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Quoted posts and our responsibility.

azureline** — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:00:31 GMT

Apparently the quote feature is not there for us to allow others to know to whom we are replying. (I am unsure exactly why it is there.)

Something to do with what we believe :^O

While (the mods) understand that I believe my post did not violate any of the eBay Board Usage Policies, some posts can be removed due to previously posted content that I might have quoted in my reply.

Each poster is responsible for all material contained within a post, including any quoted material.

a single post removal does not necessarily impact my standing in the community.

Many who receive one of these educational emails, take time to review the eBay policies gain insight from the experience. In most cases, members never receive additional warnings once they are familiar with the community policies.

I think I had forgotten what can happen..... but rather than email anyone, I thought I might ask here.... is the educational email considered to be a violation? as in added to the tally for a possible holiday?

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

darksideofthemoon — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:35:44 GMT

Yep and worth remembering if the quote is likely to be offensive... DON'T quote it or you will be slapped too.

Just refer to it v e r y c a r e f u l l y 🙂

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

azureline** — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:11:07 GMT

The thing is, I don't usually quote offensive posts.... etc. Foolish is offensive?

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debra9275 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:17:07 GMT

I've been told similar about requoting posts being my responsibility Az, but I've never understood how my requote can be removed while the original post stays, beats me!

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jimmy*part4 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:17:56 GMT

I've done some some research into receiving these emails (for educational purposes only of course). I think it depends if you repeatedly violate the same rule in a certain period of time. Maybe...a month or two and how serious the violation was. If you're going to quote a post that's likely to be removed, just delete the offending section.

For expert advice in holidays, I'd ask Joz.:-D

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

*pepe — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:25:03 GMT

I've been told similar about requoting posts being my responsibility Az, but I've never understood how my requote can be removed while the original post stays, beats me!

i actually asked that very question and was told to report such posts and if deemed to be in violation of the rules they will be removed.

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

debra9275 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:33:16 GMT

i actually asked that very question and was told to report such posts and if deemed to be in violation of the rules they will be removed.

Same here pepe, but they never seem to remove them, it's never made any sense to me

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

jimmy*part4 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:36:02 GMT

Same here pepe, but they never seem to remove them, it's never made any sense to me

Could be someone knew the original post was slap worthy, but only wanted to report you? Possibly even the quotee.

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

2106greencat — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:13:35 GMT

Internal dispute - is my all time favourite. If you so much as reply to a post that has been reported/removed, you can then in turn be reported for responding to said post. A little unfair, as what you may consider 'reportable' and what others may consider reportable are two very different things. Not to mention, you have no way of knowing if the post has been reported until it is gone, and then you get that lovely email from the mods. 😞

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

cueperkins — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:31:34 GMT

Blimey...rules, rules, rules......Baaaaaaahhhhhh

Discussion has no rules other than refraining from abuse and/or bigotry.

If Ebay thinks this is how to entice CUSTOMERS to stick around (by imposing punitive account sanctions over their opinion), then it's really no wonder this forum is nowhere near as popular as it once was.

I don't use the report function - because all that does is play into the herding mentality of Political Correctness.....(Apparently anything anybody disagrees with these days is unPC) = more like a weapon than a courtesy. It's so 1984 to have to think twice about what you say, so why do we subscribe to it?

If none of us bother to report others, the moderators will have to actually earn their money. Then at least there can be no question over who's herding whom.

Why not lay off the report button unless a post is absolutely offensive e.g. really bad profanity, bigotry etc. Don't play the game & the rules will change. = Peaceful non cooperation - Ghandi style.

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

the_hawk* — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:27:06 GMT

perhaps a posters union is required:-p

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2106greencat — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:29:22 GMT

Absolutely right Cue -

That's the trouble with the BP system. Anyone who disagrees with someone, or dares to have a different opinion, or has an ongoing beef with said person that has nothing to do with anything discussed at the time, or heaven help if you take part in an ongoing debate - next thing you know GONE! Any tossa can 'report' for the heck of it coz within the bounds of eBays moderating guidelines almost everything is covered.

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

not_an_eloi — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:41:04 GMT

for those of you with bent finger poised, don't make the mistake of thinkin' that i'm "petitionin' against ebay or ebay service", nothin' of the sort.

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

twyngwyn — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:42:55 GMT

Maybe (seeing as this place is run by Americans) we can plead the 1st Amendment 🙂

Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, as with libel, slander, obscenity, sedition (including, for example inciting ethnic hatred), copyright violation, revelation of information that is classified or otherwise.

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izabsmiling — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:44:45 GMT

NAE, maybe add ebay's user agreement and policies.If members need to know and abide by them so too should any third party contracted to do the job of monitoring that on behalf of their client.

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

izabsmiling — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:48:17 GMT

twyn ,sometimes it's not about what is actually said...more who said it.

Kind of interpersonal reporting ?

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cueperkins — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:48:44 GMT

Years back when the Canadians moderated this board, there was quite a bit of discussion over 'appealing unfair account sanctions' originating from this forum, when they were not deserved. (Especially for those of us who use our legitimate ID for posting)

You see, we are Customers, not sheep and it's fair to say we have certain expectations of how we're treated as 'customers'. Trying to slap Aussies into conformity is the first mistake they made. Don't they know our reputation?

As you can see, the appeal process went nowhere = nothing about a 'Fair Go' ever does on this site.

The other thing that was discussed on the forum with the mods at length (remember Shane?) Poor bloke...lol.....was 'serial reporters'. At one point the mods were tracking serial button pushers and multiple ID's to try & stop the never ending trolling. Finally we'd convinced them that they needed to get rid of the trolls instead of enabling their vexatious reports.

At one stage, one hydra had a whole thread about him posted by Shane the Mod, telling everyone that they were NOT to mention that posters name (but which one was the question)....he had so many & of course you can just imagine where that thread went to...

Bottom line though - the mods were present & they took part in the forum. These days they're more like 'big brother'.

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

twyngwyn — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:54:13 GMT

OMG...vigilantes??

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cueperkins — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:58:01 GMT

OMG...vigilantes??

Who?

Re: Quoted posts and our responsibility.

twyngwyn — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:59:46 GMT

I also know nothing 🙂