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Australias 28 Prime Ministers

lind9650 — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:06:54 GMT

I was looking for just one, but got the information of all our Prime Ministers.

http://primeministers.naa.gov.au/primeministers/

Here one can read all about them and what they did or did not do for the country. Very interesting for just general information. It will keep me busy for a few days.

Erica

Re: Australias 28 Prime Ministers

lurker17260 — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:15:13 GMT

One of the benefits of living in Canberra (although we don't now) is that all those names are in your face every day.
I think my kids could probably recite Australian PM names just by naming where their mates lived. LOL

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boris1gary — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:16:04 GMT

sorry Erica, just couldn't help it - lovely portrait of our most recent PM.

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lind9650 — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:21:35 GMT

Hi, boris, is that Pinoccio? Wait until his nose grows.

Erica

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spotweldersfriend — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:23:25 GMT

Noddy.He's no John Curtain.

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*crikey*mate* — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:30:49 GMT

@boris1gary wrote:
sorry Erica, just couldn't help it - lovely portrait of our most recent PM.

recent?

who is it?

Re: Australias 28 Prime Ministers

amber-eyed-girl — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:55:07 GMT

Although, the fact one can jest and insult the current P.M. without consequence, shows we are living in a country worth living in 🙂

Free speech.

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boris1gary — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:17:28 GMT

@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
Although, the fact one can jest and insult the current P.M. without consequence, shows we are living in a country worth living in 🙂

Free speech.

Free speech, in MHO is a myth. All countries are worth living in, alway's better than being dead, don't you think.

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amber-eyed-girl — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:28:24 GMT

Try that picture of their current leader in North Korea, and you would be praying for death.

free speech enables a diversity of opinion without threat of death 🙂

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boris1gary — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:33:02 GMT

@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
Try that picture of their current leader in North Korea, and you would be praying for death.

free speech enables a diversity of opinion without threat of death 🙂

don't want to appear argumentative but have you been to the DPRK, I have. The big difference there is the people don't want to make fun of the their Party Leader.

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amber-eyed-girl — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:40:19 GMT

I have actually (But not for long, I admit)...and lived in other countries under Communist rule, and those which had just left it.

I found it quite an interesting experience, the differences between them, and to here 🙂

They were (the others) Poland (years), the Ukraine (few months)

I have also lived in a few European countries, totally capitalist 🙂

(And it's OK you didn't sound argumentative, it was a valid thought 😉 )

and a few fly-by-night visits to other places, but not for more than a day or two.

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boris1gary — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 22:52:38 GMT

@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
I have actually (But not for long, I admit)...and lived in other countries under Communist rule, and those which had just left it.

I found it quite an interesting experience, the differences between them, and to here 🙂

They were (the others) Poland (years), the Ukraine (few months)

I have also lived in a few European countries, totally capitalist 🙂

(And it's OK you didn't sound argumentative, it was a valid thought 😉 )

and a few fly-by-night visits to other places, but not for more than a day or two.

amber, i don't know why but i though you were younger (no reason). When you were in the DPRK were you there by invitation or as a tourist. There were tourists there when i was there but in the main French, Chinese and a handful of Japanese.

I don't know anyone who has visited as a tourist, did you catch the train or fly, if you went by train did you leave from Beijing or Vladivostok. If you flew Russia or Beijing.

The train from Beijing is an adventure in itself, 27 hours for me the first time. Did you get upset when you had to hand over your passport and mobile - the first trip for me, one of our delegation had a dummy spit at the border when we had to hand over our mobiles and passports, it was funny because he should have known about it and the reasons. In the end i told him to either get back on the train or call a lawyer because he kept banging on about "international law" hahahaha.

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carls*world — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:02:27 GMT

@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
Although, the fact one can jest and insult the current P.M. without consequence, shows we are living in a country worth living in 🙂

Free speech.

Depending on the definition of "consequences". Though nothing serious as may happen in other places, you'd still have had shreds torn off you and howled down for doing the same here 12 months ago.

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icyfroth — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:13:29 GMT

@boris1gary wrote:
@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
Try that picture of their current leader in North Korea, and you would be praying for death.

free speech enables a diversity of opinion without threat of death 🙂
don't want to appear argumentative but have you been to the DPRK, I have. The big difference there is the people don't want to make fun of the their Party Leader.

Because they value their life?

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boris1gary — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:22:25 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:
@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
Try that picture of their current leader in North Korea, and you would be praying for death.

free speech enables a diversity of opinion without threat of death 🙂
don't want to appear argumentative but have you been to the DPRK, I have. The big difference there is the people don't want to make fun of the their Party Leader.
Because they value their life?

Why froth, don't you?

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icyfroth — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:35:05 GMT

Of course, gary. As, no doubt, you do yours. But neither of our lives are in danger by speaking out against or lampooning our country's leaders.

I see wer'e back to the more formal form of address

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icyfroth — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:49:50 GMT

@spotweldersfriend wrote:
Noddy.He's no John Curtain.

Showbag Shorten ain't no Ben Chifley either.

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icyfroth — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:50:34 GMT

That's an excellent link, thanks Erica.

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boris1gary — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:50:49 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:
@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
Try that picture of their current leader in North Korea, and you would be praying for death.

free speech enables a diversity of opinion without threat of death 🙂
don't want to appear argumentative but have you been to the DPRK, I have. The big difference there is the people don't want to make fun of the their Party Leader.
Because they value their life?

Froth, if you spend just a short time learning about the history of Korea, life under Japanese occupation and the near total devastation by the US led war - Pyongyang was all but totally destroyed and they lost the larger part of their male population - then that knowledge would give you a little understanding into the very successful Socialist state they have achieved - all on their own.

Just for one thing, their hospitals and health system makes our's look near primitive.

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icyfroth — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 00:17:49 GMT

@boris1gary wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:
@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
Try that picture of their current leader in North Korea, and you would be praying for death.

free speech enables a diversity of opinion without threat of death 🙂
don't want to appear argumentative but have you been to the DPRK, I have. The big difference there is the people don't want to make fun of the their Party Leader.
Because they value their life?
Froth, if you spend just a short time learning about the history of Korea, life under Japanese occupation and the near total devastation by the US led war - Pyongyang was all but totally destroyed and they lost the larger part of their male population - then that knowledge would give you a little understanding into the very successful Socialist state they have achieved - all on their own.
Just for one thing, their hospitals and health system makes our's look near primitive.

No doubt, gary, and I probably won't go into the history of Nth Korea too much. I do actually admire them for facing up to the US, as they are, though.

However, after the recent reports of young Jong Il Kim executing his uncle and his family for "plotting to overthrow the communist regime.", and his former lover for watching pornography and making nude pictures with her friends, I'm wondering how the ppl lampooning and calling him names would go, d'you think?

Would they dare?

Or is all that just US propaganda?