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Oh doesn't it just fill you with joy

darksideofthemoon — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:09:33 GMT

I have just heard Tony Abbot say on the news tonight that they will 'abolish the carbon tax' 😐

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lakeland27 — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:18:58 GMT

He's a visionary all right. full of new ideas and boundless energy etc.

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the_great_she_elephant — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:25:28 GMT

What he means is he's going to scrap the current one, impose one of his own, and call it something different.

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poddster — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:31:48 GMT

What he means is he's going to scrap the current one, impose one of his own, and call it something different.

Wow!!! An elephant word smith that can see the future.

Amazing just how much talent we have on CS 🙂

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dskracing — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:51:39 GMT

Wow!!! An elephant word smith that can see the future.

Amazing just how much talent we have on CS 🙂

Amazing hey poddy....SheEle can even spell Julia the right way

Way more talent than those who can"t;-)

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joz*garage — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:42:11 GMT

yeah, individual my...

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the_great_she_elephant — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:04:10 GMT

I think I might need to take a screen shot in case I need to say 'I told you so.'

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azureline** — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:14:34 GMT

:^O

I think I might need to take a screen shot in case I need to say 'I told you so.'

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freakiness — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:14:59 GMT

He's also getting a fibre optic connection to his office, as are all electorate offices because their current broadband services are not good enough.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/political-news/ultrafast-deal-for-all-federal-mps-20130219-2epm3.html

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freakiness — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:15:50 GMT

hey it dropped half my post

All federal politicians will have ultra-fast internet cables installed in their electorate office within weeks as part of a new $23 million telecommunications contract.

The upgrade comes after widespread complaints from politicians and their staff about broadband speeds in suburban offices.

This will give politicians access to the same download speeds as the national broadband network, but years before it is widely available to all Australians.

But the upgrade has nothing to do with NBN Co. It is part of a commercial contract awarded by the Department of Parliamentary Services to Telstra last year. A DPS spokeswoman said it was Telstra's idea to upgrade electorate offices from a mixture of copper, satellite and cable to fibre-optic cable

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monman12 — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:21:01 GMT

FN: "He's also getting a fibre optic connection to his office, as are all electorate offices because their current broadband services are not good enough."

"The upgrade has nothing to do with NBN Co. It is part of a commercial contract awarded by the Department of Parliamentary Services to Telstra last year."

A lot of irony there!. Telstra installing fibre connections and not the NBN, considering the NBN pressured the government to pass legislation preventing Telstra competing with them.

I suppose the impatient MPs could not wait until Halley's Comet next passed for the NBN to connect them all.

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debra9275 — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:30:08 GMT

What he means is he's going to scrap the current one, impose one of his own, and call it something different.

Lol probably She-ele

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freakiness — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:26:48 GMT

FN: "He's also getting a fibre optic connection to his office, as are all electorate offices because their current broadband services are not good enough."

"The upgrade has nothing to do with NBN Co. It is part of a commercial contract awarded by the Department of Parliamentary Services to Telstra last year."

A lot of irony there!. Telstra installing fibre connections and not the NBN, considering the NBN pressured the government to pass legislation preventing Telstra competing with them.

I suppose the impatient MPs could not wait until Halley's Comet next passed for the NBN to connect them all.

The legislation was not only designed to stop Telstra from competing with them.

What irony? Telstra do deals all over the country, including with NBN Co.

The deal with NBN Co was mainly to access their pits and ducts and to replace the cable. That's not about competition, it's to get unbiquity. Cable has inadequate upload capacity and becoming obsolete.

It's nothing like the irony of MPs sayiing we don't need it then getting their offices FiOed up. Or the irony of Turnbull saying FTTP is not the best then buying shares in OS FTTP projects.

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monman12 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:41:14 GMT

FN: "The legislation was not only designed to stop Telstra from competing with them.'
Agreed, it was also designed to shut down the similarily efficient (and fast) Optus HFC network

"What irony? Telstra do deals all over the country, including with NBN Co." The irony is that they can not directly compete FN, the MP's in order to receive FTTH quickly turned to Telstra, which the NBN have ensured for fibre network competition have been muzzled.

"The deal with NBN Co was mainly to access their pits and ducts and to replace the cable. That's not about competition, it's to get unbiquity. Cable has inadequate upload capacity and becoming obsolete."
Nonsense, HFC has up to 100Mbps capability, and why do you think Telstra's HFC will still deliver Foxtel over the "obselete" cable? The "deal" was to discontinue the communications portion (data/voice) of Telstra copper & HFC, and to also close down all of the perfectly good Optus HFC network, to prevent competition.

"Or the irony of Turnbull saying FTTP is not the best then buying shares in OS FTTP projects."
Ironic? buying shares in France Télécom, which is able to deploy fibre to the premises “for one twelfth of the cost of the NBN” and is a huge profitable privatised company with no government "protection".

The NBN start-up was shunned by private venture capital, why?
Turnbull is a businessman and buys shares that will be profitable, I would not touch NBN in a fit (if it was worth floating) but I have a lot of Telstra shares.
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not_an_eloi — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:31:21 GMT

yeh, a businessman (who bought into the business) , but NOT a techy with the skills to understand the intricacies of the NBN,

that why (like all liberals) he wants a user-pays system (fibre on demand) for australians

http://delimiter.com.au/2013/02/19/turnbull-wants-user-pays-ftth-model/

anybody who is mad enough to vote liberal 'as got rockz-for-brainz

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freakiness — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:57:51 GMT

No, John you've got it wrong.

Anyone can build all the fibre access network or private networks that they wish to build.

They are just not allowed to demand exclusive rights to whole estates, they have to comply with the NBN open access standard. Anybody that wishes can still purchase fibre from Telstra.

The HFC network is being shut down, not to stop compeition but to provide services to all. Where the HFC networks are there are huge gaps where people are not able to access services. Both Telstra and Optus want to be rid of their HFC networks.

Most of the HFC has 100Mb download with very limited upload.

Upload is imortant these days as well as download.

Partially to prevent competition, mainly to allow ubiquity.

There is no HFC to MDUs, are they just supposed to go without?

It is for a variety of reasons, not just competition. The future of telco competition is in the retail market.

The last price tag I saw was $15B for the France FTTP project and that was for 2 cities.

Almost every industry expert in the world that has spoken about our NBN has had extremely positive things to say about it. Not only talking it up but building and investing in Australia to take advantage.

You know it can't fail so why begrudge the entire country getting an adequate service?

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freakiness — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 06:06:23 GMT

yeh, a businessman (who bought into the business) , but NOT a techy with the skills to understand the intricacies of the NBN,

that why (like all liberals) he wants a user-pays system (fibre on demand) for australians

http://delimiter.com.au/2013/02/19/turnbull-wants-user-pays-ftth-model/

anybody who is mad enough to vote liberal 'as got rockz-for-brainz

The Coalition plan for FTTN does not include regional areas. Basically their plan is to use FTTP for new estates and let people buy their own if they want FTTP in metropolitan areas. The rest apparently can use the new satellites that NBN has ordered and the towers they have started work on.