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Cyclist and 1Meter rule

rabbitearbandicoot — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:40:03 GMT

I just saw Current Affair where they showed a car turn left into two cyclist. The car had his left indicator on - looked like he was travelling at very slow speed - the cyclist overtook the car on the car's left and he turned left into them. Was it his fault or the cyclist who overtook on the car's left?

They were talking about making a '0ne meter' law. I cannot see how this will work on many roads. To keep one meter away while overtaking a cyclist or group of cyclist would put you over the centre line in many cases - risking a head on collision??? It would be OK when there is a separate lane but SO MANY roads do not have enough room for it.

Opinions on this rule?? How would it work? Opinions on the Current Affair accident?

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

catsnknots — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:44:31 GMT

We have a one meter rule in QLD now.. I think it is great.

The driver should have seen the cyclist and watched and waited for the cyclist to undertake. Well that is I do anyway.

I also have a couple that cycle on my main road into work. It is 100kmph and there is no bike way on that road so they just ride along the side best they can.

If I can't overtake them because there is on coming traffic I slow down. It just takes a bit of planning, watch the road, see what is coming and be prepared.

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

love*today — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:46:53 GMT

Oh for g sake.......it's really easy to pass a cyclist with the one metre rule.

And if it's risky then **bleep**ing slow down and wait until it's safe to pass the cyclist

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

catsnknots — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:53:39 GMT

Rabbit... it does need a lot from local governments to invest more in bike paths and better roads. If you have the rule you do need to think about areas that do not have any space for that overtake to happen

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

rabbitearbandicoot — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:55:12 GMT

@love*today wrote:
Oh for g sake.......it's really easy to pass a cyclist with the one metre rule.

And if it's risky then **bleep**ing slow down and wait until it's safe to pass the cyclist

Let's see - cyclist 10-15km v car 80km - Yes that should be easy - don't worry about the 6 car pileup with people running into the back of you - I'm glad I asked.

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

love*today — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:57:49 GMT

Lmao.....well like has been said it's been in qld and it works....it's not hard
Hahahahahaha

15ks? Slow rider....was it a child that you passed within a metre because you were scared of cars behind you?

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

the_hawk* — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:00:51 GMT

@catsnknots wrote:
We have a one meter rule in QLD now.. I think it is great.

The driver should have seen the cyclist and watched and waited for the cyclist to undertake. Well that is I do anyway.

I also have a couple that cycle on my main road into work. It is 100kmph and there is no bike way on that road so they just ride along the side best they can.

If I can't overtake them because there is on coming traffic I slow down. It just takes a bit of planning, watch the road, see what is coming and be prepared.

the same rules apply to cyclists as cars and unless a car has a RH indicator it is an offence to pass on the left side,

and as for the idiot cyclists riding on poads with a 100kmh speed limit, if they are blocking the road and a car is coming and no way of stopping guess which one I will be hitting. yep always pick the object that will have least impact

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

love*today — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:04:50 GMT

Cyclists can use roads you know.

They cannot use a motorway and I've never seen one on one.......what's with car drivers that think they own the roads?!???

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

catsnknots — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:06:47 GMT

@the_hawk* wrote:
the same rules apply to cyclists as cars and unless a car has a RH indicator it is an offence to pass on the left side,

But if there is a cyclist on the left hand side of the road (where they usually are) and you decide you want to turn left you have to wait for that cyclist to pass even though it is "undertaking" as the bike can't just go around you can it?

I am just thinking about what I do....up here we don't really have that much of a problem because not a lot of people ride.... I pull up behind the cyclist and slow down and then turn left.... not cut the rider off.... if you know a rider is there and you cut it off isn't that your fault?

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

colic2bullsgirlore — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:07:07 GMT

Anyone see the footage on a current affair that ran behind the story?

For mine the two cyclists came from well behind the vehicle they hit and passed the vehicle on the wrong side rather than being lega it's just easier for the cyclists to keep their speed on the inside if there is no bike lane rather than, braking, pulling into the traffic and passing a car that is parking or entering a driveway on the correct right hand side as all other vehicles are required.

