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Looks like we've hit another all time low.

the_bob_delusion — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:30:28 GMT

http://www.news.com.au/world/knockout-game-is-killing-innocent-civilians/story-fndir2ev-1226762987768

THE resurgence of a dangerously violent street game that targets innocent bystanders has left people dead and others fearing for their lives.

The aim of the game, known as Knockout, is to approach an unsuspecting passerby and punch them so powerfully they are knocked unconscious. The attacks are violent, deliberate and in some cases, fatal.

Why? Simply "for the fun of it," said one teenage participant.

Wow, I don't get shocked too often by the stupidity of people, but this one takes the cake.

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

icyfroth — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:41:22 GMT

you didn't mention this line:

"Both the New York Police Department and London Metropolitan believe the attacks are evolving into predominantly race-based hate crimes."

Which race against which race is not clarified.

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

lakeland27 — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:46:03 GMT

pretty vague story, linking incidents that may not be linked. the talk is from NY and the video from london.

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lakeland27 — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:51:16 GMT

Why? Simply "for the fun of it," said one teenage participant.

"They think it's funny," said another.

"They just go, boom, when it's the right time and the right place.

"It could be anybody, it could be a mother with her children. It's a macho thing."

is this a cadet journalist or what ? pure invention.

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

icyfroth — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:55:43 GMT

@lakeland27 wrote:
Why? Simply "for the fun of it," said one teenage participant.
"They think it's funny," said another.
"They just go, boom, when it's the right time and the right place.
"It could be anybody, it could be a mother with her children. It's a macho thing."

is this a cadet journalist or what ? pure invention.

"Pure invention" because you don't want to believe it, Lakey?

the quotes are by the participants and relayed by the journalist.

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

lakeland27 — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:02:42 GMT

no , because i dont believe it at all have a closer look. what links the incidents ? video from London, story from the US ?

the lines from the so called teenagers are badly worded, who speaks like that ?

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

the_great_she_elephant — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:06:00 GMT

Most of the accounts I have seen on Google are from radical right wing websites and blogs - the attackers are always said to be black and the the violence is claimed to be racist, specifically targetting either whites or Jews, depending on which version of the story you read. To my mind ths story has all the elements of a particularly nasty and racist urban myth. built on a handful of unrelated incidents.

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

icyfroth — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:19:52 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
Most of the accounts I have seen on Google are from radical right wing websites and blogs - the attackers are always said to be black and the the violence is claimed to be racist, specifically targetting either whites or Jews, depending on which version of the story you read. To my mind ths story has all the elements of a particularly nasty and racist urban myth. built on a handful of unrelated incidents.

so...a conspiracy from the whiteys to make other races look bad, she-el?

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

lakeland27 — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:36:20 GMT

more like a story concocted for a slow news day , something to fire people up in true Newsltd style.

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

lakeland27 — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:39:38 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
Most of the accounts I have seen on Google are from radical right wing websites and blogs - the attackers are always said to be black and the the violence is claimed to be racist, specifically targetting either whites or Jews, depending on which version of the story you read. To my mind ths story has all the elements of a particularly nasty and racist urban myth. built on a handful of unrelated incidents.

a bit like 'whats a good story to get this sentiment across' the sentiment predede's the story.

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

icyfroth — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:40:46 GMT

@lakeland27 wrote:
more like a story concocted for a slow news day , something to fire people up in true Newsltd style.

hmmm...nuh. I don't think so.

You can be selective with your news, wear your blinkers ok, but you can't deny the facts!

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

lakeland27 — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:54:10 GMT

facts ?

Why? Simply "for the fun of it," said one teenage participant.

"They think it's funny," said another.

"They just go, boom, when it's the right time and the right place.

"It could be anybody, it could be a mother with her children. It's a macho thing."

bundled with a video from London, and a series of reports of unrelated assaults in New york Missouri and somewhere else.all uncorroborated i thought you were cynical icy ? you said so

i'm not saying nobody was assaulted, i just find the authors 'hunch' about a new craze a little over the top given the scant material provided.

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

icyfroth — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:09:02 GMT

@lakeland27 wrote:
facts ?
Why? Simply "for the fun of it," said one teenage participant.
"They think it's funny," said another.
"They just go, boom, when it's the right time and the right place.
"It could be anybody, it could be a mother with her children. It's a macho thing."

bundled with a video from London, and a series of reports of unrelated assaults in New york Missouri and somewhere else.all uncorroborated i thought you were cynical icy ? you said so
i'm not saying nobody was assaulted, i just find the authors 'hunch' about a new craze a little over the top given the scant material provided.

try "the scant material" reported.

Oh oops must watch my cynicism!

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

the_great_she_elephant — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:18:47 GMT

Icy, before you make your mind up. get onto Google and have a look at some of the websites reporting these attacks. See what other articles they publish and read the comments of their followers. I don't like to post actual links as most of them are so blatently racist I could be in trouble.

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kennedia_nigricans — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:51:21 GMT

It's all a heap of bulls.

watch this (starts at minute 4:45) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/61454403739/The-Feed

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

polocross58 — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 05:12:29 GMT

Bullying

Cowardice

Usually emboldened via the presence of their bullying, cowardly mates

Are they attacking groups of 186 cms rugy players ?

Are they attacking heavy-weight boxers ?

Don't think so

All the cases I've heard of have involved groups of cowardly thugs targeting the vulnerable

Doesn't help when a sentence of five years is handed down for what is basically premeditated murder

It will stop when the powers-that-be want it to stop -- just as it's currently being encouraged via the media

Increase the penalties by 100 and it will stop virtually overnight

Re: Looks like we've hit another all time low.

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 05:18:30 GMT

I'm with you Bob, nothing much is really shocking these days- but this is like **bleep**!! idiots. idiots that our world could seriously do without.