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CO2 - why does every little bit count

***super_nova*** — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 21:32:10 GMT

It really is very simple. There is CO2 in the atmosphere but the amount is normally static; there is an equilibrium. But since the start of industrial revolution it has been steadily increasing. Why does as little as few percent make difference?

Imagine you have a large tub almost full of water. There is a tap running 100 litres per day into it, and on the bottom is a drain that takes away 100litres. Therefore the level stays the same. If you increase the water coming in by only 1%, it will add 101 litre per day, if the output stays the same, the water will slowly start rising, and one day it will overflow.

Re: CO2 - why does every little bit count

silverfaun — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 21:41:30 GMT

not another thread about climate change is it.

Re: CO2 - why does every little bit count

***super_nova*** — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 04:29:56 GMT

just a simple explanation why every little bit counts for people who still do not get it 🙂

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lakeland27 — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 04:32:31 GMT

@***super_nova*** wrote:
just a simple explanation why every little bit counts for people who still do not get it 🙂

some will never 'get it' as they wear the conservative blindfold of convenience (it dates from the cone of silence era )

Re: CO2 - why does every little bit count

poddster — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 04:47:43 GMT

First thing that has to be established without any doubt is that CO2 causes an increase in temperature, that has not been proven. The next thing that has to be proven that a minuscule variation in temperature is causing a disruption to the highly volatile and variable changes in the Earth's Climate patterns.

Neither of those things have been proven.

Reliance on computer modeling as proof is about as reliable as building a skyscraper on a foundation of quicksand

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ashjoma — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 04:50:08 GMT

this is really simple too

If you want to be worried about something, and I mean really, really, really worried, try Fukushima, and the ongoing issues there.

Just because our media ignores this unfolding tragedy, does not mean it has gone away.

This WILL be significant for mankind, very very significant.

Research the dead zones that are now appearing across the Pacific and off the coast of California.

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lakeland27 — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 05:20:30 GMT

actually for people not in the region of the reactor carbon pollution is a bigger problem. surprising , but correct.

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siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 06:10:37 GMT

@***super_nova*** wrote:
It really is very simple. There is CO2 in the atmosphere but the amount is normally static; there is an equilibrium. But since the start of industrial revolution it has been steadily increasing. Why does as little as few percent make difference?

Imagine you have a large tub almost full of water. There is a tap running 100 litres per day into it, and on the bottom is a drain that takes away 100litres. Therefore the level stays the same. If you increase the water coming in by only 1%, it will add 101 litre per day, if the output stays the same, the water will slowly start rising, and one day it will overflow.

The amount is normally static?........lol......That is completely incorrect......

Carbon dioxide levels have always changed.......it's cyclic........*sigh*.......,and natural......

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lakeland27 — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 06:20:24 GMT

@poddster wrote:
First thing that has to be established without any doubt is that CO2 causes an increase in temperature, that has not been proven. The next thing that has to be proven that a minuscule variation in temperature is causing a disruption to the highly volatile and variable changes in the Earth's Climate patterns.
Neither of those things have been proven.

Reliance on computer modeling as proof is about as reliable as building a skyscraper on a foundation of quicksand

confirmed , established ,proven ..

its you that needs to prove the best and brightest wrong, good luck with that

Re: CO2 - why does every little bit count

poddster — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 06:28:05 GMT

The passage of time will do that LL.

Don't worry there will always be a crisis threatening mankind and the planet that will be created to replace past threats to us all that the powers that be will attempt to ram down the sheepies throats to fleece them of their hard earned cash

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donnashuggy — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 07:29:55 GMT

I equate it with diet, eat a little bit more every day and you will gain a little bit more.

Some people are just too dumb to understand the concept.

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siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:01:07 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
I equate it with diet, eat a little bit more every day and you will gain a little bit more.

Some people are just too dumb to understand the concept.

You need to prove that the climate system is highly sensitive to minuscule increases to co2.........

Observations say no. Flawed computer models made predictions based on high sensitivity......they were very wrong.

Mother Earth might have a higher metabolism than you.....and your diet......and yes, some are just too dumb......lol.

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joz*garage — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:07:16 GMT

i guess some can't grasp the simple concept of - for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

too

*sighs*

Re: CO2 - why does every little bit count

***super_nova*** — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:10:18 GMT

@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

You need to prove that the climate system is highly sensitive to minuscule increases to co2.........

Observations say no. Flawed computer models made predictions based on high sensitivity......they were very wrong.

Mother Earth might have a higher metabolism than you.....and your diet......and yes, some are just too dumb......lol.

Whose observations? Jones, Bolt &co? 97% of scientist are just too dumb according to genius you - it is just too funny

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lakeland27 — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:12:34 GMT

funny or sad i wonder. how many similarly afflicted folks are out there ..

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siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:16:48 GMT

@***super_nova*** wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
You need to prove that the climate system is highly sensitive to minuscule increases to co2.........

Observations say no. Flawed computer models made predictions based on high sensitivity......they were very wrong.

Mother Earth might have a higher metabolism than you.....and your diet......and yes, some are just too dumb......lol.

Whose observations? Jones, Bolt &co? 97% of scientist are just too dumb according to genius you - it is just too funny

You believe co2 levels are static..................... ...............

Re: CO2 - why does every little bit count

poddster — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:40:25 GMT

The "Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Diversity" fanatics must also be very fond of fish food as well, they swallow red herrings but the bucket full.

The computer predicted it so it must be so.

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lakeland27 — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 09:15:27 GMT

dead lemmings . seized bearings and a cult based on the rantings of octogenarian paleontologists and inbred non-lords . fawning devotees of discredited drongos all ..

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spotweldersfriend — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 09:43:01 GMT

The sceptics are losing the battle.More and more programmes are being put in place to combat global warming.Europe,the USA and China notably are moving forward
It may take some years yet before its all geared up but it will happen.End of argument and lol.

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poddster — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 09:51:36 GMT

More like they are climing aboard the gravy train