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    <title>topic Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we? in Community Spirit</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/833793#M235055</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/217513"&gt;@topsidesoul&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know Italians and greeks who arrived in many periods (45/55/65)&amp;nbsp;whose 'husbands did not let them learn English, much less drive a car'.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As I stated Assimilation is a myth.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;But their children are Australian and perfectly assimilated.&amp;nbsp; Those people who came after WW2 and worked long hours in demanding manual jobs had no time to go to school, many of the woman worked in factories owned by their countrymen and with workers speaking the same language.&amp;nbsp; But most of them had a great respect for education and made sure their kids got as educated as possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The people coming here now are just as willing to work as any of the migrants/refugees from the past; it is just not quite as easy to get a job, especially if your English is not very good. Although, I bet you anything that the proportion of migrants speaking some English is much higher now than it ever was in the past. &amp;nbsp; And many of the newcomers are doing just fine and all are very appreciative of any opportunity.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2013 05:54:55 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>***super_nova***</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-11-21T05:54:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815703#M230591</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Do you think that illegal entry into Australia should not be allowed?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How would you address that situation?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:55:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>poddster</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815725#M230593</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Do you mean all those people who fly into Australia and overstay their short term visa's? The ones that work for cash in their relatives businesses?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:00:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815725#M230593</guid>
      <dc:creator>cherry*135</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:00:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815741#M230600</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Try reading the OP again &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Buit yes those people who overstay fall into the category too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So what would you suggest is the way to handle it am*3?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:04:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>poddster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:04:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815745#M230602</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I travel on a British pasport. If I absentmindedly let my reentry visa expire while I was overseas, I guess that would make my return &amp;nbsp;an illegal entry.&lt;img id="smileysurprised" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysurprised" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.png" alt="Smiley Surprised" title="Smiley Surprised" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:05:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>the_great_she_elephant</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:05:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815759#M230606</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yup.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But&amp;nbsp;I doubt that you would be so slack &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:07:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>poddster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:07:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815769#M230610</link>
      <description>I would like to see the govt do a clean out of refugees who spend all their time whining about new refugees. Send them back or throw them on manis, then get a fresh bunch with better, less insular attitudes.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:10:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>just_me_karen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:10:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815793#M230618</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Asylum seekers who arrive in Australia by boat are neither engaging in illegal activity, nor are they immigrants. &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Australian law also permits unauthorised entry into Australia for the purposes of seeking asylum. Asylum seekers do not break any Australian laws simply by arriving on boats or without authorisation. &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Australia has a proud history of boat people and other asylum seekers becoming good citizens.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:20:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cherry*135</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:20:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815797#M230620</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/545382"&gt;@just_me_karen&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I would like to see the govt do a clean out of refugees who spend all their time whining about new refugees. Send them back or throw them on manis, then get a fresh bunch with better, less insular attitudes.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; 'wipe your feet shut the door after yourself'&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:20:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>lakeland27</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:20:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815799#M230621</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Are you referring to those that came through the proper channels, fought and bled for this country, contributed to the country's welfare and are now Australian citizens&amp;nbsp;after spending 7 years in a displaced persons camp?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No doubt that there a lot of long awaiting refugees in camps at the moment who would agree withe me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But you seem to favour the illegal invaders who muscled their way in, Is that a Labor thing?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:22:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>poddster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:22:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815803#M230623</link>
      <description>Get rid of visas and passports.Come and go as you please. Didn't need them before. I think I'd be quite happy in Rio or Buenos Aires or Madrid or Paris or......</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:26:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>spotweldersfriend</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:26:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815809#M230626</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Reverse the debate or try and let us forget that 10 boats have arrived since tonyliar made an election promise he could not keep, kind of like the carbon tax.....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;He look, look what's over there look (points away from boats)....look look!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You should address this&amp;nbsp; post to the party you voted for /thread&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:29:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>topsidesoul</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:29:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815811#M230627</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Try entering those places without a visa and claim asylum spot, see how you get on &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:29:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>poddster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:29:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815815#M230628</link>
      <description>No plodz I was talking about refugees who come here, then whinge about any other refugees who may want to come here. They're the worst, I reckon. Lock em up on manis with a bag of flour.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I like spot's idea, one world (but retain manis island for whingers)</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:30:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>just_me_karen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:30:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815817#M230629</link>
      <description>Was Capt.Cook in the Labor Party?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:30:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815817#M230629</guid>
      <dc:creator>spotweldersfriend</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:30:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815821#M230631</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Do you think that illegal entry into Australia should not be allowed?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You seem to have evaded that question&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:31:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>poddster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:31:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815823#M230632</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/437353"&gt;@poddster&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you referring to those that came through the proper channels, fought and bled for this country, contributed to the country's welfare and are now Australian citizens&amp;nbsp;after spending 7 years in a displaced persons camp?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No doubt that there a lot of long awaiting refugees in camps at the moment who would agree withe me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But you seem to favour the illegal invaders who muscled their way in, Is that a Labor thing?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;a labor thing ? its a labor policy slowing traffic now. i dont agree with labors policy so i think you can leave them out. that observation is mine.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:34:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>lakeland27</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:34:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Let-s-reverse-the-debate-shall-we/m-p/815825#M230633</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/437353"&gt;@poddster&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you referring to those that came through the proper channels, fought and bled for this country, contributed to the country's welfare and are now Australian citizens&amp;nbsp;after spending 7 years in a displaced persons camp?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No doubt that there a lot of long awaiting refugees in camps at the moment who would agree withe me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But you seem to favour the illegal invaders who muscled their way in, Is that a Labor thing?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can you name these refugee camps?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:32:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>topsidesoul</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:32:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Let's reverse the debate shall we?</title>
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      <description>When I said get rid of them podster,I meant worldwide.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:32:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>spotweldersfriend</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:32:11Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Living in the past Spot?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But you are right of course he too was an invader&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:33:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>poddster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-13T08:33:39Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;50 years ago, as long as you were reasonably white, all you had to do is to apply, pay10 pounds you were on a ship for Australia.&amp;nbsp; There were always sailors who jumped a ship in Australian port and just settled.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:36:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>***super_nova***</dc:creator>
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