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Asylum seeker 'groped boys'

catsnknots — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 03:32:55 GMT

Really???

I find this very concerning.... not a good look for those good people that have come here in great need and do follow our laws...

What can we do to help prevent this situation.... these asylum seekers have already arrived.... they are here... how do we educate them and ensure they will follow our laws and our way of life...

An Afghan asylum seeker living in the community while awaiting deportation is facing child sex charges after he allegedly indecently assaulted two boys at a public swimming pool in Seville Grove.

Armadale detectives allege Ali Khan Ibrahimi groped the boys, aged 11 and 14, in a pool at Armadale Aquatic Centre on a Sunday afternoon in January. The boys reported the incident to a lifeguard and centre staff notified police.

Mr Ibrahimi, a father of three young children, arrived on Christmas Island by boat last year. The Immigration Department had refused him a protection visa, despite his fears of persecution by the Taliban, but he had been allowed to live in the community while waiting to be sent home.

He is now in an immigration detention centre and will face court next month on a charge of indecent dealing with a child under 13 and indecent dealing with a child over 13 and under 16.

The allegations come weeks after shadow immigration minister Scott Morrison claimed asylum-seeker boat arrivals were given a "light touch" security assessment before being released into the community, after a Sri Lankan man on a bridging visa allegedly indecently assaulted a Sydney student last month.

Mr Ibrahimi, who spoke to _The West Australian _about his fight to stay in Australia before the allegations emerged, was among 88 asylum seekers rescued by the navy in February last year when their people-smuggling boat split in two.

Like Mr Ibrahimi, most aboard were Hazara, fleeing the persecution of the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The 38-year-old was shot in the stomach and leg and his father and two uncles were killed by the Taliban in 2001 when his family fled their village after refusing orders to join the jihad and fight against their own people.

Mr Ibrahimi spent several years living illegally in Pakistan under what he claims was constant threat to his life, before desperation led him to pay people smugglers.

The Australian Government said in its refusal of Mr Ibrahimi's refugee application in August that it accepted his story but "given the passage of time since the incident occurring and the Taliban . . . not actively targeting Hazara Shi'as (as) they were during their rule in Afghanistan", they could "not be satisfied that he would be targeted upon his return on account of his race and religion".

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lakeland27 — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 03:35:33 GMT

he can go back . where to send all the priests, fathers grandfathers and youth leaders ?

dog whistler.

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donnashuggy — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 03:39:39 GMT

What about all those Aussie drunks in Bali - should we let them back here?

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j*oono — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 03:48:18 GMT

This is poor and it has absolutely nothing to do with him being an asylum seeker and not understanding our way of life. Poor show this time Cat.

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catsnknots — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 04:16:09 GMT

that last news report of the man arrested for assault on the young woman I sat back on and thought no hasty decisions should be made... but this is now the second that we know of...

I think we have a right to now be concerned...

I am asking what do we do???

Joono do you have a suggestion???

And poor show for what?? I have no suggestions...

I don't know what to do, I don't think that everyone that has come her to seek asylum should be locked up... I think that they should be processed quickly and their situation resolved so that they can come into the community and live a normal life..

No matter what anyone thinks about the people that have arrived by boat the fact of the matter is that they are here... we need a solution...

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the_great_she_elephant — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 04:32:18 GMT

Paedophilia is not a cultural phenomenon and paedophiles whatever their race, colour creed or situation don't come with warning labels attached. Unless someone has previous convictions elsewhere there is absolutely no way any kind of assessment can be made of whether or not they pose a risk. At least, as LL said, if someone from overseas is convicted of such a crime they can be deported. The son of someone I know was deported back to New Zealand after being convicted of a sexual offence.

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izabsmiling — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 04:43:14 GMT

they are here... how do we educate them and ensure they will follow our laws and our way of life...

we need a solution

how do we educate everyone in this Country and ENSURE they will follow our Laws ?

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just_me_karen — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:07:01 GMT

OMG! OMG!

THE trial of a man accused of raping his young cousin several times over a period of years has begun in Bundaberg District Court.

The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his alleged victim, is accused of raping the girl in 2001 when she was aged five and he was 14, and again in 2006 when she was 10 and he was 19.

they really should put a fence around that town, or export them or something. We shouldn't have to live in Australia with towns like that 😞

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newstart2380 — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:11:04 GMT

they are here... how do we educate them and ensure they will follow our laws and our way of life...

we need a solution

how do we educate everyone in this Country and ENSURE they will follow our Laws ?

solution - put him on a plane and send him back , he had the 1000's to pay to get here and we will give him a free passage back

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love*today — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:23:06 GMT

Send him back! no need for all the do gooders to sook either, it's clear as to most!

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izabsmiling — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:25:53 GMT

yes NS, I think they may be doing that ?

the bigger question is how do we educate everyone here and ensure they follow the Laws ?

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azureline** — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:26:59 GMT

what was the hold up with sending him back? he should have been gone already.

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love*today — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:27:32 GMT

Eye roll

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j*oono — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:30:45 GMT

Why get rid of him when he is such a good political tool.

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izabsmiling — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:37:11 GMT

what was the hold up with sending him back? he should have been gone already.

Az, I think there is to be a Court case next month ?

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azureline** — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:41:56 GMT

Az, I think there is to be a Court case next month ?

Iza he was living in the community waiting for deportation... why was he still here?

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catsnknots — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:46:51 GMT

Az... All asylum seekers get to use out judicial system to argue their deportation.... I guess he was waiting for all of that to happen???

I don't know why I even bother to try and have a conversation on this forum anymore... some of you just go for a personal attack...

If you want to discuss what to do with offenders born and bred in this country then go to the top of the page and start a new topic....

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just_me_karen — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:50:23 GMT

Wait. So it's ok to tarnish some groups with the same brush, but not others?

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azureline** — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:52:45 GMT

Thanks cat.... the article made no mention of it..... I looked for more but found nothing.

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donnashuggy — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:17:39 GMT

If you want to discuss what to do with offenders born and bred in this country then go to the top of the page and start a new topic....

I apologise for my input, it just didn't seem right to single out this guy when asylum seekers in general are good and perhaps better citizens in some respects.