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Gillard praises Abbott In US

icyfroth — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:04:20 GMT

Former Australian prime minister Julia Gillard has praised the Abbott government for maintaining funding for a program designed to educate children in the world's poorest countries.

Gillard, speaking in Washington DC on Monday at the Brookings Institution, said she was pleased the change of government in Australia did not lead to a cut in the financial support for the Global Partnership for Education (GPE).

Gillard will take up the role of chair of the GPE's board next month.

"I am pleased that the allocations we made in government have been sustained by the current government even though they have made changes to aid arrangements in the aid budget overall," Gillard told an audience at a Brookings event titled New Ideas to Scale Up and Finance Global Education.

"So, it's good to see the GPE seems to have persuaded both sides of politics that it is a really important investment."

Gillard, as chair of GPE, will be responsible for leading fundraising efforts to provide education to 57 million out-of-school children worldwide.

The GPE, based in Washington DC, is the only multilateral partnership devoted to getting all children in the world's poorest countries into school for a quality education.

Established in 2002, the GPE is comprised of close to 60 developing countries, donor governments, international organisations, the private sector, teachers and civil society/non-governmental organisations.

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That's nice

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

polksaladallie — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:31:43 GMT

That's how intelligent people behave, no surprises here.

What a contrast with what Abbott did in Switzerland

Tony Abbott uses global stage to take a swipe at Labor over financial crisis

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

silverfaun — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:54:39 GMT

Sometimes I wonder about Abbott. He should have scrapped this $300 million borrowed money largesse from Gillard.

We will pay for this come budget time then all the entitlements mindset will go into overdrive whinging about their right to government handouts.

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

debra9275 — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:57:53 GMT

that's very diplomatic of her, quite a contrast to Abbott slinging domestic mud at the opposition at every opportunity

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lurker17260 — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:00:03 GMT

Sometimes I wonder about Abbott

Oh praise be, that it was only sometimes

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

freakiness — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:00:03 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
that's very diplomatic of her, quite a contrast to Abbott slinging domestic mud at the opposition at every opportunity

Yes, it demonstrates who has class and who doesn't.

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

icyfroth — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:08:56 GMT

@silverfaun wrote:
Sometimes I wonder about Abbott. He should have scrapped this $300 million borrowed money largesse from Gillard.

We will pay for this come budget time then all the entitlements mindset will go into overdrive whinging about their right to government handouts.

Must agree with you there, Faun. It's all very well to throw money overseas to make yourself look benevolent, but you should look to your own country's needs first. Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes.

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boris1gary — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:11:24 GMT

@silverfaun wrote:
Sometimes I wonder about Abbott. He should have scrapped this $300 million borrowed money largesse from Gillard.

We will pay for this come budget time then all the entitlements mindset will go into overdrive whinging about their right to government handouts.

Don't think the "entitlement mindset" has to worry, welfare for the rich is quite safe, the Prime Minister for Unemployment has assured the rich that there "age of entitlement" will carry on regardless.

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

cherry*135 — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:20:42 GMT

Icy wrote: Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes.

I would like to know more about that. Which countries are those? What level students are they outstripping..primary, secondary, tertiary?

How do you know they are outstripping our own? Do they make the students in the poor countries sit Naplan tests so they can compare them with Aust kids?

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

silverfaun — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:26:48 GMT

What about our own indiginous children? don't they deserve a first class education & support to get it. $300 million would go a long way to help them.

But as I said previously, this is borrowed money, working families will have to pay it back with interest to the detriment of the education of our own children.

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

icyfroth — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:33:31 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
Icy wrote: Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes.

I would like to know more about that. Which countries are those? What level students are they outstripping..primary, secondary, tertiary?

How do you know they are outstripping our own? Do they make the students in the poor countries sit Naplan tests so they can compare them with Aust kids?

This topic has been covered before:

"South Korea is one of many nations that trounced Australia this week in a series of major international school tests, including the the Progress in International Reading Literacy Study (PIRLS) and the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS).

South Korea, like Singapore, Hong Kong and Finland, gained top spots in every subject.

Our own performance, by contrast, was described as a ''wake-up call'', a ''disappointment'' and a ''catastrophe.''

Australia languished between 12th and 25th in maths and science. In reading, we ranked 27th out of 48 countries, behind every other English-speaking country that participated in the studies, including the US, England and Ireland. About a quarter of Australian students did not meet the minimal acceptable standard of proficiency across both tests.

