topic Re: Charlotte Dawson's Legacy in Community Spirit

Charlotte Dawson's Legacy

izabsmiling — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:19:15 GMT

I hope that in the future if not today open discussion on Depression and Mental Illness can carry on...

Thoughts and best wishes to all who loved and cared for and about you .

“Charlotte was a beautiful person physically, but she also had a beautiful soul. She was kind, loving and generous,” Vicky said.

“She was a kind, loving and generous person and worked tirelessly for the causes she believed in.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/family-flies-in-from-new-zealand-to-lay-charlotte-dawson-to-rest/story-fni0cx12-1226835635771

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icyfroth — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:22:51 GMT

Personally I have every admiration for Ms Dawson.

She had a great ride. Youth, Beauty, Charisma. Smarts, Drive, Personality. Lifestyle, Celebrity, Money. Admiration, Friendship. Fun.

She knew it couldn't go on indefinitley and she took herself out of the race.

That took real courage and determination and I totally admire her for that.

I think her life should be celebrated instead of all this moaning and wailing about her means of escape.

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bluecat*dancing — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:23:08 GMT

A sensitive topic that always goes off on another tangent but does need to be openly discussed but with mindfulness to those whose experiences have left them emotionally vulnerable.

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izabsmiling — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:23:37 GMT

it was .removal is an insult to Charlotte's aim in raising awareness .It says...don't talk about depression and mental illness.Ho\w damaging is that message ?

I started this thread...it is not mine.It belongs to CS .I will not take it away from other posters or from Charlotte .

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darksideofthemoon — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:23:55 GMT

Blue cat, it certainly help if one knows what one is talking about

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izabsmiling — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:24:14 GMT

@bluecat*dancing wrote:

A sensitive topic that always goes off on another tangent but does need to be openly discussed but with mindfulness to those whose experiences have left them emotionally vulnerable.

Bluecat, no one knows who they may be.

and how is anyone to know how to be mindful,what to do and say and understand if those who have personal experience as a sufferer (many experience the effects of mental illness as they care and associate with a sufferer and or have them in their Community) ....it is important that it be spoken about and that those who suffer appreciate the importance of other's understanding and appreciate that they want to learn and care.

Without that and without those people ...... those who need help won't get it.

When people kick out at those who want to and could help them.....the other people may eventually stop trying.

A Doctor doesn't suffer from every illness he diagnoses ....he/she doesn't need to..they learn about them

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darksideofthemoon — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:25:01 GMT

Right on windrake

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freakiness — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:25:18 GMT

The point they are trying to make Iza, is that an RIP thread should be for RIPs and messages of condolence and not the rest. If you want the rest start a thread about the general topic. A RIP thread should contain short messages and memories to or about the person.

Separate the conversations.

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izabsmiling — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:25:41 GMT

Freaki, maybe the mods could post and let us all know how many and which posters said more than RIP ?

I know that I wasn't the only one .

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luna-2304 — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:26:08 GMT

“Hello, everyone. This thread is getting a little off-topic and interpersonal disputes are begininning to take place. Could we please bring the discussion back to Charlotte Dawson's Legacy. Thanks!”

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izabsmiling — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:26:31 GMT

Thankyou, I respect that it is you and the other mods who are the ones with the authority to give instructions to posters here.

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bluecat*dancing — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:26:48 GMT

A topic concerning mental illness needs to be handled with sensitivity.

Those who have experienced first hand mental illness have a different understanding than those who haven't.

Those who have been, or are, care givers to those who suffer from mental illness have a different understanding than those who haven't.

RIP Charlotte Dawson.

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2106greencat — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:27:11 GMT

I have to admit that I used to think 'suicides' was the cowards way out - No thought to who you leave behind.- Selfish and thoughtless....how dare you leave behind family and friends who love you....

That was before I was diagnosed with depression over ten years ago.

I fight every day to find a reason to keep going....

For me it is my kid's - in my rational times I know how devistated they would be, how much I would miss out on the future them - the weddings, the grandkids.... just them.

BUT - It is true, at the lowest point you really feel like you are of no worth to anyone, and that whomever you do leave behind is better off without you.

This is not something I asked to suffer from, I don't even know how it happenned, but I do know the way I make it through is telling myself - today is important to someone so I will see it through.

I am fortunate, family and friends have stood by me, left me alone (when I needed it) , and been there no matter what.

To beat it we need a support force that is not judgmental but understanding (not to mention forgiving,patient) - and sometimes others who have not suffered the affliction can not know just how debilitating this disease can be.

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izabsmiling — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:27:35 GMT

absolutely....though I think sensitivity can be shown by and for everyone .To expect it and not give it to others.....not right imo.

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joz*garage — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:27:54 GMT

Charlotte Dawson ? i had to google

& i dont know her personally, should i care?

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serendipityricho — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:28:10 GMT

Joe-its hard when a young person dies.

But im like you and lots of others.

Never heard of this person................Richo.

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catsnknots — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:28:29 GMT

@izabsmiling wrote:

it was .removal is an insult to Charlotte's aim in raising awareness .It says...don't talk about depression and mental illness.Ho\w damaging is that message ?

I started this thread...it is not mine.It belongs to CS .I will not take it away from other posters or from Charlotte .

The reason I asked for it to be removed was that I felt you were trying to start an argument with half the people posting on it.... it was distracting to the topic and was going to a very dark place...

I have been totally open and honest about mental illness, so had many of the people posting their respects to the wonderful lady that she was.

And the thread was my thread... it was my choice to remove it, not anyone elese on this forum.

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joz*garage — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:28:56 GMT

oh so this is an off shoot from another thread? figures

RIP C.Dawson

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2106greencat — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:29:24 GMT

I agree Cat - it went way off topic - your choice to pull it was warranted.

But I do hope this thread or another like it can get some followers, there are many sufferers out there, and here we can remain 'semi' anonymous.

I think the stigma comes from the description 'mental' disease, but it shouldn't.

If you break your arm you go get it set, if you are ill you go to the doctor, WHY is it when it is a 'mental' thing it seems so forbidden, so taboo - not to be mentioned?

It is sad really, many just want to vent or talk......speak to others who have it or (god willing) beaten it, and it wouldn't it be nice if they could do so without judgement -

if you have never suffered it, or have not seen the effects, you can not begin to know (nor do you have the right) to desparage anyone who suffers.

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underbat — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:29:42 GMT

This thread is becoming rather heated, and intepersonal.

Please bring this thread on such a sensitive subject back to a less hostile state.