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Is the navy lying to asylum seekers?

donnashuggy — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:59:14 GMT

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seekers-say-they-were-tricked-by-navy-20140116-30xtz.html

If anything, you have to feel for the families.

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***super_nova*** — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:37:04 GMT

I am sure that the asylum seekers do not allow their boats to be turned without struggle; after all they have paid all they had and often had to borrow to get on that boat; it is one chance of a life of reasonable quality for their kids, or one chance to be reunited with their family. Why would anybody think they would turn back or be towed back voluntarily, unless of course they are not being told they are going back.

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silverfaun — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:09:13 GMT

OFGS, another thread taking the side of failed illegal immigrants????? when will you stop this attack on our country. What is your agenda here please I would like to know.

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catsnknots — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:20:32 GMT

Pakistan and Bangladesh asylum seekers??? They are in fact economic refugees. They do not get my sympathy other than to feel for them that they wasted what little money they probably did have while being promised a new life of milk and honey by the smugglers.

I think the people smugglers should be jailed for life. They take money to trade people. Back in the time of when the Jews were running in fear the people smugglers back then did not charge them, they did it out of the goodness of thier hearts.

One passenger took a piece of wood and prised open the hole that was already in the hull. Others rocked the boat.

If they are going to put our men and women at risk I also have no sympathy. If they end up in the water our people have to go back in and save them. Shame on these economic refugees.

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donnashuggy — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:40:54 GMT

How can the navy mistakenly enter indonesian waters on several occasions? Have they been caught out?

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catsnknots — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:51:39 GMT

I don't care if they do enter their waters... people break the law when they pay a person to take them to a country for economic reasons... Indonesia does nothing to stop them so why should we just take them...

Indonesia gets Billions in assistance from our country. It is about time they work to solve the problem... BUT we know for a fact that they never will because people in high places get payoffs from the smugglers. It is a well documented fact and I think they need to be held accountable.

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donnashuggy — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:05:54 GMT

I don't care if they do enter their waters...

That's fine, the Indonesians might though, do you think their GPS was broken? 🙂

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izabsmiling — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:26:50 GMT

@catsnknots wrote:
I don't care if they do enter their waters... people break the law when they pay a person to take them to a country for economic reasons... Indonesia does nothing to stop them so why should we just take them...

Indonesia gets Billions in assistance from our country. It is about time they work to solve the problem... BUT we know for a fact that they never will because people in high places get payoffs from the smugglers. It is a well documented fact and I think they need to be held accountable.

Indonesia isn't signed up to the UN Refugee Convention is it ?

We are

When it is put so simply ...aren't we paying people to take Asylum seekers to a Country for economic reasons ourselves ?

Re: Is the navy lying to asylum seekers?

silverfaun — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:42:24 GMT

No we are not. What our very responsible government is doing is protecting our sovereign rights to stop illegal immigration. That is what's happening & no amount of armchair compassion or criticism of our government or our wonderful country is going to change that.

I have asked many time on here why there is such a swelling of the left on here now, when they kept their mouths closed for the 6 years Labor presided over this catastrophe. We saw people smashed to pieces on rocks live on TV. but now all on here except for the commonsense ones are hyperventilating over this disaster that has seen so many killed and finally something is being done about it.

It beggars belief imo

Re: Is the navy lying to asylum seekers?

izabsmiling — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:45:09 GMT

I'm sorry you didn't read all of the posts from members who posted in response to the Asylum seeker boat number/Asylum seeker mania .

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izabsmiling — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:49:05 GMT

why the heck do some deem it necessary for our Government to have the same kind of support (like that of Pickering for example) they had while in opposition ?

It doesn't make them look strong ...it looks childish

Re: Is the navy lying to asylum seekers?

silverfaun — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 00:08:53 GMT

@izabsmiling wrote:
why the heck do some deem it necessary for our Government to have the same kind of support (like that of Pickering for example) they had while in opposition ?
It doesn't make them look strong ...it looks childish

huh!!!!

Re: Is the navy lying to asylum seekers?

monman12 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 00:56:08 GMT

Labor's immigration spokesman, Richard Marles, and former immigration minister Tony Burke suggested Labor is behind the recent drop in boat arrivals, not the newly elected Coalition government.

Well the Libs must be doing something correct if tha ALP are claiming "credit", or if the reduction "is" due to the ALP efforts (don't mention Rudd's sinking of the Pacific Solution) what parts will be blamed upon the Libs?

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donnashuggy — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:03:06 GMT

Which side are you on john?

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silverfaun — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:04:57 GMT

The dismantling of Howard's border protection policy was quoted as "the best thing I ever did in politics". Hope he's happy enjoying the golden handshake from the taxpayers.

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silverfaun — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:10:31 GMT

Which side are you on john?

See this is what I mean, it's not about "sides" it's about our country & it's sovereignty. The numerous posts egging on supporters & lambasting opponents, bewildering comments is all this type of thing is designed for.

The real story behind all these posts is not about immigrants accessing our country illegally but which side you are on.

Phew, glad that's sorted

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**meep** — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:43:43 GMT

They returned to their former houses in the West Java town of Cisarua late on Wednesday night.

???

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ca04 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:49:48 GMT

someone must have forgotten to anchor the boundary fence.:-)

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*mrgrizz* — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:51:44 GMT

i didn't realize there was a law saying you can't lie

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polksaladallie — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 03:19:56 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
How can the navy mistakenly enter indonesian waters on several occasions? Have they been caught out?

Yes

Scott Morrison apologises after border protection vessels entered into Indonesian territorial waters

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-17/morrison-apologises-after-indonesian-territorial-waters-breached/5204832