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Hunger strike at Christmas Island

donnashuggy — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:16:03 GMT

Reports of them sewing their lips together

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bluecat*dancing — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:23:53 GMT

A desperate act by desperate people. Asylum seekers are not criminals, yet, they are treated as such. If they must be held in detention centres then they need to be treated with dignity and respect. Shame on this, and former governments, for their lack of humanity.

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izabsmiling — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:39:47 GMT

shame on everyone who made these desperate people scapegoats be it for political reasons or any reason.

Those who rejoiced and blamed Rudd and Gillard and said that they had blood on their hands when lives were lost, those who shouted out loud messages like multiculturalism is ruining this once great democratic country of ours (do we go back hundreds of years?) , that our economy is in dire straights and these people are to blame,those who grabbed any headline they could to instill fear and hatred and promote a stereotypical Asylum seeker/ terrorist connection.

All those who encouraged a shift in attitude and a false emergency ...which became an election issue and indeed winner

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izabsmiling — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:43:00 GMT

those people John Howard said we didn't want in this Country ...didn't throw their children overboard either .

Did this country apologise for that ?

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monman12 — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:49:44 GMT

Is this the DY political history channel?

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nero_bolt — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:59:14 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:

Reports of them sewing their lips together

Proof of this please

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polksaladallie — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:08:39 GMT

Since you are unable.......

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seeker-charged-after-alleged-threat-on-flight-to-christmas-island-20140114-30rms.html

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lakeland27 — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:59:41 GMT

@nero_wulf wrote:

@donnashuggy wrote:

Reports of them sewing their lips together

Proof of this please

tis all going wrong as predicted. if you oppress people this is what you get.

they do seem to be hiding a lot.

Re: Hunger strike at Christmas Island

donnashuggy — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:28:40 GMT

Family members are increasingly being separated from one another in detention

Broaden your horizons nero and read more widely 🙂

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/14/lips-sewn-together-asylum-seekers?CMP=twt_gu

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catsnknots — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:36:44 GMT

What about the guy from Lebanon that was being transferred to another detention center... apparently he was so distraught that he said he had a bomb strapped to his body. Caused great distress to all those on board the plane and he had to be tied up and the federal police were forced to storm the plane when it landed.

Is Lebanon a place that is so dangerous to live? Or is he an economic refugee?

I read a very good article a few years ago about how refugees that claiming asylum but were being denied decided to sew their lips together to garner support. It has now become a regular occurrence. The majority of people that did this were actually not true asylum seekers.

And before you throw your arms in the air and say that this man must be for detention centers that is actually not true. He was a psychologist working for a detention center in Melbourne and he is against locking people up. He says we need to process them faster and either let them into the community faster or deport them immediately if they do not pass. he says the ability for people to use our court system to delay their deportation stopped the fast flow of processing.

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donnashuggy — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:44:15 GMT

Caused great distress to all those on board the plane and he had to be tied up

He is not the only person causing distress, our Government is causing enormous distress to those detained.

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catsnknots — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:54:33 GMT

How would you feel if you were escaping a war torn country and then end up on a plane that a man threatened to blow it up?

I would be terrified.

I am all for people protesting and demanding better treatment (although the people on Naru really have to blame themselves after they burnt down their accommodation and they have to stay in tents) but to make a bomb threat on a plane is totally unacceptable.

..... I also think we need faster processing. They are here now and need to be dealt with.

But I hope that that man does not get approved. He is not the sort of person I want to live in this country. If he does not get what he wants he thinks it is ok to go to extremist behaviour.

And also DH it was the Labor governemnt that set up this mess... it is up to the LNP to fix it.

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*mrgrizz* — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:59:34 GMT

@izabsmiling wrote:
those people John Howard said we didn't want in this Country ...didn't throw their children overboard either .
Did this country apologise for that ?

why would we apologise for that?

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*mrgrizz* — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:03:24 GMT

@izabsmiling wrote:
shame on everyone who made these desperate people scapegoats be it for political reasons or any reason.
Those who rejoiced and blamed Rudd and Gillard and said that they had blood on their hands when lives were lost, those who shouted out loud messages like multiculturalism is ruining this once great democratic country of ours (do we go back hundreds of years?) , that our economy is in dire straights and these people are to blame,those who grabbed any headline they could to instill fear and hatred and promote a stereotypical Asylum seeker/ terrorist connection.

All those who encouraged a shift in attitude and a false emergency ...which became an election issue and indeed winner

we can always scrap your much loved NDIS and take more refugees

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donnashuggy — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:05:25 GMT

Feel free to call me Donna catmad:)

Unfortunately this Government isn't fixing anything, they are ruining our relationship with Indonesia, let's hope they can fix it 🙂

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nero_bolt — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:11:30 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:

Unfortunately this Government isn't fixing anything, they are ruining our relationship with Indonesia, let's hope they can fix it 🙂

Another unfounded rumour bordering on an out an out LIE.. Or can you offer some actual proof of this......

If anything this govt has a far stonger relationship with Indonesia than Megaphone diplomacy labor did as like the Indonesia govt they dont run to the press every 10 minutes like LOOK AT MEEEEEEE Labor did.....

I do suggest that you as you are so concerned with Indonesia and their people and lifestyle etc that a move there should be considered by you..... You may be far happier living the life there and that way you wont have to worry about bad Australia

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donnashuggy — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:15:52 GMT

You can't be serious nero, the government was not very diplomatic over the phone tapping, they don't seem to grasp the concept that boats being returned is not acceptable or agreed to, the list is longer but I only write small sentences 🙂

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monman12 — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:32:02 GMT

DY: "the list is longer but I only write small sentences"

Add these to your list:

Pacific Solution scrapped by Rudd

Christmas Island Centre, regular operating capacity is 1094 people, with a 'contingency capacity' of 2724. June 2013 2960 "irregular maritime arrivals" being held.

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izabsmiling — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:49:05 GMT

@*mrgrizz* wrote:
@izabsmiling wrote:
those people John Howard said we didn't want in this Country ...didn't throw their children overboard either .
Did this country apologise for that ?
why would we apologise for that?

because it was a LIE with the intent to demonise innocent people ....and help a Government

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izabsmiling — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 04:16:31 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
Reports of them sewing their lips together

and this just in

Immigration detention centre closures set to save Government $88.8m

By Andrew Greene, staff

Updated 13 minutes ago

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-14/morrison-to-announce-closure-of-four-mainland-detention-centres/5199160