These rankings were significantly worse than those of the other major international exams Australia participates in, such as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which tests the performance of 15-year-olds in a range of subjects.

But even the most recent PISA scores, in 2009, showed declining literacy and flatlining maths and science results."

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Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

freakiness — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:39:57 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
Icy wrote: Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes.

I would like to know more about that. Which countries are those? What level students are they outstripping..primary, secondary, tertiary?

How do you know they are outstripping our own? Do they make the students in the poor countries sit Naplan tests so they can compare them with Aust kids?
This topic has been covered before:

"South Korea is one of many nations that trounced Australia this week in a series of major international school tests, including the the Progress in International Reading Literacy Study (PIRLS) and the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS).
South Korea, like Singapore, Hong Kong and Finland, gained top spots in every subject.
Our own performance, by contrast, was described as a ''wake-up call'', a ''disappointment'' and a ''catastrophe.''
Australia languished between 12th and 25th in maths and science. In reading, we ranked 27th out of 48 countries, behind every other English-speaking country that participated in the studies, including the US, England and Ireland. About a quarter of Australian students did not meet the minimal acceptable standard of proficiency across both tests.
These rankings were significantly worse than those of the other major international exams Australia participates in, such as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which tests the performance of 15-year-olds in a range of subjects.
But even the most recent PISA scores, in 2009, showed declining literacy and flatlining maths and science results."

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Do we send money for education to South Korea, Singapore, Finland and Hong Kong?

The previous govt had a plan of action to deal with the educational issues within Australia. It's yet to be seen how much those programs will be gutted.

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

lakeland27 — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:42:05 GMT

@silverfaun wrote:
What about our own indiginous children? don't they deserve a first class education & support to get it. $300 million would go a long way to help them.

But as I said previously, this is borrowed money, working families will have to pay it back with interest to the detriment of the education of our own children.

where have you been living fgs , this government and its state franchisee's have stripped a billion out of the education system. i think mr pyne ought to be on your radar .

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

icyfroth — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:04:19 GMT

@freakiness wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
Icy wrote: Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes.

I would like to know more about that. Which countries are those? What level students are they outstripping..primary, secondary, tertiary?

How do you know they are outstripping our own? Do they make the students in the poor countries sit Naplan tests so they can compare them with Aust kids?
This topic has been covered before:

"South Korea is one of many nations that trounced Australia this week in a series of major international school tests, including the the Progress in International Reading Literacy Study (PIRLS) and the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS).
South Korea, like Singapore, Hong Kong and Finland, gained top spots in every subject.
Our own performance, by contrast, was described as a ''wake-up call'', a ''disappointment'' and a ''catastrophe.''
Australia languished between 12th and 25th in maths and science. In reading, we ranked 27th out of 48 countries, behind every other English-speaking country that participated in the studies, including the US, England and Ireland. About a quarter of Australian students did not meet the minimal acceptable standard of proficiency across both tests.
These rankings were significantly worse than those of the other major international exams Australia participates in, such as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which tests the performance of 15-year-olds in a range of subjects.
But even the most recent PISA scores, in 2009, showed declining literacy and flatlining maths and science results."

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Do we send money for education to South Korea, Singapore, Finland and Hong Kong?

The point is not where wer'e sending to, the point is that it's being sent when our own students are obviously lagging.

The previous govt had a plan of action to deal with the educational issues within Australia. It's yet to be seen how much those programs will be gutted.

Yes, agree.

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the_hawk* — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:07:06 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
that's very diplomatic of her, quite a contrast to Abbott slinging domestic mud at the opposition at every opportunity

yes it is and shows tony for what he really is

I dont dare say what I really feel about him as it would be heavily moderated

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

freakiness — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:09:18 GMT

By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

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silverfaun — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:13:16 GMT

@freakiness wrote:
By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

whaatt. lol

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the_hawk* — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:16:11 GMT

@freakiness wrote:
By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

the way we are heading it looks like an investment in the future when we need handouts to exist

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

icyfroth — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:20:18 GMT

@freakiness wrote:
By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

oh right. Lol.

Re: Gillard praises Abbott In US

freakiness — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:35:28 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@freakiness wrote:
By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

oh right. Lol.

I take it you can't see any benefit in educating the young so they are better equipped to manage in the future?