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Murdoch distributes his propaganda for FREE

i-need-a-martini — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 23:38:49 GMT

Today the hideously biased one-track subject matter Daily Telegraph was boasting it had the highest readership of any newspaper in the country with levels rising.

Now I know why.

For months it has been the only reading available at my morning cafe and the content has stunned me - it is simply filled to the brim with BS. It's nothing more than an avenue for Murdochs propaganda and his anti-Labor agenda.

So I asked the cafe owner why she only has NewsLimited papers. She tells me she would never buy them - they just 'arrive' on her doorstep every morning. 3 x The Australian and 3 x The Daily Telegraph. And they deliver to EVERY cafe in the area.

I work in Surry Hills in Sydney and for those of you who don't know Surry Hills, it is a cafe laden suburb with more cafes per square metre than any other city in Australia. The 3 blocks I walk from Central station to work I pass 16 cafes. Each given free Murdoch propaganda in the guise of a newspaper.

What chance for democracy when the country is being brainwashed to this degree?

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purplecarrot-top — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 23:56:15 GMT

I bet they deliver to a lot of cafes in other areas as well.

I am sure someone will be in soon to dispute you.

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nero_bolt — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 00:06:23 GMT

Well gee miss martini thats smart marketing...... Now you know why they (Murdoch press) are doing so well and your preferred hate papers from the left of the left Fairfax media group is all but broke and only the dedicated minority of left leaning are still reading them.

But I guess if they had a smidgin of marketing at Fairfax and did the same thing to these cafes you would think thats a great idea and be all for it wouldn’t you.... 🙂

So do you post from work do you? it would appear so from your posts.... Is that OK with your employer to do that?

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donnashuggy — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 00:14:33 GMT

The telegraph is the most distrusted news source so it doesn't mean much that people read it I guess.

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lakeland27 — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 00:17:25 GMT

they also allow free online 'trials' to continue (newsltd) long after the time is up ..years in some cases.getting the rubbish out there is more important to rupe et al than sales.

Newspaper circulation figures are out for the quarter and it’s bad, bad news across the board. No paper is immune from the dramatic decline in sales. But there are a few magazines holding their own …

The latest newspaper circulation results offer a grim reality check for both Fairfax and News Corporation Australia. Fairfax’s metropolitan papers continue to bleed sales, despite the shift to commuter-friendly compact formats. News’ biggest-selling papers recorded unprecedented double-digit circulation drops year-on-year. And monopoly status is offering no protection for regional papers, which are rivalling their big-city brethren for circulation declines.

How strange it is to remember Australian papers were holding relatively steady only three years ago, bucking the downward trend in the US. Now we’ve reached the point of contagion: total newspaper circulation slumped by 11.2% year-on-year in the June quarter, with no papers picking up paid sales.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/08/16/newspaper-circulation-results-shocker-the-contagion-edition/

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newstart2380 — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 01:40:21 GMT

@nero_wulf wrote:
Well gee miss martini thats smart marketing...... Now you know why they (Murdoch press) are doing so well and your preferred hate papers from the left of the left Fairfax media group is all but broke and only the dedicated minority of left leaning are still reading them.

But I guess if they had a smidgin of marketing at Fairfax and did the same thing to these cafes you would think thats a great idea and be all for it wouldn’t you.... 🙂

So do you post from work do you? it would appear so from your posts.... Is that OK with your employer to do that?

Ditto Nero, I am sure if the boot was on the other foot (so to speak) Labor would be lapping it up, jealousy is a dreadful emotion and a waste of one's energy, they will just have to put up with the fact we have free speech in this country and a high profile business man has the avenue to publish his point of view.

I am glad this person is not employed by me, would be on the 3 strikes and your out list for using working time to post private mesaages.

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windrake — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 01:58:35 GMT

The reason why the News Corp papers are so successful is that PEOPLE WANT TO READ THEM.

The reason Fairfax failed is that NOBODY WANTED TO READ IT.

