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Greens poison Labor

nero_bolt — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:47:58 GMT

Greens are poison to Australia and the economy....

Labor faces a wipe-out in Tasmania:

The latest polling by ReachTEL, published in Hobart’s The Mercury last Saturday, suggests Labor potentially faces a wipeout.
The automated phone poll of 2285 has the Liberals stealing Bass, Braddon and Lyons, while Franklin—held by Labor minister Julie Collins—is too close to call. It has Wilkie holding Denison, despite a strong Labor campaign to wrest it back.

Correct conclusions are being drawn:

Tasmanian federal Labor MPs told The Australian they in large part blamed the party’s relationship with the Greens at the state and federal levels for the potential slide back into oblivion.

**bleep** Adams, a stalwart of the party who the latest polling suggests will fail to defend a margin of 12.3 per cent in rural Lyons, said the party should review its power-sharing deal with the Greens in the state…

“The Liberals ... are using it in their ads - ‘Green means Labor’ - and that sort of caper,” Mr Adams said. “The Greens have created an image in Tasmania that they oppose everything. And that’s the general feeling that 80 per cent of Tasmanians would have about the Greens.

“The majority of Tasmanians think that the Greens are a negative force to jobs, growth and economic activity."…

The Labor MP for the marginal seat of Braddon, Sid Sidebottom, who faces a strong challenge from Liberal Brett Whiteley, agreed that Labor was being damaged by its association with the Greens. “There are people who view the Greens as anti-development,” he said.

ALP's island fortress under Coalition siege

FACING its first electoral wipeout in Tasmania in almost 30 years - the potential loss of five crucial seats - Labor is redoubling its focus on the island state and moving to further distance itself from the Greens.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/alps-island-fortress-under-coalition-siege/story-fn9qr68y-1226705337504

Re: Greens poison Labor

lakeland27 — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:50:26 GMT

Vote green in the senate. ignore murdochs lackeys ..

Re: Greens poison Labor

*crikey*mate* — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:01:21 GMT

Hi Lakeland. Genuine question. Why would a person vote for the Greens? What's your genuine unbiased non Murdoch view?

Re: Greens poison Labor

lakeland27 — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:07:52 GMT

@crikey*mate wrote:
Hi Lakeland. Genuine question. Why would a person vote for the Greens? What's your genuine unbiased non Murdoch view?

the greens are the only party with a genuine climate agenda. simple. climate change is an issue with 70 per cent of the electorate .

the abc survey confirms this.

vote green in the senate.

Re: Greens poison Labor

*crikey*mate* — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:13:42 GMT

@lakeland27 wrote:
@crikey*mate wrote:
Hi Lakeland. Genuine question. Why would a person vote for the Greens? What's your genuine unbiased non Murdoch view?

the greens are the only party with a genuine climate agenda. simple. climate change is an issue with 70 per cent of the electorate .
the abc survey confirms this.
vote green in the senate.

Ok, I know very little about that, could you expand for me, please?

Re: Greens poison Labor

***super_nova*** — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:25:49 GMT

I used to vote green for senate for that reason, but I was very disillusioned when they were not willing to compromise on the original emission trading scheme. If the emissions trading scheme got passed then, in whatever form, it would have saved us all lot of headaches. It could have been adjusted later on. That was the reason I did not vote green for senate at the last election and I am not sure I will this time.

Re: Greens poison Labor

lakeland27 — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:28:38 GMT

whats to know ? its a huge problem that some prefer to ignore or scoff at. i'm in no mood to engage them.

if you are interested there is plenty of material, just look.