Think about where does a cyclist position themselves when they are going to turn right across oncoming traffic?

needs to be a big sticker on the back of all vehicles especially for cyclists.

(you see these on the backs of trucks trucks they are aimed at cars that overtake trucks in the inside lane)

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Undertaker ##### Overtaker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

catsnknots — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:10:15 GMT

Is there a link to the footage as I did not see it.

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

rabbitearbandicoot — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 00:53:13 GMT

@love*today wrote:
Lmao.....well like has been said it's been in qld and it works....it's not hard
Hahahahahaha

15ks? Slow rider....was it a child that you passed within a metre because you were scared of cars behind you?

I'm in Qld. I didn't pass anyone - I am just asking about the program.

what's with the 'lmao' and the 'Hahahahahaha'?

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

colic2bullsgirlore — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:17:47 GMT

dunno I would google it but my bandwdth on satellite at the moment is about as wide as this full stop .

However I agree with the 1 metre rule in principle as long as it is RECIPROCAL ie

CYCLISTS MUST STAY 1 METRE AWAY FROM VEHICLES AND NOT UNDERTAKE IN BUILT UP AREAS

OR NEAR DRIVEWAYS UNLESS THE LANE IS VACANT

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

love*today — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:20:35 GMT

I know one intersection I have trouble with.
To turn right at the lights I can't as our roads are **bleep**, I can go straight or the council has given me the option to turn right from the furthest left point....forcing me to cut infront of cars travelling forward.
I will and do stop in the middle of the road to the left of right turning cars and turn left as carefully as I can.

Our roads in this country are disgraceful for shared use, footpaths are dangerous for pedestrians as we travel much faster than them and bike paths if we are lucky will cover only a small portion of what we need to travel.
Education is needed badly for our roads, I will not give up my enjoyment of bicycling because some lazy car drivers are road hogs and cannot slow down or show any respect for others!

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

rabbitearbandicoot — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:21:58 GMT

I'll restate -

The car had his left indicator on - WHY? to show everyone he was turning LEFT - and yet the cyclists chose to undertake the car anyway.

=the cyclists passed the car on the car's LEFT = ILLEGAL - if it had been a motorcyclist passing on the left they would have been booked, so if the cyclists wish to be treated equally on the roads, they should follow the same rules as everyone else.

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

love*today — Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:41:59 GMT

.ummmm your the one scared of a "6" car pile up because you might have to give a cyclist some space for safety reasons!

You do know a car can easily KILL a cyclist who is legally using a shared road?

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

love*today — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:25:29 GMT

No if you turn into a cyclist then you are in the wrong.......do you know how to give way?
Cyclists cannot travel in the middle of the road, yeah?! So we
Legally have to travel to the left of our lane, you need to pay attention when driving and give way.

Same when you pull over and open your doors....give way to cyclists!

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

rabbitearbandicoot — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:26:17 GMT

@love*today wrote:
Mental problems......ummmm your the one scared of a "6" car pile up because you might have to give a cyclist some space for safety reasons!

You do know a car can easily KILL a cyclist who is legally using a shared road?

as long as the cyclist IS LEGALLY USING the road - see my post above - the cyclist should be goverened by the same road rules as everyone else.

No-one is asking you to give up you bicycle - just use it LEGALLY like the rest of us have to.

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

rabbitearbandicoot — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:29:49 GMT

come to think of it, I saw a program the other day about cyclist in the city breaking red-light rules, pedestrian crossing rules and many more and they complain when they get knoecked a-over-t.

By the way, my BIL rides professionally in Europe and UK.

Re: Cyclist and 1Meter rule

love*today — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:30:17 GMT

I do and I have lost count how many cars have nearly taken me out because they do not want to give way or slow down!

Round abouts are another hazard (good for parents with young children riding to know) drivers just don't want to give way? I have no idea why?? It's a few seconds wait, just like giving way to a car?!