The reason The Age is no longer relevant is NOBODY WANTS TO READ IT.

This is called freedom of the press in a democracy, got it

Now I know this is unpalatable to the left on here but we live in a democratic country with freedom of the press so get over it. The shoe was on the other foot like in 2007, I never heard a peep about it then, not a word, not an avalanche of outrage.

What's good for one is also good for the other.

Thank goodness we do have a free press to shine a light on the total incompetence of this Govt.

The reason Roxon & the hapless Conroy failed so badly & Roxon left politics is that NOBODY wanted their restrictive policies & were withdrawn to save face, withdrawn before they could fail to pass on the floor.

Boy, we don't all suffer from amnesia even though Labor wishes we do..

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monman12 — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 02:05:48 GMT

INAM: ".........What chance for democracy when the country is being brainwashed to this degree?......."

"is being" ? judging by the CS Board, many are completely brain washed scrubbed and dried already, with nothing left to do but rail (rant) at anything that is contrary to their views.

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izabsmiling — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 02:32:47 GMT

@windrake wrote:
The reason why the News Corp papers are so successful is that PEOPLE WANT TO READ THEM.

The reason Fairfax failed is that NOBODY WANTED TO READ IT.

The reason The Age is no longer relevant is NOBODY WANTS TO READ IT.

This is called freedom of the press in a democracy, got it

Now I know this is unpalatable to the left on here but we live in a democratic country with freedom of the press so get over it. The shoe was on the other foot like in 2007, I never heard a peep about it then, not a word, not an avalanche of outrage.

What's good for one is also good for the other.

Thank goodness we do have a free press to shine a light on the total incompetence of this Govt.

The reason Roxon & the hapless Conroy failed so badly & Roxon left politics is that NOBODY wanted their restrictive policies & were withdrawn to save face, withdrawn before they could fail to pass on the floor.

Boy, we don't all suffer from amnesia even though Labor wishes we do..

and you are free to keep speaking on behalf of everybody

though it does look kind of silly

in this here Democratic Country of ours

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bright.ton42 — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 02:50:14 GMT

The good thing about our society is that we have choice. So if we don't like a free newspaper

at the coffee shop we can always fork out a dollar or so for one that we do like.

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freakiness — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 03:03:16 GMT

@bright.ton42 wrote:
The good thing about our society is that we have choice. So if we don't like a free newspaper
at the coffee shop we can always fork out a dollar or so for one that we do like.

The Murdoch press is giving away in shoppping centres too lately, I've heard.

It's to inflate circulation numbers to keep advertisers happy.

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ladydeburg — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 03:09:18 GMT

I get it online and also read it for light reading in cafe's This is the newspaper who ushered Rudd in in 2007 so for that reason alone I'm cancelling my subscription.

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izabsmiling — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 03:10:16 GMT

advertisers would be paying and/or promising something in return.

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freakiness — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 03:26:28 GMT

@izabsmiling wrote:
advertisers would be paying and/or promising something in return.

Not necessarily.

The lower the circulation numbers the less their advertising space is worth.

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monman12 — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 03:44:31 GMT

MY: "John, I think your own myopia is becoming more and more obvious. You try to present yourself on here as the bastion of reason and fairness but it is pretty plain to see you only "go after" supporters of the left.
When are we going to see you take to task nero........"

MY, history/research are apparently your bete noire. so allow me to correct you, in that I have never tried to present myself on here as the bastion of reason and fairness, more the bastion of scientific/engineering correctness, plus of course shooting down demonstrably incorrect definitive statements.
Ask LL apropos my possible true leanings.

