to changing energy providers.. They can get quite pushy even after you tell them that you are happy with your provider..

Still counts as door to door selling IMO Otherwise why would they be called a salesperson?

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

terracottacar — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:18:04 GMT

I have one on my door. Origin Energy gave it to us.

Re: OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT - DO NOT KNOCK STICKER - FINES IMPOSED TO OFFENDERS

bella_again — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:43:02 GMT

It should count for everyone that is there to promote a product. You may need a more direct sign for the religious knockers. ie Religious knockers not welcome or no religious hawkers/Nop religious callers which ever works.

If you laminate it and stick it in a place where its clearly seen you are then within your rights to complain if they ignore the sign.