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Abbott broke law

***super_nova*** — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 22:46:22 GMT

Tony Abbott has incurred the wrath of Indonesia's journalists by excluding them from a press conference, and even committed a criminal offence, according to the head of the country's journalists' union.

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purplecarrot-top — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:05:04 GMT

Nothing Abbott does surprises me.

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debra9275 — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:09:23 GMT

hmmm what next I wonder

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polksaladallie — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:11:20 GMT

He seems to be out of his depth, but he has dozens of advisors, where were they?

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cherry*135 — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:16:24 GMT

Hehe, dictator has been bandied around in threads about politicial leaders in the last few months... he has advisors but may be he is type of person who thinks he is right all the time. doesn't listen to advice?

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kengillard — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:19:20 GMT

I'm quite sure Tony Abbott had his reasons.....perhaps he didn't want Indonesian Journalists to twist his words??

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*elizabeths-mum* — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:21:50 GMT

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*elizabeths-mum* — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:23:29 GMT

The Australian journalists can do that quite competently!

Apparently 😄

Accidentally did an empty post when phone decided to post for me. No sinister intent.

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debra9275 — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:26:52 GMT

that happens sometimes Em, you just made me remember that thread about blank posts lol

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*elizabeths-mum* — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:27:57 GMT

Yes, that's why I thought I should clarify! 😄

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debra9275 — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:28:53 GMT

good girl!

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izabsmiling — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:30:44 GMT

@purplecarrot-top wrote:
Nothing Abbott does surprises me.

me either unfortunately

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izabsmiling — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 02:24:24 GMT

what a way for the leader of our Country to represent US and build on OUR relationship with Indonesia .

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Australian journalists were also told the press conference was only for them, and it meant Indonesian media were unable to put any questions to the visiting Prime Minister.

But Umar Idris, the head of the Jakarta chapter of the Alliance for Independent Journalists, said the actions of Mr Abbott - himself a former journalist - were not just discourteous, but criminal.

"The press law in Indonesia says it is a crime to limit journalists to get access to information. The penalty for that is two years' imprisonment," Mr Umar said.

"We cannot accept whatever reason Australia gave for limiting access to information for Indonesian journalists."

Mr Abbott's office did not respond to requests for an explanation.Other than this, however, coverage in the Indonesian language press for the two-day visit was comprehensive, in some cases front-page and generally either straight or approving with a hint of surprise.

The tone was captured by secular newspaper Media Indonesia, whose front page announced on Tuesday that Mr Abbott "did not offend the sensitive issues that had arisen earlier".

Kompas carried a front-page story on Tuesday entitled: "RI [Republic of Indonesia]-Australia Overcome Together".

Islam-based newspaper Republika carried an artist's impression of Mr Abbott and the title: "Fight the illegal migrant".

On inside pages the paper carried no fewer than four stories, including a 10-point introduction to Mr Abbott. The first point read: "Abbott limits immigrants and asylum seekers while in fact Abbott himself was an immigrant. He was born in London, England in 1957 and immigrated to Australia on 1960".

The English-language Jakarta Post's headline, "Abbot [sic] respects RI sovereignty" would be something the Australian Prime Minister would have been happy to see, as it conveyed he was not someone to be afraid of.

The coverage on Wednesday was more muted and disparate. Koran Tempo quoted Trade Minister Andrew Robb in its story about Mr Abbott's comments to a business breakfast on investing, particularly in the cattle industry.

Mr Abbott will be pleassed with the coverage, and hope his next visit is received so well. Assuming he escapes a prison sentence.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/9239917/Tony-Abbott-broke-law-on-media-shutout

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catsnknots — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 02:53:04 GMT

@izabsmiling wrote:
what a way for the leader of our Country to represent US and build on OUR relationship with Indonesia .
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Australian journalists were also told the press conference was only for them, and it meant Indonesian media were unable to put any questions to the visiting Prime Minister.

But Umar Idris, the head of the Jakarta chapter of the Alliance for Independent Journalists, said the actions of Mr Abbott - himself a former journalist - were not just discourteous, but criminal.

"The press law in Indonesia says it is a crime to limit journalists to get access to information. The penalty for that is two years' imprisonment," Mr Umar said.

"We cannot accept whatever reason Australia gave for limiting access to information for Indonesian journalists."

Mr Abbott's office did not respond to requests for an explanation.Other than this, however, coverage in the Indonesian language press for the two-day visit was comprehensive, in some cases front-page and generally either straight or approving with a hint of surprise.

The tone was captured by secular newspaper Media Indonesia, whose front page announced on Tuesday that Mr Abbott "did not offend the sensitive issues that had arisen earlier".

Kompas carried a front-page story on Tuesday entitled: "RI [Republic of Indonesia]-Australia Overcome Together".
Islam-based newspaper Republika carried an artist's impression of Mr Abbott and the title: "Fight the illegal migrant".
On inside pages the paper carried no fewer than four stories, including a 10-point introduction to Mr Abbott. The first point read: "Abbott limits immigrants and asylum seekers while in fact Abbott himself was an immigrant. He was born in London, England in 1957 and immigrated to Australia on 1960".

The English-language Jakarta Post's headline, "Abbot [sic] respects RI sovereignty" would be something the Australian Prime Minister would have been happy to see, as it conveyed he was not someone to be afraid of.

The coverage on Wednesday was more muted and disparate. Koran Tempo quoted Trade Minister Andrew Robb in its story about Mr Abbott's comments to a business breakfast on investing, particularly in the cattle industry.

Mr Abbott will be pleassed with the coverage, and hope his next visit is received so well. Assuming he escapes a prison sentence.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/9239917/Tony-Abbott-broke-law-on-media-shutout

just thought I would highlight a few points that you didn't...

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just_me_karen — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 03:03:39 GMT

I agree, Cat Mad, they should lock him up for two years 😄

Javanese prisons are sooooo much worse than Balinese 🙂

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izabsmiling — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 03:11:15 GMT

Catmad, do the rest nullify the one which they were shut out of ?

edit to add from the above:

"We cannot accept whatever reason Australia gave for limiting access to information for Indonesian journalists."

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izabsmiling — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 03:09:18 GMT

Karen, we may be safer that way .

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just_me_karen — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 03:18:13 GMT

It'd make politics really fun, Iza 😄

Gee whizz, I hope they do. I wonder who will take his lunch every day... he'll have to eat prison gruel lmao

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catsnknots — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 03:23:08 GMT

When politicians visit other countries and they have their media pack with them they often have "private" media briefings.

since very other media briefing was with all media I don't think there is anything wrong with what happened.

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izabsmiling — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 03:32:47 GMT

@catmad*2013 wrote:
When politicians visit other countries and they have their media pack with them they often have "private" media briefings.

since very other media briefing was with all media I don't think there is anything wrong with what happened.

Catmad, what you think doesn't come into this. This is another Country with different laws and the people in that other Country are the ones who are relevant not you,not me ,not Tony Abbott.

The eyes of the world are on him (and hence on US all ) atm..particularly those Countries from which there was a recent Asylum seeker tragedy which we got involved with when we attempted to make that rescue (as we have done in the past) .

The secrecy is being noted ....especially after Asylum seekers being seen and noted as his main Political 'seller'

What is going on globally should be a concern