As for myself not tasking Nero, try researching MY, it is easy e.g some of my past posts herein. :

"NW I regard myself as informed (and educated to a degree in the physical sciences) but I at least took the trouble to confirm what I knew apropos EU carbon pricing by reading a paper from the EU Directorate-General for the Environment. " "

"NW: "Just why did we spend the past year paying the world's biggest carbon tax, which drove our power bills through the roof?"
"NW, I will answer that one, we did not. As for the rest of your C & P, I see you also are averse to analytical research,

"NW, I suggest you quote some home grown reputable scientific bodies when you are grasping for credible technical information "

"NW, whilst you are blindly castigating all things Labour, take the time to research coalition State budget forecasts. "

NW: ".......However, it appears voters have marked down Mr Rudd on his controversial plans to send asylum seekers to PNG....."
Actually NW:-"...... slight majority of Australian electors say the ALP (50.5%, up 4.5% in a week) would ‘do a better job’ than the L-NP (49.5%, down 4.5%)."

"Forget the myopic bleatings here of NW and LL, (at least LL does post some original thoughts/research, sometimes)"

" I would guess that there is room for two under NW's rock! "

MY, I think you have a case of selective posting amnesia coupled with political myopia, you will fit in very well!

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bright.ton42 — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:07:47 GMT

@freakiness wrote:
@bright.ton42 wrote:
The good thing about our society is that we have choice. So if we don't like a free newspaper
at the coffee shop we can always fork out a dollar or so for one that we do like.
The Murdoch press is giving away in shoppping centres too lately, I've heard.
It's to inflate circulation numbers to keep advertisers happy.

Would free copies count in their circulation figures? If they do then no wonder

they're giving them away.

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silverfaun — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:23:00 GMT

mm, I think you are the bastion on blowing self important lab rusteds into the weeds with your measured & cutting to the chase ripostes.

I would not venture to rebuke you because you seem to be a fairly good bs meter on here.

The one thing I'm looking forward to is the night of the election when the post mortems start. The libs and Labs are not both blameless in creating such a toxic politic.

Maybe when Rudd ang Gillard fade into the mists of time then we can look at the toxic 24hr news cycle which is equally to blame.

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nero_bolt — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:55:45 GMT

So which one of the left leaning regulars is this new posting ID of moderatemolly..... They seem to know you by name MM and seem to have some issues with you

I do wonder why they think its OK to bring me into their problem/personal dispute with monman12

Interesting to see who gave this new posting nick KUDOS.... could it be another nick of either of the KUDOS givers? Possibly the one line specialist could own this nick or its a friend of theirs..... lol

Is this a personal dispute that the poster has with monman12? It would appear so... and a good chance of a personal dispute with me as well.

Will be interesting to see how often this nice shiny new posting nic will post on here in the future...

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moderatemolly wrote:

John, I think your own myopia is becoming more and more obvious. You try to present yourself on here as the bastion of reason and fairness but it is pretty plain to see you only "go after" supporters of the left.

When are we going to see you take to task nero, silverfaun etc for some of the absurd things they post?

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He does, OFTEN and thats fine.... and I have no personal dispute with that unlike moderatemolly seems to have one with both myself and monman12

🙂

monman12 wrote:

As for myself not tasking Nero, try researching MY, it is easy e.g some of my past posts herein. :

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monman12 — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 05:19:32 GMT

SF: "The one thing I'm looking forward to is the night of the election when the post mortems start. The libs and Labs are not both blameless in creating such a toxic politic."

I agree SF, but I happily will be ensconced in the M. A. lounge at "Tulla" evening of 7th Sept, eating too much, and probably having a little over the limit beverage. Then a week in Malacca doing the same.

nɥºɾ

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moderatemolly — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 05:27:51 GMT

So which one of the left leaning regulars is this new posting ID of moderatemolly.....

You really have no idea do you. Not all of us have multiple personalities.

They seem to know you by name MM

Not hard, he signs it on every post.

Interesting to see who gave this new posting nick KUDOS.... could it be another nick of either of the KUDOS givers? Possibly the one line specialist could own this nick or its a friend of theirs

I assume that gibberish is trying to say I'm Donna or Iza. WRONG. As I said not all of us use several ids to back ourselves up.