Re: Greens poison Labor

lakeland27 — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:33:30 GMT

@***super_nova*** wrote:
I used to vote green for senate for that reason, but I was very disillusioned when they were not willing to compromise on the original emission trading scheme. If the emissions trading scheme got passed then, in whatever form, it would have saved us all lot of headaches. It could have been adjusted later on. That was the reason I did not vote green for senate at the last election and I am not sure I will this time.

i agree with this to an extent. yes the greens pushed a little too hard which diluted the outcome and delayed it to the point it is still an issue now when it ought not to be. however, i'm not prepared to abandon them as they are far more genuine than anyone else in the house .. with labors left they are the only real hope we have of a decent outcome (one day)

Re: Greens poison Labor

idlewhile — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:41:07 GMT

The Greens in Ireland have been rubbed out totally, no seats at all. This is what needs to be done in Australia. The deceitful smiling assassin Milne is going to find they will be decimated in Sept. they are desperate.

The day the Greens are rubbed out of the political scene will be a great day. They have ruined & bankrupted Tasmania, it has taken many years for Tasmanians to wake up, they have been the butt of jokes for decades. Get rid of Labor too then they might face a future that gives their children a job.

Re: Greens poison Labor

lakeland27 — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:53:46 GMT

@dulcetrose wrote:
The Greens in Ireland have been rubbed out totally, no seats at all. This is what needs to be done in Australia. The deceitful smiling assassin Milne is going to find they will be decimated in Sept. they are desperate.

The day the Greens are rubbed out of the political scene will be a great day. They have ruined & bankrupted Tasmania, it has taken many years for Tasmanians to wake up, they have been the butt of jokes for decades. Get rid of Labor too then they might face a future that gives their children a job.

so you are unaware of the failings of Gunns and the decline in demand for Gunns products ? the greens saved the state from being as bald as abbotts head for no gain to tasmanians.

Re: Greens poison Labor

silverfaun — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:59:19 GMT

I agree, the Greens need to go, they have infected the politic of this country & many others for too long.

Re: Greens poison Labor

lakeland27 — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:02:52 GMT

it was you giving the farewell speeches ?. the greens are easily the most honest committed conviction politicians here. murdochs character assassination can't alter that.

Vote Green in the senate.

Re: Greens poison Labor

donnashuggy — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:10:18 GMT

I voted for them last time and doubt I ever will again, they really stuffed things up.

They are not realistic as they don't understand compromise.

Re: Greens poison Labor

lakeland27 — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:21:31 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
I voted for them last time and doubt I ever will again, they really stuffed things up.

They are not realistic as they don't understand compromise.

its good to disagree.

the LNP have two parties, plus the support of preferences from another half-dozen minor parties at least. Labor and the greens need each other to combat the right gerrymander being pulled australia -wide via katter and palmer. the right kept expanding their voter base by starting new parties to preference them. the destruction by media of the greens is an attack on labor prefernces really, nothing more.

Re: Greens poison Labor

nero_bolt — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:22:16 GMT

Tasmania is really going well..

Tasmania's jobless rate hits 8.1%

Yep well done to the greens and the inept labor govt

Tasmania a bankrupt state living on handouts paid for by us in Mainland Australia.

LL you should move there, you would be in your element and love it there with the Greens and the unemployment and the Labor debt.

Re: Greens poison Labor

donnashuggy — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:23:22 GMT

If you vote Labor in the senate preferences will go to the greens won't they?

Re: Greens poison Labor

lakeland27 — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:25:46 GMT

exactly what i mean ... baseless rubbish. having concern for the place we live is a bad thing ? murdoch has muddied a few thought processes .. confusion defeats reason.

Re: Greens poison Labor

lakeland27 — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:28:39 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
If you vote Labor in the senate preferences will go to the greens won't they?

unsure. remember when preferences gained FF steve fielding a senate seat despite a tiny primary vote ? we could see something like that happen again.

Re: Greens poison Labor

donnashuggy — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:30:41 GMT

Di Smith is campaigning here, I might go and chat to her on Saturday. She was at my local coffee shop last weekend and not many people went up and spoke to her which was a bit sad.

Re: Greens poison Labor

donnashuggy — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:31:46 GMT

Victoria is different but nonetheless I will be very careful who gets my vote.